Chris Wallace is not our GM appreciation thread.

Scalamental · Post #1 » by **Scalamental** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 4:12 pm

Woof huh? It's hard to say who is a worse (current) GM when teams like Orleans and the Clippers are making no plans to get better themselves, but damn, glad he's out of town.

Scalamental · Post #2 » by **Scalamental** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 4:20 pm

I should include this as my reason of appreciation.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... -priority/

BigHands · Post #3 » by **BigHands** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 4:24 pm

I saw that too and laughed.

It was a great day when he departed.

Zin5 · Post #4 » by **Zin5** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 5:27 pm

Did you miss the trade where NO moved Chandler for Okafor? I don't consider NO cheap, I just consider them trying to be more cost efficient seeing as they have one of the highest payrolls and only a few really solid players.

But yeah, the Grizzlies are the new Clippers, granted the Clippers are still the Clippers, but they've gotten a little better about it.

Captain_Caveman · Post #5 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 6:36 pm

Yeah, no doubt that it was his idea to lay off half his staff due to financial concerns.

I bet he picked Forte over Parker despite Red's strong protests, too.

peachbucket · Post #6 » by **peachbucket** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 8:49 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:Yeah, no doubt that it was his idea to lay off half his staff due to financial concerns.

I bet he picked Forte over Parker despite Red's strong protests, too.

Wow, a Chris Wallace defender....do you know for a fact that he wanted Parker? What about Kedrick and Mercer? Was that Patino? Regardless, the Thabeet blunder will no doubt cost him his job....this will be his last sting as an NBA gm.

threrf23 · Post #7 » by **threrf23** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 9:16 pm

Why single Chris Wallace out? Why no "Rick Pitino is not associated with our organization" thread?

Andrew McCeltic · Post #8 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 9:31 pm

Pitino was a false messiah. Wallace his apostle. In Ainge we trust.

peachbucket · Post #9 » by **peachbucket** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 9:36 pm

threrf23 wrote:Why single Chris Wallace out? Why no "Rick Pitino is not associated with our organization" thread?

Because he is an awful GM and he no longer runs the team we love. :clap:

Dirty Water · Post #10 » by **Dirty Water** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 9:57 pm

ML Carr < *

Captain_Caveman · Post #11 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Aug 2, 2009 10:14 pm

I do know that Forte was Red's pick. Gaston felt bad about how Pitino had stripped Red's Celtics Presidency away from him and he gave Red a pick in that draft to make nice. Red was a DC guy who was tight with Forte's HS coach, and he is the one who pushed for Forte. Wallace wanted Parker.

I see Wallace as having 3 main faults as a GM:

1. He didn't do his homework on the Baker trade. Inexcusable on a trade that big.

2. He is a glorified scout who doesn't have the juice to make his own decisions, the infighting ability to deal with the politics or the savvy to make good transactions. Gaston walked into his office and told him to dump cap so he could stay out of the lux tax while looking for a buyer for the team. Hence the Joe Johnson trade. Heisley does the same and Wallace ends up doing Jerry West a solid with Gasol to thank Logo for rescuing his career. Overruled by Pitino when he said to draft Marion instead of trading for Vitaly, and again when he brought in Ben Wallace (twice).

3. He places too high a premium on athletic talent and not enough on what's in a player's head. Not saying he needs Ainge's Brain Doctor, but look at the guys he whiffed on: Baker, Kedrick, Banks, Green, Moiso. If you look at pretty much all of the guys he screwed up with, they were athletic specimens who turned out to be mental midgets. Go on and find me a Celtics fan who wasn't tripping over Kedrick or Green's athleticism in their rookie years. You are lying if you say you weren't into those guys early on.

Anyhow, the guy was good at finding talent off of the scrap heap (Bowen, Big Ben, Wallace, Erick Strickland, Adrian Griffin, even Blount), and was good at recognizing foreign talent early, but he lacks the political skills to be an above average GM.

Still has taken all sorts of bullets for other people's decisions.

Like today, for example.

kevin_405 · Post #12 » by **kevin_405** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 12:04 am

Come on guys Chris Wallace gave the Lakers 1 finals appearance and 1 title already.. he is great.. we call him the Manchurian candidate.. next is one of OJ Mayo or Rudy Gay...

Avalanche · Post #13 » by **Avalanche** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 12:19 am

our GM is also not Kevin Mchale

appreciate that too

Scalamental · Post #14 » by **Scalamental** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 2:40 am

threrf23 wrote:Why single Chris Wallace out? Why no "Rick Pitino is not associated with our organization" thread?

Cuz Rick Patino aint NBA news. Wallace is still making himself and whatever team he's working for look like doo doo.

GreenMachine · Post #15 » by **GreenMachine** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 7:52 am

You all do understand that Wallace is just being the good soldier and holding the company line. He KNOWS the Pau trade was dumb... he KNOWS a pro team needs scouts (he was one for goodness sake!) he is just doing what the owner tells him to do. He really gets way way way too much crap thrown on him that is Not his fault. He is one heck of a scout actually, maybe just a so-so GM... but who knows (who knows what trades he would and wouldn't make if money wasn't an issue...?). We ALL loved the Vin trade when it happened (and when Vin started the season like an All Star). He's just doing his job. Cut him some slack.

theman · Post #16 » by **theman** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 1:18 pm

threrf23 wrote:Why single Chris Wallace out? Why no "Rick Pitino is not associated with our organization" thread?

Two Words: Vin Baker.

That and Pitino is back where he belongs, coaching in the semi-pro league.

Ghost of the Garden wrote:ML Carr < *

ML Carr did his job. He built a young nucleus and acquired an extra lottery pick. He then put the team in position to get the top overall pick, and a good shot at the top two. The fact that Stern rigged the lottery against the Celtics is not Carr's fault, nor is the fact that Pitino had no back up plan once he lost Tim Duncan. I don't think Carr would have traded away half his team so he could sign Travis Knight to a seven year deal.

GreenMachine · Post #17 » by **GreenMachine** » Mon Aug 3, 2009 5:26 pm

ML Carr is a great example. What Wallace is doing is the SAME thing we all Credit ML for doing. Taking the hits in the press and fulfilling ownership's master plan. The only difference is we had a one year plan to blow it up... they are just going to ride the sucky train for the foreseeable future. But don't blame Wallace... blame ownership.