3 Way with Celtics/Pacers

blueandgold · Post #1 » by **blueandgold** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 2:06 am

Indiana wants to do a S&T with Daniels and the Celtics but need a 3rd party to participate. Would the NETS be interested and what are the offers/needs??

Preludepunk27 · Post #2 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 2:21 pm

Get Najera and Sean Williams off our roster and we want an expiring contract in return.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #3 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 8:07 pm

You know the celtics can't match an offer over 5.3 mill

Preludepunk27 · Post #4 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 8:36 pm

I thought they could but don't want to because it'd hit the luxury tax?

Personally, taking on Baby would eat into our 2010 salary cap. I don't mind him, but I'm not high enough on him to do that. I just want an expiring for Najera and Swat.

deviljets7 · Post #5 » by **deviljets7** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 9:23 pm

blueandgold wrote:Indiana wants to do a S&T with Daniels and the Celtics but need a 3rd party to participate. Would the NETS be interested and what are the offers/needs??

The Nets interest would be getting Najera off of the books. Ownership might disagree, but the consensus here is that we'd give up at least 1 of the group of Boone, Sean Williams, Jarvis Hayes, Keyon Dooling and Rafer Alston to do it. NJ also has a $3.75 million TPE, but I don't know how viable it is for ownership to add more salary.

Indy's issue is that they don't want to take on salary in a Daniels s&t correct? Based on the stuff I've read, let me throw this deal out there:

BOS Trades: J.R. Giddens, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine
BOS Gets: Marquis Daniels (s&t starting at $4 mil), Sean Williams and Eduardo Najera

IND Trades: Marquis Daniels
IND Gets: J.R. Giddens

NJ Trades: Sean Williams and Eduardo Najera
NJ Gets: Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine

Boston gets Daniels and adds some much needed depth up front with the uncertain status of Big Baby and Powe.

Indiana gets a youngster in Giddens who Bird seems to like, plus a $3 million TPE.

New Jersey takes on about $1.3 million in 2009/10, but gets out of Najera's 10/11 money.

crazykidd2k6 · Post #6 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 9:33 pm

Preludepunk27 your right i missread it sorry

deviljets7 · Post #7 » by **deviljets7** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 9:43 pm

Here's another potential version that could work. Before I get grilled by others on this board, I don't endorse this deal, but I think it's disturbingly realistic, since Memphis has done it like 5 times in the last two years. The Nets pocket $500K (minus a possible savings on an Allen buyout) and Ratner really does need a new Bentley.

BOS Trades: Tony Allen, J.R. Giddens and $3 million cash.
BOS Gets: Marquis Daniels

IND Trades: Marquis Daniels
IND Gets: J.R. Giddens

NJ Trades: TPE
NJ Gets: Tony Allen (cut) and $3 million cash

Preludepunk27 · Post #8 » by **Preludepunk27** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 6:27 am

deviljets7 wrote:
blueandgold wrote:Indiana wants to do a S&T with Daniels and the Celtics but need a 3rd party to participate. Would the NETS be interested and what are the offers/needs??

The Nets interest would be getting Najera off of the books. Ownership might disagree, but the consensus here is that we'd give up at least 1 of the group of Boone, Sean Williams, Jarvis Hayes, Keyon Dooling and Rafer Alston to do it. NJ also has a $3.75 million TPE, but I don't know how viable it is for ownership to add more salary.

Indy's issue is that they don't want to take on salary in a Daniels s&t correct? Based on the stuff I've read, let me throw this deal out there:

BOS Trades: J.R. Giddens, Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine
BOS Gets: Marquis Daniels (s&t starting at $4 mil), Sean Williams and Eduardo Najera

IND Trades: Marquis Daniels
IND Gets: J.R. Giddens

NJ Trades: Sean Williams and Eduardo Najera
NJ Gets: Tony Allen and Brian Scalabrine

Boston gets Daniels and adds some much needed depth up front with the uncertain status of Big Baby and Powe.

Indiana gets a youngster in Giddens who Bird seems to like, plus a $3 million TPE.

New Jersey takes on about $1.3 million in 2009/10, but gets out of Najera's 10/11 money.

I'd be fine with this. Honestly, if this worked without Tony Allen, I'd be fine with it too. I don't want him taking time from our young guys.

deviljets7 · Post #9 » by **deviljets7** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 7:23 am

Allen's only in there for cap reasons. I think he's a pretty solid player (fwiw he consistently beats Hayes in PER), but he's not especially needed here.

Maybe you can flip Allen elsewhere. Dallas would seem like a pretty good fit, maybe Allen for Shawne Williams and cash?

vincecarter4pres · Post #10 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 5:34 pm

I think you have officially taken the top spot of trade guy on these boards.

I like any of those deals.

Post #11 » by **sully00** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 10:56 pm

Someone get this guy Rod, Danny, and Larry's phone numbers.