Sounds like Harping is done

[DaveMustaine]

You're just another bitter, all too common Jazz fan. Who is better for this team than Harpring that's on this roster at his position? Don't forget, almost nobody wants to play here...

You're just a bitter all too common loser who mistakenly thinks noone wants to play in Utah....... And you think Harpring is the best we can do....... Hustle counts, but hustle shouln't cost the team $6.5 million........

So are you mad that Harpring is playing, or are you mad about his contract that you don't even have to pay in the first place? And as far as somebody wanting to play in Utah, feel free to name him. It's always been like this, why is it that we had the greatest PF and PG ever, and nobody decent ever wanted to play here? For hell sakes, look at our rotation when we went to the finals, we only had 3 good players. Even though the Big Dog is my boy.

[red4hf]

You're just another bitter, all too common Jazz fan. Who is better for this team than Harpring that's on this roster at his position? Don't forget, almost nobody wants to play here...

You're just a bitter all too common loser who mistakenly thinks noone wants to play in Utah....... And you think Harpring is the best we can do....... Hustle counts, but hustle shouln't cost the team $6.5 million........

So are you mad that Harpring is playing, or are you mad about his contract that you don't even have to pay in the first place? And as far as somebody wanting to play in Utah, feel free to name him. It's always been like this, why is it that we had the greatest PF and PG ever, and nobody decent ever wanted to play here? For hell sakes, look at our rotation when we went to the finals, we only had 3 good players. Even though the Big Dog is my boy.

Okur, Boozer, Terry, Maggette, all signed contracts to play in Utah as free agents........

The team is resticted by A)salary cap, (you can't just sign anybody you want to, it has to fit in with the cap) B)Conservative ownership, (players with questionable pasts or attitudes need not apply, please) C) an **** for a Coach (just ask John Amaechi)...... That's why we don't sign a lot of free agents....... But we've been able to get all of our meaningful draft picks to sign extentions, how would that happen if nobody wanted to play in Utah........

[DaveMustaine]

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So are you mad that Harpring is playing, or are you mad about his contract that you don't even have to pay in the first place? And as far as somebody wanting to play in Utah, feel free to name him. It's always been like this, why is it that we had the greatest PF and PG ever, and nobody decent ever wanted to play here? For hell sakes, look at our rotation when we went to the finals, we only had 3 good players. Even though the Big Dog is my boy. [/quote]

Okur, Boozer, Terry, Maggette, all signed contracts to play in Utah as free agents........

The team is resticted by A)salary cap, (you can't just sign anybody you want to, it has to fit in with the cap) B)Conservative ownership, (players with questionable pasts or attitudes need not apply, please) C) an **** for a Coach (just ask John Amaechi)...... That's why we don't sign a lot of free agents....... But we've been able to get all of our meaningful draft picks to sign extentions, how would that happen if nobody wanted to play in Utah........[/quote]

Wow, after over 20+ years, the only players you can mention are the two softest starting big men in the league, and a guy that is hated by most of his team's fanbase. Notice how big money was lobed at three of the players, and as far as John Amechi goes, Sloan didn't play him not because he's a crappy coach, or because he hates gay people, but because Amechi was one of the worst players in the history of the NBA, and a guy that had no love for the game. Pretty weak argument...

[red4hf]

the only players you can mention are the two softest starting big men in the league,

OK, if that's what you think.......

and as far as John Amechi goes, Sloan didn't play him not because he's a crappy coach, or because he hates gay people, but because Amechi was one of the worst players in the history of the NBA, and a guy that had no love for the game.

I didn't say anything about not playing him (although he certainly has more skills than either McLeod or Palacio, who Sloan played like there was no tomorrow), it's the way Sloan TREATED him....... What player in his right mind would come to a team to get abused by a has-been Coach?

And yet there's still plenty of free agents who would LOVE to come play with Deron, it's just we can't afford to sign them because we give players like Harpring $6.5 million....... Bad management is the problem here, not attractiveness of Utah........

[Pai Gow]

Did I just see John amaechi used as a reference?

[red4hf]

Did I just see John amaechi used as a reference?

Why not? He is going to be a trivia question for the rest of his life, "Who was the first openly gay player in the NBA?"

[DaveMustaine]

Once again you didn't really answer my question, but I'll follow you down this path of nonsense. So what makes Sloan a has-been coach? Does he not make the playoffs anymore? Has he had more than one losing season over the last twenty years, or has he proven that he can't change up his style for a new crop of talent? Nobody, including myself, ever thought Sloan would allow a three point shooting center to start for him, but he did, and he catered the offense to his talent.

As far as McCloud and Pilacio go, I don't recall them playing Amechi's same position, and I believe that's what we were talking about, it just proves that you don't have a point, but you just like complaining, so you're left to jump all over the place.

Finally, if people wanted to play in Utah so bad, but our managment spending money on Harpring stops us from doing so, then why not use the MLE on somebody? Correct me if I'm wrong, but several good players have taken the MLE, or just a part of it to play for other teams this season, yet none have done that for Utah, why is that? Your arguments are still weak.

[red4hf]

Once again you didn't really answer my question,

I did actually, you just weren't happy with my answer....... That's not really my ptoblem.......

So what makes Sloan a has-been coach?

The fact that the game has past him by....... The fact that we run the same system that has produced ZERO titles for 20 years........ The fact that Sloan has continuously failed to develop rookies.......

Does he not make the playoffs anymore?

Sure, if that's your goal for the season, instead of being a title contender.......

Has he had more than one losing season over the last twenty years, or has he proven that he can't change up his style for a new crop of talent?

Yes, he's proven over and over that he can't adapt his style to new players.......

As far as McCloud and Pilacio go, I don't recall them playing Amechi's same position,

Noone ever said they did........

and I believe that's what we were talking about, it just proves that you don't have a point, but you just like complaining, so you're left to jump all over the place.

No wer were talking about Sloan playing scrubs instead of more talented/effective players (just like playing Matty over AK/Brewer/Korver), you might want to keep up with the conversation.......

Finally, if people wanted to play in Utah so bad, but our managment spending money on Harpring stops us from doing so, then why not use the MLE on somebody?

Not too many top free agents willing to take the MLE these days....... Not a whole bunch of roster spots available either....... You can't carry 20 layers even if you wanted to.......

Correct me if I'm wrong, but several good players have taken the MLE, or just a part of it to play for other teams this season, yet none have done that for Utah, why is that?

Because they want to win a title, and they think the Jazz aren't good enough....... And, of course, with our Coach, we're not........

Your arguments are still weak.

And yet they still make more sense than your........ Go figure........

[Reckless]

Harpring is a jerry sloan player. as long as sloan is coach...