Kings interested in Sessions?

[Smills91]

http://my.journaltimes.com/post/woelfel ... trade.html

There have also been rumblings the Sacramento Kings have recently inquired about Sessions. However, the extent of the Kings' interest isn't known.

I'm game! Especially if it's a sign and trade!

[dozencousins]

I think he would be a nice pick up for the right price i would not want us to over spend (see BENO )

Anyways i doubt we get him though ....

[sd_kingsfan]

I like the idea of Sessions. I remember reading something like the Bucks will only match offers $3 Mill and lower. So the question is would we offer the full MLE and hope the Bucks don't retract their stance, or pull off a sign and trade?

The bucks would not particularly go for a sign and trade for any of our bad contracts. Why take Beno for a long term contract worth more than they would be giving to sessions? Or Garcia? Or Nocioni? I think the only players that are possible are Donte or Sergio. No to any of the rooks or JT/Spencer. Also K9's contract could be attractive...

So we are looking at Sessions 4yr/22 Mil+ or so and...

Donte for Sessions
Sergio for Sessions
Maybe- Garcia for Sessions

And what might be best- Thomas/Sergio and for Sessions and Gadzuric?

[hbhakta]

And what might be best- Thomas/Sergio and for Sessions and Gadzuric?

thats a little too much to give up....
KT's trade value will be worth more creeping up towards the trade deadline. Im sure some teams will be willing to give up talent to shed some cost.

[KM44]

Meh, I don't really see the point. It adds some talent to our depth chart, but what would this do to Evans' development? I guess it could be a good thing to ease him into a role, but I would like to see what he can do right now.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

only if we move Beno.

[sd_kingsfan]

only if we move Beno.

I really see no where Beno could go without taking in a comparatively hideous contract. Bucks are looking for a salary dump, not a terrible contract. Sergio fits the bill (and position needed). IF we could trade K9/Sergio for Sessions/Gadzurik our lineup looks like this.

pg. Sessions/ Evans/ Beno
sg. Martin/ Evans/ Garcia
sf. Nocioni/ Garcia/ Evans/ Greene/ Casspi
pf. Thompson/ May/ Brock/ Greene/ Casspi/
c. Hawes/ Gadzurick/ May

Looks like a decently solid rotation all around. We bury Beno on the bench (good for wins, bad for trade value), get a real back up center with only taking on 1 more year of bad contract compared to K9, get a strong starting pg while allowing Evans to play off the bench at 3 positions. This is a much better team now and in the future. I really would not mind swapping Sergio out and putting Greene or Garcia or Beno or even Nocioni in there either (or also).

[Nicky Nix Nook]

only if we move Beno.

I really see no where Beno could go without taking in a comparatively hideous contract. Bucks are looking for a salary dump, not a terrible contract. Sergio fits the bill (and position needed). IF we could trade K9/Sergio for Sessions/Gadzurik our lineup looks like this.

pg. Sessions/ Evans/ Beno
sg. Martin/ Evans/ Garcia
sf. Nocioni/ Garcia/ Evans/ Greene/ Casspi
pf. Thompson/ May/ Brock/ Greene/ Casspi/
c. Hawes/ Gadzurick/ May

Looks like a decently solid rotation all around. We bury Beno on the bench (good for wins, bad for trade value), get a real back up center with only taking on 1 more year of bad contract compared to K9, get a strong starting pg while allowing Evans to play off the bench at 3 positions. This is a much better team now and in the future. I really would not mind swapping Sergio out and putting Greene or Garcia or Beno or even Nocioni in there either (or also).

there is no way we spend the money we did on Beno and then bury him on the bench.

[sd_kingsfan]

only if we move Beno.

I really see no where Beno could go without taking in a comparatively hideous contract. Bucks are looking for a salary dump, not a terrible contract. Sergio fits the bill (and position needed). IF we could trade K9/Sergio for Sessions/Gadzurik our lineup looks like this.

pg. Sessions/ Evans/ Beno
sg. Martin/ Evans/ Garcia
sf. Nocioni/ Garcia/ Evans/ Greene/ Casspi
pf. Thompson/ May/ Brock/ Greene/ Casspi/
c. Hawes/ Gadzurick/ May

Looks like a decently solid rotation all around. We bury Beno on the bench (good for wins, bad for trade value), get a real back up center with only taking on 1 more year of bad contract compared to K9, get a strong starting pg while allowing Evans to play off the bench at 3 positions. This is a much better team now and in the future. I really would not mind swapping Sergio out and putting Greene or Garcia or Beno or even Nocioni in there either (or also).

there is no way we spend the money we did on Beno and then bury him on the bench.

I agree, but are we really going to sacrifice wins because we gave Beno money? There has to come a time when petrie says he screwed the pooch and moves on.

[KF10]

I think Sessions is an unneeded luxury. This will create another longterm commitment at the point guard position. I would like the Kings to stop adding more to the payroll unless it is absolutely needed. And I don't see Sessions as that IMO.

[darkadun]

I have mixed feelings. Not about him as a player, but his role and what it would require on our part to get him. We already have 3 players at the PG, so its not really a need, so to me, we would have to get rid of Sergio. But perhaps some kind of S&T deal, swapping a few players both ways might balance this out.

Yet.....when thinking about it, a combo of Evans w/Sessions off the bench might be great future, and it gives us alot of flexibility at SG/PG. It allows Evans to fill in at times for KMart, and lets Sessions get quality minutes every game.

[down_el_road]

i dont know why we would be interested in Sessions. We already have a solid PG core and i dont think he really worth a sign and trade and the full MLE.

[sd_kingsfan]

i dont know why we would be interested in Sessions. We already have a solid PG core and i dont think he really worth a sign and trade and the full MLE.

Not sure we have a "solid point guard core". We have a star in the making who could be a point guard after a lot of work(Reke), a over paid zero (beno), and a career underachiever who may or may not end up being a decent role player (Rodriquez). So where is the solid core you are talking about?

Personally I think Tyreke can be a star pg in this league, but it will take time. Give him a year or two coming off the bench at 3 positions and he can be that. I just think if he is the opening day starter at pg, the fans, organization, and he will give up on himself due to leading the league in turnovers. The kings can give 30+ minutes to sessions,Martin, and Evans in a 3 man guard rotation. Now thats a solid core.

[sd_kingsfan]

With Sessions the 8 or 9 man rotation:

Mins per game:
Sessions- 30
Evans- 30
Martin- 34
Garcia- 26
Nocioni- 28
May- 20
Thompson- 30
Hawes-30

12 Minutes to all the rest. This is a possible 35+ win team if everyone can stay healthy.

[down_el_road]

i dont know why we would be interested in Sessions. We already have a solid PG core and i dont think he really worth a sign and trade and the full MLE.

Not sure we have a "solid point guard core". We have a star in the making who could be a point guard after a lot of work(Reke), a over paid zero (beno), and a career underachiever who may or may not end up being a decent role player (Rodriquez). So where is the solid core you are talking about?

Personally I think Tyreke can be a star pg in this league, but it will take time. Give him a year or two coming off the bench at 3 positions and he can be that. I just think if he is the opening day starter at pg, the fans, organization, and he will give up on himself due to leading the league in turnovers. The kings can give 30+ minutes to sessions,Martin, and Evans in a 3 man guard rotation. Now thats a solid core.

Im really starting to get pissed off at the people who say Beno is a "zero" or Beno sucks. Beno does not suck. Like Smills has said before, If you sleep on him, he has the power to put up a monster double-double. Beno imo could be sixth man worthy if given the right situation and now that Tyreke is here along with Rod i can see Beno having one of his best years this season. I wouldnt mind having my back up PG averaging 13pts and 5assts a game.

And im not very sure how Rody could become an "underachiever". He was one of the more consistant back up Gs in the leauge last year and vastly improved his game when Rudy came over. I mean i know the dude didnt make it on the Spain national team and he wasnt projected to be the next Steve Nash or anything but i wouldnt call him underachieving.

So all together Tyreke starting and Beno/Rody sharing the minutes off the bench seems pretty solid to me thus why i think we shouldnt try anything for Sessions.

[ICMTM]

Here is my issue with bringing in Session. We just drafted Tyreke Evans (just added to Firefox spellcheck) and we have Martin. If we bring in Sessions it will be for a multi year deal. He's not a polished player. Someone out of the back court will be departing. We can't hold all these players. If Evans is the guy then this move is stupid.

[Smills91]

Here is my issue with bringing in Session. We just drafted Tyreke Evans (just added to Firefox spellcheck) and we have Martin. If we bring in Sessions it will be for a multi year deal. He's not a polished player. Someone out of the back court will be departing. We can't hold all these players. If Evans is the guy then this move is stupid.

I agree something has to give, and that's Udrih. I think maybe a Udrih for Diop type swap that gets us a back-up Center(also removes a log jam at the 5 in Charlotte - TC, Nazr and Ajinca) and opens up a space to just go sign Sessions outright. I think Sessions CAN make a lot of sense because he can be signed to a sub-MLE level contract. He's shown to be a fabulous distributor and floor general in his first two seasons. As good as Evans WILL be, I don't see that skill-set overlapping between the 2. I think a backcourt rotation of Sessions, Evans, and Martin is absolutely FABULOUS. And Diop gives us a defensive enforcer off the bench behind Hawes that we need.

I think this could be the ideal move for the summer for us to balance our roster. We'd still have some cap space left over, and Kenny EC come the deadline to potentially bolster us going forward in a trade, as well.

I think signing high quality talent on the cheap is NEVER a bad thing, and a bird in the hand(sessions in '09) is worth more than two in the bush(JJ in 2010), IMO.

[sd_kingsfan]

i dont know why we would be interested in Sessions. We already have a solid PG core and i dont think he really worth a sign and trade and the full MLE.

Not sure we have a "solid point guard core". We have a star in the making who could be a point guard after a lot of work(Reke), a over paid zero (beno), and a career underachiever who may or may not end up being a decent role player (Rodriquez). So where is the solid core you are talking about?

Personally I think Tyreke can be a star pg in this league, but it will take time. Give him a year or two coming off the bench at 3 positions and he can be that. I just think if he is the opening day starter at pg, the fans, organization, and he will give up on himself due to leading the league in turnovers. The kings can give 30+ minutes to sessions,Martin, and Evans in a 3 man guard rotation. Now thats a solid core.

So all together Tyreke starting and Beno/Rody sharing the minutes off the bench seems pretty solid to me thus why i think we shouldnt try anything for Sessions.

Again, Tyreke with Beno/Rodriquez off the bench is not winning games. This is not a knock on Beno or Rodriquez, just reality. Solid? If I were going to pick a pg rotation from any team in the league, this would not be my rotation. Evans will be a stud, and will be serviceable until then.

Current talent wise: Reke/Beno/Rod vs.....

Bibby/Crawford/Teague? Loss
Rondo/House/Hudson? L
Felton/ Augustine? L
Rose/Hienrich/ Pargo? L
Mo Williams/West/ Gibson? L
Kidd/Terry/Barea/Beaubois? L
Billups/Lawson? L
Stucky/Bynum? Push
Ellis/Curry/Law/Claxton? L
Brooks/Lowry/Llull? Push
Ford/Watson? L
Davis/Telfair? L
Fisher/Farmar? L
Conley/Mayo? L
Chalmers/Quinn? Push
Sessions/Jennings/Ridnour? L
Flynn/ Brown? Win
Harris/Alson/Dooling? L
Paul/Collison/Dooling? L
Douhon/Douglas? Win
Westbrook/Livingston/Ollie? L
Nelson/Johnson/ Redick? L
L Williams/ Holiday? Win
Nash/Barbosa/Dragic? L
Miller/Bayless/Blake? L
Parker/Hill/De Colo? L
Calderon/Banks? L
Williams/Maynor/Price? L
Arenas/Crittenton/James? L

The way I figure it, we only clearly have a more talented pg rotation than 3 teams in the league. NY, Philly, and Minnesota are the only teams in the league that are going to get fewer wins from there PG rotaion then us. And considering that OUR PG ROTATION IS NOT SOLID. Evans will be a star, but not yet.

[sackings916]

I would love to have Sessions on this team, but IMO with him on the team there's no way Tyreke plays PG unless Udrih is moved. I'd like to see what a Sessions/Evans/Martin/Thompson/Hawes lineup could do. I know Martin at the 3 could be a concern defensively, but I think Martin would be a much bigger mismatch at the other end, there's no way a SF can stay with Kmart.

[down_el_road]

[/quote]Again, Tyreke with Beno/Rodriquez off the bench is not winning games. This is not a knock on Beno or Rodriquez, just reality. Solid? If I were going to pick a pg rotation from any team in the league, this would not be my rotation. Evans will be a stud, and will be serviceable until then.

Current talent wise: Reke/Beno/Rod vs.....

Bibby/Crawford/Teague? Loss
Rondo/House/Hudson? L
Felton/ Augustine? L
Rose/Hienrich/ Pargo? L
Mo Williams/West/ Gibson? L
Kidd/Terry/Barea/Beaubois? L
Billups/Lawson? L
Stucky/Bynum? Push
Ellis/Curry/Law/Claxton? L
Brooks/Lowry/Llull? Push
Ford/Watson? L
Davis/Telfair? L
Fisher/Farmar? L
Conley/Mayo? L
Chalmers/Quinn? Push
Sessions/Jennings/Ridnour? L
Flynn/ Brown? Win
Harris/Alson/Dooling? L
Paul/Collison/Dooling? L
Douhon/Douglas? Win
Westbrook/Livingston/Ollie? L
Nelson/Johnson/ Redick? L
L Williams/ Holiday? Win
Nash/Barbosa/Dragic? L
Miller/Bayless/Blake? L
Parker/Hill/De Colo? L
Calderon/Banks? L
Williams/Maynor/Price? L
Arenas/Crittenton/James? L

The way I figure it, we only clearly have a more talented pg rotation than 3 teams in the league. NY, Philly, and Minnesota are the only teams in the league that are going to get fewer wins from there PG rotaion then us. And considering that OUR PG ROTATION IS NOT SOLID. Evans will be a star, but not yet.[/quote]


I think your being compeletly unfair towards the roster and not giving them a chance. You have no confidence. Please please please, let the first 10-15 games go by before you start comparing our PGs to other teams PGs. What i mean by solid is that Our PGs have differnet sets of skills that can match well together. God everybody thinks Beno is just such a terrible player when he really is not that at all.