Sanchez for Alderson

[dukuduku]

If Sanchez can bat near .300, that is big! Mgt. is surprised with the position they are in, and feel they have to make some moves to make the playoffs. It would be pretty awesome if the Giants made the playoffs, especially since everyone predicted a sub .500 season (or thereabouts), and I'm glad they are doing something. I don't like giving up a good prospect (and no doubt, Alderson is a very good prospect), but I also think that our farm system has been a little overhyped to divert our attention from the major league team.... At least this was the case before we started to challenge for the wild card.

[SactownHrtBrks8]

I like the deal. we still have Bumgarner and Posey those were the only two prospects i did not want to move at all. Sanchez is an all-star so i like it

[bill curley II]

"I doubt Sanchez is going to be that much better than Uribe."

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Sanchez is way better than Uribe just off his range and glove alone.

Sanchez has average 2nd baseman range and is coming off a knee injury at age 31. Uribe is younger and has a higher career rf/9 at 2b.

[ALPHA17]

"I doubt Sanchez is going to be that much better than Uribe."

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Sanchez is way better than Uribe just off his range and glove alone.

Sanchez has average 2nd baseman range and is coming off a knee injury at age 31. Uribe is younger and has a higher career rf/9 at 2b.

Wrong Uribe is only 1yr and some change younger that Freddy. I hope you have a better argument than that. I would take the 3 time All-Star over Uribe.

Sure, we could have gotten a better player from the deal. And yes, Sabes is one of the worst GM's in the league. We've got Sanchez. An All-Star 2B. Definitely an upgrade. We gave up a potential No. 4 starter on our team for Sanchez. (Lincecum, Cain, MadBum) I like our chances taking the Wild Card and maybe. Just maybe. Make a run for first in the NL West.

[bill curley II]

Wrong Uribe is only 1yr and some change younger that Freddy. Wrong Uribe is only 1yr and some change younger that Freddy.

Hence, Uribe is younger... Did I say he's 10 years younger or seomthing? And which one's the one coming off an injury?

I hope you have a better argument than that. I would take the 3 time All-Star over Uribe.

Did I say I think Uribe is better than Sanchez? I said he's not that much better. And both his batting and fielding statistics show that he isn't. You'll get maybe about 20 points of OPS more and some nice barehanded plays that'll make Sportscenter with Sanchez, and that's about it. Better than Uribe? Yes, but is it going to make or break the WC? Probably not.

[bill curley II]

Well, at least we longer have the worst trade so far this year.

[GswStorm3]

"I doubt Sanchez is going to be that much better than Uribe."

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Sanchez is way better than Uribe just off his range and glove alone.

Sanchez has average 2nd baseman range and is coming off a knee injury at age 31. Uribe is younger and has a higher career rf/9 at 2b.

Wrong Uribe is only 1yr and some change younger that Freddy. I hope you have a better argument than that. I would take the 3 time All-Star over Uribe.

Sure, we could have gotten a better player from the deal. And yes, Sabes is one of the worst GM's in the league. We've got Sanchez. An All-Star 2B. Definitely an upgrade. We gave up a potential No. 4 starter on our team for Sanchez. (Lincecum, Cain, MadBum) I like our chances taking the Wild Card and maybe. Just maybe. Make a run for first in the NL West.

Fourth starter? Try fifth starter.

Our 1-4 starting rotation the next 3-4 years is going to be Lincecum/Bumgarner/Cain/Zito(4 yrs left on contract).

Filling in that fifth spot will be a cakewalk.

[GswStorm3]

"I doubt Sanchez is going to be that much better than Uribe."

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Sanchez is way better than Uribe just off his range and glove alone.

Sanchez has average 2nd baseman range and is coming off a knee injury at age 31. Uribe is younger and has a higher career rf/9 at 2b.

Average range, have you seen this guy play defense? Here's a glimpse of his range.
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/medi ... id=5223669
That's a base hit with Uribe at second.

The Giants now don't have to worry about Second base issues for the next 4 years. Sanchez will be signed to an extension for sure.

[bill curley II]

Wow... one highlight to prove your point? And nice arbitrary point of "that's a base hit with Uribe at second."

Uribe's career rf/9 at 2b vs league avg: 5.28 / 4.97
Sanchez's career rf/9 at 2b vs league avg: 4.96 / 4.88

Now granted, Uribe hasn't played 2b a lot in his career, but his #'s are similarly effectively at SS as well. Plus, those #'s don't take into account that Pittsburgh pitchers have had a pretty significantly higher GO/FO ratio than White Sox pitchers the last couple years.

I don't really believe in RF all that much, but seeing how those #'s are better for Uribe, it's hard to ignore and blindly say Sanchez is better, b/c let's face it, anyone saying that on this board is probably just repeating something they've heard or read, or basing it off of a few games they've seen over the years on the White Sox and Pirates.

Also, you really want Sanchez at 2b until age 35? Are you Brian Sabean?

[GswStorm3]

You're the only guy I've read on any forum that actually vouches for Jaun Uribe over Freddy Sanchez, it's hilarious and pathetic at the same time. Even more funny you're defending the same guy that cost J.Sanchez his perfect game on a routine groundball Uribe fumbled.

Uribe is a utility player, Sanchez is a three time all star that's won a batting title while Uribe hasn't even hit over .300 once in his entire career. Sanchez is someone you can bat in the 2 hole in front of Pablo because he hits for average, he doesn't strike out a lot and he leads all second basemen in the national league with 28 doubles. Sanchez will give more Rbi opportunities to Pablo and Sanchez will get a lot more pitches to hit batting in front of Pablo.

BTW Yes I want Sanchez at 2b until he's 35, because Sanchez is a young 31 because he only played a total 41 games his first three years in the league with Boston and Pit. You would know that if you did you're homework.

[bill curley II]

You're the only guy I've read on any forum that actually vouches for Jaun Uribe over Freddy Sanchez.

I doubt Sanchez is going to be that much better than Uribe.

Did I say I think Uribe is better than Sanchez? I said he's not that much better.

You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

BTW Yes I want Sanchez at 2b until he's 35, because Sanchez is a young 31 because he only played a total 41 games his first three years in the league with Boston and Pit. You would know that if you did you're homework.

at me not doing any hw. So he wasn't playing baseball before then? And you know why he only played in 41 games his first 3 years? Maybe b/c he played about 200 games in the minors during that time, or maybe b/c he was out most of 04 with an ankle injury. But I guess you're floating on clouds while you play minor league baseball or in winter ball right? Or that he hasn't also had knee and shoulder problems before in his career?

[GswStorm3]

Anytime you say Sanchez is not going to be that much better than Uribe. You're basically vouching for Uribe when he's not even in Sanchez league in terms of overall skills and baseball intelligence. You can put Sanchez at the top of your lineup and get great production. Uribe on the other hand is a 8th hitter at best.

I've lost count how times that idiot Uribe has forgotten how to freeze at second base when a groundball or a line drive is hit to SS. That's basic fundamentals on base running you learn in high school ball and Uribe has screwed that up two or three times this season.