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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#21 » by BakersDozen » Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:01 pm

Dogen wrote:
BakersDozen wrote:this team is looking much better compared to last years. (If KG is healthy)

Rondo/House/Pruitt
Ray/Daniels/Allen
PP/Walker/Giddens
KG/Sheed/Williams
Perk/Baby/Scal

All Danny has to do is get rid of Pruitt and TA and sign a vet third string pg (Lue,Bobby Jackson)


Pruitt is already gone.



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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#22 » by Dogen » Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:38 pm

BakersDozen wrote:
Dogen wrote:
BakersDozen wrote:this team is looking much better compared to last years. (If KG is healthy)

Rondo/House/Pruitt
Ray/Daniels/Allen
PP/Walker/Giddens
KG/Sheed/Williams
Perk/Baby/Scal

All Danny has to do is get rid of Pruitt and TA and sign a vet third string pg (Lue,Bobby Jackson)


Pruitt is already gone.



Really? I was without the internet for about 9 days.


Lucky you. Yeah, the C's didn't pick up his option on August 1.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#23 » by Dogen » Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:42 pm

sully00 wrote:I don't really like the idea of 2 year deal for Boston, I like Davis and think he is going to be a solid rotation player but his value to the team is going to be highest 3 years from now and then it will be contract time again.


The team doesn't have anyone under contract beyond that point. Right now, if you look around the NBA there aren't many players left with those old-time long contracts. I think when KG and Pierce are gone, that will be the end of the current era and who knows if Baby will fit into the planes beyond that point. Chances are we'll be looking for a starting PF at that point, and I don't think Baby is going to be that good, although I do think he's a great role player to have right now.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#24 » by boston02131 » Sat Aug 8, 2009 1:59 pm

well at least its over! Now DA can focus on Marquis and a back up PG.
Man this bench is gonna be crazy!

Vet PG/House
House/TA/Giddens
Daniels/ Walker/ Scal
Baby/ Sca/ WIllams
Sheed/ Baby
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#25 » by GregB » Sat Aug 8, 2009 2:59 pm

Our frontcourt is pretty freaking stacked.

KG/Baby/Scal
Perk/Sheed/Williams

Pretty scary when you think about what our frontcourt was against Orlando.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#26 » by Ben-N1ce » Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:48 pm

C's are a backup PG away from having the best team in the league if healthy IMO :D
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#27 » by Dogen » Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:07 pm

GregB wrote:Our frontcourt is pretty freaking stacked.

KG/Baby/Scal
Perk/Sheed/Williams

Pretty scary when you think about what our frontcourt was against Orlando.


Yeah, pretty much add KG, Sheed and Williams to that roster. I think the outcome might have ended up a little different.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#28 » by Dogen » Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:08 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:C's are a backup PG away from having the best team in the league if healthy IMO :D


MHO, too. Let's get JWill.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#29 » by Zin5 » Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:13 pm

Here's to hopefully two more years of throwing more kids into the stands instead of acting like a kid on the bench and pouting.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#30 » by Slartibartfast » Sat Aug 8, 2009 9:11 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:C's are a backup PG away from having the best team in the league if healthy IMO :D

Nah, we're the best as is. We have the most complete team of any contender. The Lakers are the closest (and they're very close), with great starters 2-5 and comparable frontcourt depth (though I'm happier with Baby/Scal/Williams than I would be with Powell/Mbenga), but the Fisher-Brown-Vujacic trio at the 1 is a big trouble spot for them.

The rest of the contenders all have even bigger holes. The Cavs still don't have a real PG or an ideal starting 2 guard to pair with Bron (West is limited, Moon is strictly an off-ball guy and Parker is thoroughly average) and their frontcourt, while massive and imposing, has severe mobility and versatility issues (Varejao can't shoot and thus makes for a tough pairing with Shaq, but Z and Shaq together would be slaughtered on D).

The Magic have an abundance of 3s in 4s bodies, but no real 4. Barnes, Anderson and Bass provide nice depth, but none of them are capable of starting for a championship team, while I think its pretty clear that Rashard Lewis is best-suited at the 3-position, at least against teams like Boston and L.A. with legit frontcourts.

The Spurs have very little frontcourt depth and spent all their assets on a pretty average small forward in Richard Jefferson. They boast a complete starting line-up with very good backcourt depth, but they suffer in qualitative comparisons with other contenders.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#31 » by JMillott » Sat Aug 8, 2009 10:45 pm

I think it'll come in at something near 2 years and 2.5-3.5 million a year.

My problem with re-signing Big Baby was that I think that is too much money to commit to him longterm with his questionable work ethic in terms of taking care of himself physically. I'm not against paying him in the Scalibrine range as long as its only a two year deal.

If it was four years at anything over 2.5 million a year I wouldn't have liked it. We've got two years of evidence showing that he can be the 4th bigman for a contender/championship team which is the role we needed to pay him for.

I think we've seen enough evidence to show that he isn't the 3rd big for a contender/championship team and he sure as hell isn't a starter although he can be a spot starter to cover for a shorterm injury.

The one thing I really don't like about this is that unless we can find a way to get Marquis Daniels in a sign and trade that we can say goodbye to Leon Powe....

I think that Leon Powe is the reason Danny Ainge is trying to preserve the BLE so that we aren't on the hook for more then the veteran minimum to keep him. It would give Powe his wanted second year as a player option and gives him at least some of the money he earned on his rookie contract without the Celtics having to take a big hit for a guy that will not be availible for at least 2-3 months of the season.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#32 » by ryaningf » Sun Aug 9, 2009 3:06 am

from: http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bask ... 3&srvc=rss

Glen Davis could sign a new contract with the Celtics [team stats] as early as tomorrow or Monday, according to a source close to negotiations between the restricted free agent and the team.

Davis agreed to a two-year contract worth approximately $6.3 million, including a starting point of approximately $3 million next season. He was here today, and may take a physical Monday before officially signing the deal.


Nice deal by the Cs--they get their 4th Big and Baby gets a reasonable contract. I've thought all along that he's worth at least 3 million per.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#33 » by campybatman » Sun Aug 9, 2009 3:47 am

This is the part of the article that caught my attention. Davis' agent knows that his client won't stand a chance if he hits free agency in 2010, so he'll wait until the year after that.



The Celtics, who backed off their request for a third year at a team option, also hope to wrap up business with free agent swingman Marquis Daniels by the end of next week, according to a league source.


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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#34 » by bballcool34 » Sun Aug 9, 2009 3:20 pm

6.3 million over 2 years according to the wiretap

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/61049/20090809/celtics_to_give_davis_$63m_over_two_years/

Glen Davis is expected to sign a two-year deal with the Celtics worth $6.3 million at the beginning of the week.

His starting salary for the 2009-10 season will be about $3 million, according to the Boston Herald.


Edit: Didn't see that it was posted two posts above me....
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#35 » by gocelts » Sun Aug 9, 2009 6:23 pm

This deal says alot. I'm assuming Danny couldnt work out a trade this offseason, so he simply signed who he could with Baby, Daniels, and Williams. With the Williams signing coming out of the blue, I also believe Danny has already looked at all his options in regards to minumum contract free agents by now...so, as far as the other team needs, Danny will simply move on with Scal & Tonys expirings, unloading them for help at next seasons trade deadline when they will have more value. Hopefully a point guard will be available by then.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#36 » by Dirty Water » Sun Aug 9, 2009 8:03 pm

Glad it got done. Finalize the Daniels deal and sign Lester Hudson and call it an offseason.

I think the whole backup PG thing is a non issue. You can have Daniels and House in there as the guards and if you don't trust either one with the ball just have Pierce or Ray Allen bring the ball up.
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#37 » by Avalanche » Sun Aug 9, 2009 9:11 pm

I'm happy to bring him back, he adds depth, insurance and strength to an already strong front court

the more we can reduce KG, Pierce, Ray and even Sheeds minutes during the season the better (while still winning of course) guys the caliber of Davis being your 4th big greatly increases that ability
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Post#38 » by GuyClinch » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:37 am

Good that it's only two years and a little more then Scal's deal. You cannot rely on BBD to not fatten himself up. The guy is a yo yo dieter. This way he will have incenttive to get himself into shape for next year as well. Even if he gains weight steadily the rest of this one..
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Re: Baby close to signing 2-year deal w/ C's 

Post#39 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:35 pm

GuyClinch wrote:Good that it's only two years and a little more then Scal's deal. You cannot rely on BBD to not fatten himself up. The guy is a yo yo dieter. This way he will have incenttive to get himself into shape for next year as well. Even if he gains weight steadily the rest of this one..


This was sort of my concern for giving him big money...he got in shape between rookie camp and the 2007-08 season, won a championship as a rookie, and came into 2008-09 in crap shape. He picked it up by the end of the year (boy did he) but he pulled a Shaq (playing your way into shape during the season)...and I don't like that...
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