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Post#1481 » by 76STholder » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:06 pm

I was at the Wachovia last night picking my seat for the coming year. There were still alot of good seats available including floor seats that had not been available for several years ($27K/year +).

Tom, do you know how the season ticket sales are going. I would suspect not too good.
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Post#1482 » by tmoore » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:34 pm

76STholder wrote:I was at the Wachovia last night picking my seat for the coming year. There were still alot of good seats available including floor seats that had not been available for several years ($27K/year +).

Tom, do you know how the season ticket sales are going. I would suspect not too good.


Don't have exact numbers, but they're down league-wide. David Stern came out last month and said not to be surprised if NBA attendance is down 10 percent from last season to this year. Season ticket-holders had to put their money up for 2008-09 before the economy went in the tank.
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Post#1483 » by 83SixersRocked » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:10 pm

I recall seeing the Miller comment at least attributed to Nate, though it may have been something 'somebody said'.

Miller's game isn't what it used to be, but I wouldn't call him mediocre. At one point early in his career (Cleveland) he was talked about in the press as arguably the best PG in the game. (I don't a link for that, it was pre-internet, at least at my house.)

Dr J isn't considered mediocre but you wouldn't run him out there right now. Overall, Miller is an above average PG whose age is starting to catch up with him. He's a veteran presence who still knows how to run a team, which should be valuable to Portland, and he'll probably help them win a few games that they wouldn't otherwise win. I'd expect more passing from him this year with Roy on the floor.
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Post#1485 » by Juannydawkins » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:14 am

Tom-

Could the Sixers have done nothing to land Ben Gordon? And did they try?

I know they're adament about not breaking up the nucleus, but when push
comes to shove, if you have a chance to get a balanced team where everyone
that has a chance to be great doesn't play the same 2 positions, certainly
you can get creative and keep the feel, but add.

Really curious if that was every a thought. I see contender if you have
some decent pg/gordon/iggy(or thad)/brand/daly as the starting 5
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Post#1486 » by tmoore » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:18 am

Juannydawkins wrote:Tom-

Could the Sixers have done nothing to land Ben Gordon? And did they try?

I know they're adamant about not breaking up the nucleus, but when push
comes to shove, if you have a chance to get a balanced team where everyone
that has a chance to be great doesn't play the same 2 positions, certainly
you can get creative and keep the feel, but add.

Really curious if that was every a thought. I see contender if you have
some decent pg/gordon/iggy(or thad)/brand/daly as the starting 5


The problem was the Bulls didn't want Miller (have Rose) or Iguodala (have Deng/Salmons). It would've had to have been a three-team deal and it's unclear who the Sixers would've had to give up. I'm not sure how interested the Sixers were in Gordon, but I like him and would've been willing to consider any and all alternatives to get a scorer and big-game player like him.
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Post#1487 » by tmoore » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:02 pm

Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.
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Post#1488 » by 76ciology » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:54 pm

tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.
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Post#1489 » by youngcrev » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:12 pm

crazylyf wrote:
tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.


Elton and Sam are both pretty good defenders.
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Post#1490 » by sixerswillrule » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:20 pm

And rebounders. I think we'll be fine up front, as long as we can stay healthy. We should also be better offensively now that Sam is the worst of the group there, which is a good thing.
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Post#1491 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:15 pm

Sam isn't that bad. God damn, do people think of him as a scrub? No, seriously is Sammy a scrub? He has limitations, there are some things he can't do. But there are things he can: Block shots, run the floor and give you an off-the-ball option.

Imagine M-16 at center, now if you can forgo defense, you might enjoy it. But you see, I like winning basketball games. So I wouldn't start M-16 at center. Lou is more prepared to play PG then M-16 is to play C.
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Post#1492 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:18 pm

crazylyf wrote:
tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.



Theo Ratliff gave us 15-20 MPG but why the hell did you put Evans name next to his discussion? Or did you not see how many useless fouls, out of position he was? Evans GAVE UP points. He gave up inside position. He was the worst player off the bench.

At least Ivey could shoot off the corner. What could Reggie Evans do? Cause a turnover or two?

You didn't just say Evans gives elite players a hard time, did you?
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Post#1493 » by wow444 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:40 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Sam isn't that bad. God damn, do people think of him as a scrub? No, seriously is Sammy a scrub? He has limitations, there are some things he can't do. But there are things he can: Block shots, run the floor and give you an off-the-ball option.

Imagine M-16 at center, now if you can forgo defense, you might enjoy it. But you see, I like winning basketball games. So I wouldn't start M-16 at center. Lou is more prepared to play PG then M-16 is to play C.


It is more about what Sam does than what he doesn't do. He passes and shoots when he shouldn't and knocks rebounds away from his team mates way too much and yes...he has played like a scrub the last 3 or 4 years.
Don't worry, that builds character and you can never have too much character...
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Post#1494 » by Wilfried » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:49 am

I'm dissapointed we didn't sign Ratliff again.
I was really happy with his performance in the play-offs. You could really see he has value as a defender and veteran. We could really have used him.

What will Brezec gives us besides a soft touch around the basket?

The Spurs (again) did a really good deal with Theo.
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Post#1495 » by Typeical » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:35 pm

I would definitely rather have theo ratliff than freaking brezec.
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Post#1496 » by corwin » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:17 pm

crazylyf wrote:
tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.


You know what else, this team doesn't have any semblance of an enforcer. Last year, Miller & Theo would give the hard foul if needed & Evans was always a player that other teams had to be concerned with because of his hyperactive, erratic play. Watch teams try to intimidate the likes of Kapono, Lou, & Young. Maybe that will be Ivey's role on the team.
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Post#1497 » by 83SixersRocked » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:03 pm

I think Brand can handle that. You dont want him going overboard to the extent that he's tossed from the game, but he's not above a hard foul (ie vs. Turiaf on youtube somewhere). I agree that It'd be nice to have a second option on that though.
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Post#1498 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:14 pm

youngcrev wrote:
crazylyf wrote:
tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.


Elton and Sam are both pretty good defenders.


Sorry, I fail to indicate that I was referring to our back-up guys like Jason Smith, Speight and Brezec.
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Post#1499 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:16 pm

Typeical wrote:I would definitely rather have theo ratliff than freaking brezec.

Me too :D I really like his defensive intensity during the Magic game. :D
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Post#1500 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:18 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:
crazylyf wrote:
tmoore wrote:Ed Stefanski said he believes the inside positions are the deepest on the roster, with starters Elton Brand and Samuel Dalembert, to go along with backups Marreese Speights, Jason Smith and (soon) Primoz Brezec. Thaddeus Young, a natural small forwards, can also play the "4" spot.


Deepest.. More of quantity than quality.

None of them are good rebounder and shot blockers and would only get raped with guys like Dwight and KG. I think we lack the frontcourt players like Theo or Evans, the guys who can give the elite frontcourt defenders a hard time scoring and this shall be a major indicators whether we can make it past 1st round or not.



Theo Ratliff gave us 15-20 MPG but why the hell did you put Evans name next to his discussion? Or did you not see how many useless fouls, out of position he was? Evans GAVE UP points. He gave up inside position. He was the worst player off the bench.

At least Ivey could shoot off the corner. What could Reggie Evans do? Cause a turnover or two?

You didn't just say Evans gives elite players a hard time, did you?


His energy and hustle on offense and defense GIVES elite PF/C players a hard time and really burns out the energy of opposing players.
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