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Post#1081 » by corwin » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:37 pm

ckchen wrote:I would still also think that there is a possibility of a 1 for 4 type trade for Dalembert for a bunch of smaller salaried players to fill out the roster - maybe to Dallas when they realize the center market is completely dried up with the Chandler/Okafor trade happening. This would help relieve the salary pressures a little if they can get a package of smaller, expiring deals, like Buckner, Humphries, Shawne Williams, & Jawai - while at the same time opening up PT for Speights and filling out those roster holes.


Been reading the Dallas Board? I think you've hit upon something here that makes real sense. Cuban is not going to waste Dirk's prime years. They've added Marion, re-signed Kidd, signed Gooden & Ross, kept Terry & Howard, and traded for end of the roster junk & expirings. Dampier is their center & the team has an option on his contract after this year. He could be traded even up for Sam or the junk you've mentioned would work money=wise. Philly also has the roster space which may also be a reason that Stefansky hasn't signed any FAs. Interesting speculation. I've read on the Dallas Board that Cuban likes Dalembert. I just don't see them sitting still. He could of course make a play for one of the Clipper bigs but I think Dalembert might be a real consideration.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1082 » by sixersinsider » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:41 pm

Hey peaple,Im Just a regular old sixers fan.Maybe the buisness man from Wharton(MIT STAND UP)is willing to to let his product crash and burn in hope of a top 5 lottery pick. The 2010 draft class is alleged to be one of the best drafts in recent years.A mid level sighning of a mediocre point guard...sessions..felton...tinsley....watson...would probally turn us into a 40 win team.As presently constructed I think we win 33 games.I believe the offense will run through Brand causing him to have all star numbers once again.If their was ever a year to tank this would be the year.(John Wall Stand up)I thought the series with orlando was priceless.I enjoyed the slight maturation of Dala lou and Thad.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1083 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:09 am

Lou had a terrible series against Orlando
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1084 » by tmoore » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:45 am

Sixers_76ers wrote:tom
i heard that ED will sign a SWING MAN at some point during this offsean,so is it any possible to get CARNEY back?


I think they have interest in Carney, but would like him for the fourth-year minimum -- Carney wants more.
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Post#1085 » by radrmd216 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:54 am

Sixersinsider, i think the Sixers didn't rebuild properly and now they will not be able to get a top 5 pick. People are saying the Sixers are cheap and to too focused on money, but what about when they traded Iverson for Miller so that they could stay competitive and hopefully sell tickets.

Teams like Portland, Oklahoma City, Sacramento and Memphis have had many horrible seasons and were able to add several high lottery picks to their teams. They never traded for a crutch, never had unrealistic expectations, and were never impatient.

The Sixers need Brand to play like an all star to get his trade value back or even to justify his signing. They need the young players to develop and play well. They also need to get a top lottery pick. Their needs are very contradictory make the prospects for winning a championship very low.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1086 » by tmoore » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:55 am

Don't see why Mavs would want to do a deal for Dalembert.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1087 » by ryst » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:43 am

that fool stefanski cant even trade andre miller so you want him to trade dalembert???

come on...stefanski said many time that dalembert has the worst contract in NBA history and he is untradeable, no one would take him , he has the pluge

stefanski is worse then the the idiot running the clippers...
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Post#1088 » by radrmd216 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:55 am

Ryst do you think Ed is horrible in this situation or would he be horrible in any situation. He has had very little resources and has very little ability to make moves due to the roster and the current financial environment. Do you think Ed could make good moves if the Sixers sucked for several years and got at least three high lottery picks and had contracts no longer than three years. A lot of GM's that are viewed as very good right now were put into great opportunities with abundent resources very low expectations for team success.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1089 » by sixers hoops » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:35 am

radrmd216 wrote:He has had very little resources and has very little ability to make moves due to the roster and the current financial environment.


I do agree that he acquired a mediocre roster; however, he did come in with the cap space waiting for him and he signed Brand and Iguodala to contracts totaling 25 MIL per season. Ultimately, he had a reasonable amount of cap room to mold the team and he chose these two guys.
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Post#1090 » by ryst » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:36 am

i think stefanski is horrible at decision making and is just a bad GM all together.
he has no plan , he doesnt think about the future, how can he extend Mo Cheeks and fire him 3 months later? that is unbeliveable, one of the stupid decisions in sixers history and he gets a pass for that.

and even if he lucks out and get a superstar by drafting someone in the top 3 that doesnt mean he is any good.
just like as it doesnt mean the cavs GM is any good for drafting LBJ or the bulls GM for drafting Rose.
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Post#1091 » by radrmd216 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:55 am

I don't know what else he could have done with the cap space. If it was up to me i would have saved it and see what could happen at the deadline, if nothing did, i would jst sign a free agent this offseason.

Ryst, what do you think of pritchard (Trailblazers) or Presti (Thunder). Their tems were horrible for many years and got several very high lottery picks. Other than Pritchard trading a lottery pick for Roy, each GM's selections were pretty easy choices. Do you think they are very good GM's are just lucky guys who were put in great situatins. In the NBA luck seems to be a huge part of making a great GM.
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Post#1092 » by ryst » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:28 am

i think Pritchard is decent , he cleaned house in portland and made some good trades , but he is over rated, the trade for Webster was horrible and and everyone forget that, he could have had Deron Williams , who came after a great collge career and choose to draft and un proven high schooler , thats the difference right now between a good team and a championship in portland

Presty is good because he understand how the leauge works,who got money to spend and who needs to get rid of money(which lead him to make good deals with the suns and spurs)
the pick of durnat was no brainer but he made the right gamble with westbrook, i still its needs to be see if he can build a team that can contend for the playoffs and not just feature talneted young guys.


both of them are much better trade dealers then stefanski and both are nore secure and not scared to make trades.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1093 » by radrmd216 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:42 am

I'm disappointed and angry too, but its more about what the Sixers did when trading Iverson. Pretty much every team rebuilds when they trade their superstar. The Sixers for some reason thought it was good to stay competitive. They could have gotten some top lottery picks and saved cap space for big trade or a free agent signing this year. Millsap was overpaid like almost every other NBA player, but the Sixers could have been the ones to overpay. I don't know if he is better than a healthy brand, but hes young. The problem with the Sixers isn't really Ed Stefanski, its Comcast that wanted to try to stay competitive.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1094 » by freshie2 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:00 am

I don't think the Sixers anticipated having as much success following the AI trade as they did...they were pretty bad when they traded Iverson, and had a nice run later that season which put them at the high end of the lottery. Remember that they got Thad out of that draft, and there's not a lock they would have been able to draft Oden or Durant even if they had an awful season.

It is very easy to second guess from our positions, but I don't have a huge issue with the team trying to build without completely throwing in the towel for a season or two. It doesn't assure you anything other than a better chance a the lottery.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1095 » by corwin » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:06 pm

tmoore wrote:Don't see why Mavs would want to do a deal for Dalembert.

I can't see why not. Dampier is their only legitimate center. They know this & already tried to sign Gortat. Dampier is 34 & showing some signs of Rigor Artis Gilmore Syndrome. Hollins is a 3rd stringer, even if re-signed. Unlike Philly with Brand, they are trying to make the most of Dirk's prime years. They've got 16 or 17 players signed & would probably send us crap that matched money-wise. The only downside for them is Dalembert's salary next year. Cuban hasn't shown much concern about the LT yet.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1096 » by sixerfan1976 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:27 pm

ok this is what this thread has become.

Tom,
Do we like this place?

Tom says: We like that player but will only offer the min. That player wants more.
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Post#1097 » by 76ers76ers » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:07 pm

Thats why I don't even bother to ask questions any more because you(SF) and Tom already explained from the beginning that their plan was not to spend money (MLE) and sign for one year. Therefore nothing special is expected this offseason.
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1098 » by dond » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:33 pm

ryst wrote:i think stefanski is horrible at decision making and is just a bad GM all together.
he has no plan , he doesnt think about the future, how can he extend Mo Cheeks and fire him 3 months later? that is unbeliveable, one of the stupid decisions in sixers history and he gets a pass for that.

and even if he lucks out and get a superstar by drafting someone in the top 3 that doesnt mean he is any good.
just like as it doesnt mean the cavs GM is any good for drafting LBJ or the bulls GM for drafting Rose.


Well, it is nice of you to define your general attitude about GMs so clearly. Your position is that any decision that turns out badly while they are in charge makes they a "horrible" GM and any decision that turns out good doesn't mean he is any good.

Now, we know who YOU are !
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1099 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:51 pm

Dond's Super Optomism is back :). Is that because the record is 0-0 and anything can happen?
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Re: Tom Moore 2.0 

Post#1100 » by steveb21 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:54 pm

Thats why I don't even bother to ask questions any more because you(SF) and Tom already explained from the beginning that their plan was not to spend money (MLE) and sign for one year. Therefore nothing special is expected this offseason.


I like that nothing special is expected from them this season. Nothing special was expected from them two years ago when they surprised us with a playoff run. I think they'll do it again. This team has too much talent to be in the lottery.

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