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Rashard suspended 10 games for steroids 

Post#1 » by Gant » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:09 pm

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports ... ason-.html

Orlando Magic All-Star Rashard Lewis will be suspended for the first 10 games of next season because he has tested positive for a testosterone-producing steroid, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

According to league sources, Lewis was taking nutritional supplements at the end of last season that unknowing to him contained a substance commonly known as DHEA (Dehydroepiandrosterone) – a chemical compound made naturally in the body but also found in numerous over-the-counter supplements at nutritional stores. The substance is banned by most sports leagues, including the NBA.

One source said he believed Lewis’s positive test was "an honest mistake."

"There are more than 100 banned substances on the league’s list and athletes have to watch everything they take from common cold medications to vitamins to supplements," the source said.
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Post#2 » by Banks2Pierce » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:22 pm

Wow, this is pretty big. Rashard killed us more than any other player with his QUICKNESS over our bigs. I'm curious to see if this supplement increased quickness. I'm so sick of this cheating in all of the sports. I don't care if it's a mistake. You have to realize what you are taking. Do some damn homework.
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Post#3 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:25 pm

Well, that might explain why Raw has the complexion of a 14 year-old boy. :lol:
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Post#4 » by threrf23 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:28 pm

I'm so sick of this cheating in all of the sports.


Personally, I'm more sick of all the professional leagues encouraging it. Well, at least MLB. They still don't test in any capacity whatsoever for HGH. It puts players in a situation where they have to choose between maintaining integrity and playing by the real, unpublished rules - which begs the question of what someone with integrity and a contract to fulfill would do.

In the NBA, its not as bad in this respect but its similar when you consider the leagues' attitudes towards officiating.
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Post#5 » by Banks2Pierce » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:30 pm

threrf23 wrote:
I'm so sick of this cheating in all of the sports.


Personally, I'm more sick of all the professional leagues encouraging it. Well, at least MLB. They still don't test in any capacity whatsoever for HGH. It puts players in a situation where they have to choose between maintaining integrity and playing by the real, unpublished rules - which begs the question of what someone with integrity and a contract to fulfill would do.

In the NBA, its not as bad in this respect but its similar when you consider the leagues' attitudes towards officiating.



Yes, I agree it's the league's fault. If 50% of the people are taking it and not getting caught for anything and they end up getting bigger checks than you because of it, of course you are going to start using the stuff. This is why I don't devote any of my time to MLB anymore. I suspect this is running rampant in the NFL, too.
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Post#6 » by Banks2Pierce » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:35 pm

However, a randomized placebo-controlled trial found that DHEA supplementation had no (statistically significant) effect on lean body mass, strength, or testosterone levels


Then why the heck is it banned?
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Post#7 » by lojowo » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:39 pm

So when is the Replay of the Eastern Conference Finals Boston versus the Cavs scheduled for?!?

Celtics were Robbed!!!

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Post#8 » by JCizzle » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:47 pm

lojowo wrote:So when is the Replay of the Eastern Conference Finals Boston versus the Cavs scheduled for?!?

Celtics were Robbed!!!

:D :lol:


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Post#9 » by tranjSAIC » Thu Aug 6, 2009 8:49 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:Wow, this is pretty big. Rashard killed us more than any other player with his QUICKNESS over our bigs. I'm curious to see if this supplement increased quickness. I'm so sick of this cheating in all of the sports. I don't care if it's a mistake. You have to realize what you are taking. Do some damn homework.

DHEA is weaksh|t, if he was out to cheat he would have used something like the cream. Sounds to me he was just a dumbass for taking over the counter stuff. He has at his disposal plenty of medical / sports trainers he could have asked if it was banned or not.
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Post#10 » by SonicYouth34 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:08 pm

Sounds like an accident to me. Lewis doesn't seem like the kind of guy top juice up.
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Post#11 » by JHTruth » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:22 pm

Bizarre. I know it seemingly was an honest mistake, however this hasn't happened to any other player that I'm aware of. I guess I need to know more detail..
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Post#12 » by greenbeans » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:36 pm

JHTruth wrote:Bizarre. I know it seemingly was an honest mistake, however this hasn't happened to any other player that I'm aware of. I guess I need to know more detail..

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Post#13 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:39 pm

If some performance enhancing supplements have been developed which don't have horrible side effects- which I believe has been the case- why not just make them legal? Nutrition and weight-lifting are "performance enhancing", so what makes 'salmon and mashed potatoes' different from 'drugs that have minimal side effects'?
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Post#14 » by Dave_From_NB » Thu Aug 6, 2009 9:52 pm

I just don't get how professional athletes take ANYTHING that isn't given to them by the team doctor, who presumably would know what they could take or not. Or a team pharmacist. This garbage goes on too often, players taking stuff and then claiming it was all an innocent mistake. Teams pay 10's of millions for guys who screw it all up because they don't have enough brains to ask someone.
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Post#15 » by Celtics_Champs » Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:18 pm

Phew! I thought it said Rasheed.
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Post#16 » by BillessuR6 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:21 pm

No wonder he was abusing Big Baby and Scal! Had Scal taken steroids he would have dominated the magic!
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Post#17 » by exculpatory » Thu Aug 6, 2009 11:06 pm

Putting aside my celtic hat and my Paul Pierce jersey, and speaking as an experienced endocrinologist:

1) DHEA (dihydroepiandrosterone), androstenedione, and derivatives of "andro" known as "designer steroids" are anabolic steroids (as opposed to catabolic steroids such as the glucocorticoid, prednisone which is appropriately used to treat many different diseases) and are regulated by the DEA. These unapproved anabolic steroids are the drugs that athletes are abusing. Many of these anabolic steroids can be detected. They are all precursors of testosterone, i.e. they are converted to testosterone in the adrenal glands and gonads. Potential dangers include testicular atrophy/infertility, hepatic tumors, enlargement of the prostate, more viscous blood because the hematocrit increases, and decrease in HDL cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol).

2) Human growth hormone (hGH) is also abused as you all know. Detection is more difficult, but is improving every day. If anyone wants to hear more gory medical details about the pros and cons of the inappropriate use of hGH in the prevention of aging, or for athletic enhancement, please indicate same, and I will provide a short summary. In short, in particular with regard to the use of hGH to prevent aging, the answer is very clear today - MINIMAL BENEFIT AND SIGNIFICANT RISK (including the precipitation of diabetes mellitus/impaired glucose tolerance, and fluid retention resulting in edema, carpal tunnel syndrome, and aggravated hypertenstion, etc. If anyone wants to read about this, pull out the January 2007 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine, and look for a "systematic review of the use of hGH as an anti-aging therapy".

I hope none of our guys got sucked into this.

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Post#18 » by TonyMontana » Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:15 am

exculpatory wrote:Putting aside my celtic hat and my Paul Pierce jersey, and speaking as an experienced endocrinologist:

1) DHEA (dihydroepiandrosterone), androstenedione, and derivatives of "andro" known as "designer steroids" are anabolic steroids (as opposed to catabolic steroids such as the glucocorticoid, prednisone which is appropriately used to treat many different diseases) and are regulated by the DEA. These unapproved anabolic steroids are the drugs that athletes are abusing. Many of these anabolic steroids can be detected. They are all precursors of testosterone, i.e. they are converted to testosterone in the adrenal glands and gonads. Potential dangers include testicular atrophy/infertility, hepatic tumors, enlargement of the prostate, more viscous blood because the hematocrit increases, and decrease in HDL cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol).


2) Human growth hormone (hGH) is also abused as you all know. Detection is more difficult, but is improving every day. If anyone wants to hear more gory medical details about the pros and cons of the inappropriate use of hGH in the prevention of aging, or for athletic enhancement, please indicate same, and I will provide a short summary. In short, in particular with regard to the use of hGH to prevent aging, the answer is very clear today - MINIMAL BENEFIT AND SIGNIFICANT RISK (including the precipitation of diabetes mellitus/impaired glucose tolerance, and fluid retention resulting in edema, carpal tunnel syndrome, and aggravated hypertenstion, etc. If anyone wants to read about this, pull out the January 2007 issue of the Annals of Internal Medicine, and look for a "systematic review of the use of hGH as an anti-aging therapy".

I hope none of our guys got sucked into this.

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Ya I have a question and Im a Laker fan......... I hope thats okay with you.

So your a endocrinologist???

Now I know a little about Steriods and Growth, well not a little but a good amount and Im not a endocrinologist, but when you are making claims that

Potential dangers include testicular atrophy/infertility, hepatic tumors, enlargement of the prostate, more viscous blood because the hematocrit increases, and decrease in HDL cholesterol (the "good" cholesterol).


Are you saying this for longterm users or user that lets say have done a few cycles or lets say one cycle??? Or maybe health risks can be produced by longterm users or excessive doses, because I can promise you that either your not being clear about your post or your not accurate on your information your sharing on here. Im assuming "Your not being clear about your information".

Also this comment.

hGH to prevent aging, the answer is very clear today - MINIMAL BENEFIT AND SIGNIFICANT RISK (including the precipitation of diabetes mellitus/impaired glucose tolerance, and fluid retention resulting in edema, carpal tunnel syndrome, and aggravated hypertenstion, etc.


Are you actually saying that growth has minimal benefits and segnificant risks?
SInce Im amazed that you claim that, and that it only plays a role in anti aging and for athletic enhancement. Im also confused about that remark as well since I know growth can also Increases muscle mass, Increases fat breakdown for energy, Conserves blood glucose and muscle glycogen storage, Increases height in the skeletally immature individual, Increases size of hands, feet, and jaw
Enhances healing of musculoskeletal injuries, Increases protein synthesis which can enhance weight loss, regrowth of vital orgins, and so on and so on.

Also Im confused since you posted
for athletic enhancement,


I believe no one and I mean no one has been able to support claims that growth can improve the athletic performance of professional male athletes, no one. Specially and I mean specially athletes under the age of 30.


So I would love to hear a bit more breakdown on both of my question, but let me be very clear. Im not saying your wrong but your information is a bit not accurate and also some what misleading.

Again I hope you dont take my post in a negative way or me challenging you on your knowledge, its just I have a lot of interest on this subject............ Thats all.

Looking forward to hear your feedback.
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Post#19 » by GuyClinch » Fri Aug 7, 2009 3:03 am

It this Rashard's spin or did he REALLY test for DHEA. Athletes are very quick to blame supplements when most of the time they were taking the real ****. DHEA doesn't even really work..

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Post#20 » by SeizeCoup » Fri Aug 7, 2009 3:09 am

Is Tony Montana a juicehead?

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