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Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#1 » by Captain Erv » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:15 pm

I know wide receiver wasn't a need, but I think a lot of us were intrigued with the prospect of taking Crabtree when he was still available with the 9th pick. Well, looks like Ted made the right choice.

Source: Parker tells Niners that Crabtree will re-enter draft

Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 11:52 AM ET

The situation in San Francisco between the 49ers and receiver Michael Crabtree is quickly going from bad to worse.

Per a league source, agent Eugene Parker is telling the 49ers that Crabtree will sit out the season re-enter the draft in 2010, unless the team gives Crabtree what he wants.

Of course, what Crabtree specifically wants isn't known, since Parker (as multiple sources tell us) still hasn't made a proposal.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#2 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:16 pm

Would the 49ers get another pick? or would they completely lose it?
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Post#3 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:23 pm

One thing I was thinking about this morning is why the hell doesn't the ball get rolling on these signings months ago? Like the moment after a draft, get serious about bringing in your first rounders. How am I supposed to believe that these negotiations are really taking three months? Ugh.

And is it really that tough to come up with a contract? Look at the last five years for players taken at that spot in the draft. Calculate the raises given each year. Apply that to last year's number and be done with it.

I know I'm over simplifying this but the NFL draft salaries are a complete joke.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#4 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:28 pm

Agents are so worried about being shown up it's ridiculous. For instance if the #6 and #7 guys aren't signed, the #6 guy doesn't want to sign first because the agent is afraid #7 will get more and make him look bad. And it's like dominos the rest of the way down the chain.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#5 » by Newz » Thu Aug 6, 2009 5:54 pm

I'm not even sure Crabtree would go in the first round if he just sat out an entire year without playing football.

That would destroy his stock and cripple any chance he has at getting money even close to what the 49ers will give him.

Just another stupid threat by an agent.
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Post#6 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Aug 6, 2009 6:19 pm

I really hope San Francisco refuses to give in. And if Crabtree does really sit out, this would force both the players union and the owners to come up with a solution to the rookie contract conundrum.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#7 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:17 pm

LukePliska wrote:I'm not even sure Crabtree would go in the first round if he just sat out an entire year without playing football.

That would destroy his stock and cripple any chance he has at getting money even close to what the 49ers will give him.

Just another stupid threat by an agent.


I'm not sure the layoff from football would have massive effect on his stock. Mike Williams sat out a year and went #10 overall and Crabtree doesn't have the same red flags in his game.

Where I think he would be hurt is the WR class next season could be great at the top. Benn is a legit, superstar caliber WR talent. Damian Williams has momentum after dominating in the Rose Bowl. My favorite WR is Dez Bryant. The guy is a stud and an over the middle warrior.

None of the three are as polished at route running as Crabtree but each could be awesome pros.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#8 » by MetroDrugUnit » Thu Aug 6, 2009 10:23 pm

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LukePliska wrote:I'm not even sure Crabtree would go in the first round if he just sat out an entire year without playing football.

That would destroy his stock and cripple any chance he has at getting money even close to what the 49ers will give him.

Just another stupid threat by an agent.


I'm not sure the layoff from football would have massive effect on his stock. Mike Williams sat out a year and went #10 overall and Crabtree doesn't have the same red flags in his game.



Yah but does he wan to be classified in the same class of winners as Mo and Mike Willaims who were big time NFL busts? Clarett was a gamble but Willaims was supposed to be the real deal.

I think this would be great if he did do this, it would be an epic fail on his part and as Jake mentioned earlier it might force the hand of the NFL to look into the rookie salery mess.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#9 » by Thunder Muscle » Thu Aug 6, 2009 11:57 pm

I love sports and my teams, but I really am starting to hate the big time collegiate and pro athlete. Its funny as a kid one kind of idolizes them and then as you get exposure to them whether it being through stories in the know, going to college with athletes, or just their antics one almost hates to root for them. Sure part of it may be jealousy but these egos, salaries, etc are just getting out of control each year. I guess its not going to change though and I guess there some good ones out there, so I shouldn't lump them all together. But I think you get my point.
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Post#10 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Aug 7, 2009 1:22 am

N8, that is one reason there is more than a small contingent of people that greatly prefer college sports to their professional counterparts. That is not to say that the collegiate sports are clear of all egos, antics, or $$$, but the emphasis is far less pronounced.
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Post#11 » by bigkurty » Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:22 am

MikeIsGood wrote:N8, that is one reason there is more than a small contingent of people that greatly prefer college sports to their professional counterparts. That is not to say that the collegiate sports are clear of all egos, antics, or $$$, but the emphasis is far less pronounced.

I agree with this to an extent but their are cocky and humble guys on every level. Ron Dayne as a senior was the nicest and most humble guy you would ever meet even though he was a superstar on campus, Touchdown Tony Simmons was cocky as all get out even though he wasn't even that good compared to Dayne. It all comes down to personality. Bogut for example is very gracious and humble in person and seems like a really good guy. Damon Jones was cocky as all hell when I met him even though he has never been half the player Bogut was. Michael Bennett in high school was a damn nice guy on the track field. BJ Tucker was stand offish on the track field. I think it really comes down to personality. Last years Bucks squad for example had a ton of guys you could approach if you ever met them out however everyone's favorite, Sessions, was also standoffish the two chances I had to meet him. For that reason I could see why the bucks FO doesn't view him as leadership material. CV is also pretty shy in person believe it or not although when approached, he will give you time and talk to you (he just seems somewhat uncomfortable with the idea that he is a local celeb in person even though he seems to like the limelight on twitter). Redd however was the ultimate professional team representative at Boguts charity event as was Bell and to a lesser extent RJ. Some people are just personable and some are not. Danny G is a great guy when you talk to him too however you can see the shyness in his body language in public forums. That's my 2 cents anyway.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#12 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:39 pm

Yes. Though, out of all the hold outs, I'd still rather have Malcolm Jenkins.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#13 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:27 pm

kurty, I think you're putting more emphasis on general personality type vs. me referring mainly to how it relates to the athletes making money. Naturally it is going to depend on the individual personalities to an extent, but in general, money-grubbing becomes more of an issue when you get into the professional sports and the athletes start directly making their money. Players aren't making a big deal about holding out for bigger contracts in college, because they don't exist. Though they aren't necessarily making big deals about it like some others, even the humblest of players in the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. are still going where the money is. That happens some in college too, as I alluded to, but it's much less prominant and more about "spirit of the game" and going where they feel they have their best chance to do something great (i.e. win). Certainly, it should be noted that some athletes go to college solely as a stepping block, and to audition themselves for the next level. I think college-only fans would still tell you that most of them are not yet as overcome as they will be at the next level.

This is also not to say that professional athletes care all about money and none about winning. That's not really the point.

I don't limit my interest in sports solely to pre-professional leagues (obviously, given that I post on the Bucks, Packers, and Brewers boards), though I do generally prefer college sports to their pro counterparts (basketball and, to a lesser extent, football). That's just a matter of personal taste. My point was that there are certainly people out there that have such little desire for any of the business side of professional sports that they stick solely to college, or even high school, variants. No athlete contracts, CBAs, lockouts, holdouts, trades, etc.

I will note that this is not to say that college sports is not a business. Wisconsin had the fifth-most profitable football team in the NCAA last year, for example, even despite their lackluster season. But I think the college fan's point is to make the distinction between the athletes that play it versus the executives that run it.
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Re: Glad we passed on Crabtree 

Post#14 » by LUKE23 » Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:36 pm

Raji was the right pick at #9.

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