Which wrestlers have Championship potential?

Celtsfan1980 · Post #1 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:51 pm

These are all wrestlers who have potential. I could see Ziggler winning the Intercontinental Title, but I think the league will be in trouble if he ever wins one of the two Championships. I'd say yes for the other 4.

diogo_pt · Post #2 » by **diogo_pt** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:28 pm

of this list, John Morrison is clearly the better

i have faith on Swagger too

CapeCrusader · Post #3 » by **CapeCrusader** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:03 am

For the poll I voted Morrison cuz he reminds me of a young HBK. MVP and Swagger could do some big things too. Kozlov and Ziggler are mid-carders.

Not really off topic, but one guy thats not on the list that they kinda pushed but not really is Shelton Benjamin. That guy still has great potential with amazing athletic attributes. I would love for him to get a push in WWE, but that doesn't look to happen...if I were him I would leave after his contract is up and go to TNA.

Cliff Levingston · Post #4 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:55 pm

Since you're allowed to, Cliff Levingston voted for Morrison, Swagger and Ziggler. If you don't think Ziggler has championship potential then you're nuts. He's got more championship potential at his age than Chris Benoit ever did from a total package perspective and Benoit was constantly in the championship picture. Ziggler is the sh*t and Cliff Levingston called it from the beginning when he was just shaking guys' hands in the back.

Swagger's definitely a future champion. He's got great size and strength, can really put on some good matches (some stinkers too) and can really carry himself on the mic. Cliff Levingston became a big Swagger fan when he told Ricky Ortiz that people should use his rally towels as blindfolds any time Ricky wrestles.

Morrison has more potential than the other two combined though. Great on the mic, incredible in the ring. He's basically the modern day version of Shawn Michaels and he'll be right in the hunt for the World Title in the upcoming few months.

MVP was looking pretty good as a heel, then the WWE decided to turn him face. Not sure why; he's a horrible face and still isn't too over. He literally has to go crazy in the ring to get any kind of meaningful face reaction. MVP as a heel has a slight amount championship potential but not really; his matches are pretty boring and he doesn't have a great look about him.

Kozlov has no championship potential whatsoever. He's just a big brute who goes out there and destroys people (or is supposed to). His matches don't wow you and he can't cut an interesting promo if his entire family's collective lives depended on it. He's basically the new Umaga and has a long way to go before he can ever be as good as Kane (who's barely ever been in the championship hunt).

Celtsfan1980 · Post #5 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:17 pm

CapeCrusader wrote:Not really off topic, but one guy thats not on the list that they kinda pushed but not really is Shelton Benjamin. That guy still has great potential with amazing athletic attributes. I would love for him to get a push in WWE, but that doesn't look to happen...if I were him I would leave after his contract is up and go to TNA.

I would have thought Benjamin would have that kind of potential years ago, but since he's been in the league for many years it's safe to say he'll never be Champion. I do agree that he'd be better off in another league.

I never saw Shawn and Morrison as being comparable, but I'm not completely against it. Morrison is my favorite wrestler on Smackdown so I hope he wins the Championship at some point.

diogo_pt · Post #6 » by **diogo_pt** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:24 am

Cliff Levingston wrote:Since you're allowed to, Cliff Levingston voted for Morrison, Swagger and Ziggler. If you don't think Ziggler has championship potential then you're nuts. He's got more championship potential at his age than Chris Benoit ever did from a total package perspective and Benoit was constantly in the championship picture. Ziggler is the sh*t and Cliff Levingston called it from the beginning when he was just shaking guys' hands in the back.

Swagger's definitely a future champion. He's got great size and strength, can really put on some good matches (some stinkers too) and can really carry himself on the mic. Cliff Levingston became a big Swagger fan when he told Ricky Ortiz that people should use his rally towels as blindfolds any time Ricky wrestles.

Morrison has more potential than the other two combined though. Great on the mic, incredible in the ring. He's basically the modern day version of Shawn Michaels and he'll be right in the hunt for the World Title in the upcoming few months.

MVP was looking pretty good as a heel, then the WWE decided to turn him face. Not sure why; he's a horrible face and still isn't too over. He literally has to go crazy in the ring to get any kind of meaningful face reaction. MVP as a heel has a slight amount championship potential but not really; his matches are pretty boring and he doesn't have a great look about him.

Kozlov has no championship potential whatsoever. He's just a big brute who goes out there and destroys people (or is supposed to). His matches don't wow you and he can't cut an interesting promo if his entire family's collective lives depended on it. He's basically the new Umaga and has a long way to go before he can ever be as good as Kane (who's barely ever been in the championship hunt).

what i read here is almost exactly what i think

CapeCrusader · Post #7 » by **CapeCrusader** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:03 am

Celtsfan1980 wrote:I would have thought Benjamin would have that kind of potential years ago, but since he's been in the league for many years it's safe to say he'll never be Champion. I do agree that he'd be better off in another league.

I never saw Shawn and Morrison as being comparable, but I'm not completely against it. Morrison is my favorite wrestler on Smackdown so I hope he wins the Championship at some point.

Well old school HBK...I mean when he super kicked Jannetty in the barber shop and then was managed by Sherri HBK. The athletic ability/charisma/cockiness that HBK had is the same Morrison had before he turned face.

Tricky Ricky · Post #8 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:36 pm

On your list the only two to me with potential are Swagger and MVP.

I like Ziggler a lot but he works better as an IC Champ.

Morrison has the skill but he has 0 Mic skills! His Mic skills are comical at best

and Kozlov lol, enough said

Celtsfan1980 · Post #9 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:36 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Kozlov has no championship potential whatsoever. He's just a big brute who goes out there and destroys people (or is supposed to). His matches don't wow you and he can't cut an interesting promo if his entire family's collective lives depended on it. He's basically the new Umaga and has a long way to go before he can ever be as good as Kane (who's barely ever been in the championship hunt).

I'm a little late but I think with the right manager he could have a Championship reign on Smackdown. This could only be a one-month reign, but he was pushed when he was on Smackdown to near main event status so I could see it happening again. I don't follow the insider news too much, so I have no idea what Vince thinks of him.

Cliff Levingston · Post #10 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:32 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Cliff Levingston wrote:Kozlov has no championship potential whatsoever. He's just a big brute who goes out there and destroys people (or is supposed to). His matches don't wow you and he can't cut an interesting promo if his entire family's collective lives depended on it. He's basically the new Umaga and has a long way to go before he can ever be as good as Kane (who's barely ever been in the championship hunt).

I'm a little late but I think with the right manager he could have a Championship reign on Smackdown. This could only be a one-month reign, but he was pushed when he was on Smackdown to near main event status so I could see it happening again. I don't follow the insider news too much, so I have no idea what Vince thinks of him.

No, sorry. He was pushed into the main event, but if you thought he ever had a shot at winning those triple threat matches, you're crazy.

As said, he's booked to be an intimidating monster heel much like Kane, but those types of guys hardly ever win titles, and if they do, they don't hold them long. Kane has been one of the longest tenured and best big men the WWE has ever seen, yet he's only held a World title for one day, total. He's won the ECW championship and all that happy crap, but we're talking world championship... as in, being able to possibly headline Wrestlemania. Kane is 10 times better than Kozlov ever was or will be, so if Kane can only hold the WWE Title for one day, Kozlov won't come remotely close.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #11 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Sat Aug 1, 2009 8:43 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:
Celtsfan1980 wrote:
Cliff Levingston wrote:Kozlov has no championship potential whatsoever. He's just a big brute who goes out there and destroys people (or is supposed to). His matches don't wow you and he can't cut an interesting promo if his entire family's collective lives depended on it. He's basically the new Umaga and has a long way to go before he can ever be as good as Kane (who's barely ever been in the championship hunt).

I'm a little late but I think with the right manager he could have a Championship reign on Smackdown. This could only be a one-month reign, but he was pushed when he was on Smackdown to near main event status so I could see it happening again. I don't follow the insider news too much, so I have no idea what Vince thinks of him.

No, sorry. He was pushed into the main event, but if you thought he ever had a shot at winning those triple threat matches, you're crazy.

As said, he's booked to be an intimidating monster heel much like Kane, but those types of guys hardly ever win titles, and if they do, they don't hold them long. Kane has been one of the longest tenured and best big men the WWE has ever seen, yet he's only held a World title for one day, total. He's won the ECW championship and all that happy crap, but we're talking world championship... as in, being able to possibly headline Wrestlemania. Kane is 10 times better than Kozlov ever was or will be, so if Kane can only hold the WWE Title for one day, Kozlov won't come remotely close.

To be fair, Kane was in the league for a long time when it had only one Championship. This could be either Championships so the circumstances are slightly different. This reminds me of a question I have. My brother is familiar with the Russian language and claims Kozlov doesn't even speak Russian when he's talking. Does anyone know if that's true? I thought that was funny if it's true.

CapeCrusader · Post #12 » by **CapeCrusader** » Wed Aug 5, 2009 6:26 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:To be fair, Kane was in the league for a long time when it had only one Championship. This could be either Championships so the circumstances are slightly different. This reminds me of a question I have. My brother is familiar with the Russian language and claims Kozlov doesn't even speak Russian when he's talking. Does anyone know if that's true? I thought that was funny if it's true.

Wouldn't surprise me. Kinda like how Kofi Kingston isn't really from Jamaica or something, his accent is fake thats for sure.

Mike Hunt · Post #13 » by **Mike Hunt** » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:12 pm

I actually think Kozlov could be the best of the bunch. Don't get me wrong, there is little to his character right now, but unlike almost all of the other guys mentioned, he actually looks like he could win a match against anybody in wrestling (you know, if the stuff was real). There are certainly a lot of things that could be done with him before he could be a champ: give him a new costume, plain white shorts are not enough; get him good intro music; pair him with a great manager who does all the character building for him; Instead of keeping on finding him big name opponents, find a way to get him a big name ally (cool by association);

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #14 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:49 am

Morrison is the best worker is the bunch, he damn well might be the best worker in the compnay he has the total package with this gimmike,
that kid will get a world championship at least once in his career.

Dolph Ziggler has pretty good skills and his gimmike is over good as a heel he is geting the right heat, its hard to see him as a world champion but it was also hard to see RVD Eddie Guerrero and Jeff Hardy as world champions so dont know what will happen,
Ziggler i see as a good Upper Carder IC Champion

Vlad is just to bland for me to watch i would expect him to win some world championship downhte line since hes a one of those big hosses

Swagger is very Talanted that damn lisp pisses me off its a good tool as a heel to have and he just has that D bag look he fits also as a uppercard mid card heel with IC champion potinal

MVP also Talanted and good on the mic but he needs the right push to get him there, i think he could be world champion but only as a heel, as a face he will be a IC champion

skbucks1985 · Post #15 » by **skbucks1985** » Fri Aug 7, 2009 3:25 pm

Morrison and MVP IMO are both kind in the same boat. There great heels but only good faces. The thing is with WWE's utter lack of over faces being simply good makes you great by default. Morrison has been a face for like 3 months and is Smackdown's #3 face.

El Hardee · Post #16 » by **El Hardee** » Fri Aug 7, 2009 3:27 pm

Morrison/Ziggler/Swagger in that order. I think we all agree on Morrison, but Dolph has Champ written all over him aswell. The dude is tight on the mike and in the ring, I bet a feud with Cena would get him to the next level.

Post #17 » by **Headliner** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:01 pm

none of those guys really impress me.

Tricky Ricky · Post #18 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:46 pm

El Hardee wrote:Morrison/Ziggler/Swagger in that order. I think we all agree on Morrison, but Dolph has Champ written all over him aswell. The dude is tight on the mike and in the ring, I bet a feud with Cena would get him to the next level.

Morrison is terrible, hes great in the ring but has no Mic skills. MVP is by far the most tallented on the list but is stuck on Raw under HHH/HBK. Swagger is up on the list also and I think Ziggler is a perfect IC champ.

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #19 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:45 am

Calling Morrison terrible is a insult to wrestling, he has all the tools to make it, he has the look the skills and he dos ehave the mic skills he just ralry is allowed to talk

Tricky Ricky · Post #20 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:40 pm

jeffhardyfan52 wrote:Calling Morrison terrible is a insult to wrestling, he has all the tools to make it, he has the look the skills and he dos ehave the mic skills he just ralry is allowed to talk

LOL he has absolutly no Mic skills, I use to love hearing him and Melina give promos.

He does have the look but the look of a heel not a face, WWE did an awful job making him into a face.

He is entertaining in the ring I think he makes a better IC champ but it seems everyone wins the big belts these days...