Richardson trade talk

[shrink]

In the end, I think we just wind up with a player with similar size expiring and a late 1st or couple of 2nd rounders for our trouble. Of course, Kahn can surprise me.

yep, that's what I was thinking. I think this talk about players like Gay and so on is probably a pipe dream...but pipe dreams are fun too...

I think these types of players are more likely to be discussed closer to the trade deadline.

Personally, if Kahn turns Q-Rich into an unproductive expiring and a late 1st, I'm happy. I think every little asset is going to help when we make a bid for a star player on a big contract for our raw cap space "plus" package.

[shrink]

I worked on jballer's interesting deal, and came up with this:

Utah
In: 16.7 QRich + Atkins + Songalia + UTA 1st top 16 prot. returned
Out 19.2: Boozer + Harpring

Minny
In 20.1: Blount + Harpring + Daequan Cook + James Jones + MIA future lottery-protected 1st + TORs lottery protected 1st Rounder
Out: 16.7: QRich + Atkins + Songalia + UTA 1st

Miami
In 12.7: Boozer
Out 13.6.: Blount + Daequan Cook + James Jones + TOR lottery protected 1st Rounder + MIA future lottery-protected 1st Rounder

WHY FOR UTA?
They save $2.5 mil + $2.7 for Atkins, doubled for the lux, for a total of $10.4 mil. Songalia's contract doesn't hurt next season when they are under, and it matches the length of Kirilenko. Q-Rich and Songalia are both more productive than the worthless Harpring. In addition to the financial savings, they also reclaim the protected UTA pick.

WHY FOR MINNY?
They pay $3.4 up front, and take back $14.5 mil in worthless salary, but they add a future 1st. The UTA pick for TOR pick swap is about even, but they buy the MIA future 1st. Atkins moves Songalia's deal. They get a look at two prospects in Daequan Cook and James Jones. MIN buys out the injured Harpring and Blount, who averaged 4 PPG, 2 RPG last year.

WHY FOR MIA?
They add Boozer and don't bust over the lux. The two young prospects both had bad shooting seasons, and adding Boozer to JO means their going for a ring now. The MIA pick may be late, and the TOR pick provides UTA incentive to gain a player like Boozer while they ship out Blount's worthless deal.

[The J Rocka]

Lets get this done!

[GopherIt!]

Sorry Shrink, trading for 14.4M in expiring's we'd feel compelled to buy out doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Once we buy them out we lose flexibility to use those contracts to make/facilitate other deals. I'm not worried about moving Songalia. Looking at our roster I think he will be an asset on the court and in the locker room in the coming year. Plus I don't think it will be necessary to use Atkins to move him. If we need to, we could probably move him to a contending team for an expiring contract once we get closer to the trade deadline.

I like the idea of getting a pick for Atkins but I think we'd get more out of a team like New Orleans who is only 3.7M away from saving money on car insurance (and lux tax fees.) I think if we wait until Sept. 27th we may have a shot to do something like moving Atkins and Wilkins for Daniels/Wright and a pick.

[Worm Guts]

In the end, I think we just wind up with a player with similar size expiring and a late 1st or couple of 2nd rounders for our trouble. Of course, Kahn can surprise me.

yep, that's what I was thinking. I think this talk about players like Gay and so on is probably a pipe dream...but pipe dreams are fun too...

I'm thinking we only get back a different expiring. Any trade probably isn't much more than a favor to an agent. If we get more, great.