How about a early 53 man roster breakdown prediction?

[blueedwards]

I will gather my 53 man prediction in a little bit. Have to go get some lunch. Ill edit this post in a bit.

QB: Rodgers,Flynn,Brohm
HB:Grant,Jackson,Wynn,Sutton
FB:Hall,Johnson
WR:Driver,Jennings,Jones,Nelson,Martin
TE:Lee,Finley
OL:Spitz, Sitton,Clifton, Colledge,Wells, Meredith,Lang,Giacomini
DL:Pickett, Raji,Jenkins, Harrell,Montgomery, Jolly
LB:Bishop,Hawk,Barnett,Chillar,Kampman,Poppinga,Matthews,Thompson,Lansanah,Havner
CB:Harris,Woodson,Blackmon,Williams,Lee
S:Collins,Bigby,Smith,Rouse,Bush
K:Crosby
P:Brooks
LS:Jansen

I was thinking of having Kuhn dropped then add DE Wynn.

[LUKE23]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (4): Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB (2): Hall, Johnson
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (9): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Harrell, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Poppinga
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

[Newz]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (4): Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB (2): Hall, Johnson
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (9): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Harrell, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Poppinga
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

This is what I am hoping for.

[Ryan5UW]

This is what I am hoping for.

Yep, me too. Even if you're off on a player or two, I think you've got the numbers right on. I don't see them keeping 3 FBs, and I definitely can see them keeping an extra guy on the DL if it's down to 2 or 3 guys for the last spot. I think we saw last year how much trouble we can be in with a short rotation on the d-line, I don't see them putting the team in that situation again this year.

[Ill-yasova]

QB: Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
HB:Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB:Hall, Johnson
WR:Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin
TE:Lee, Finley
OL:Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Wells, Clifton, Colledge, Meredith, Lang, Giacomini
DL:Pickett, Raji, Jenkins, Harrell, Wynn, Montgomery, Jolly
LB:Bishop, Hawk, Barnett, Chillar, Kampman, Matthews, Thompson, Lansanah, Havner
CB:Harris, Woodson, Blackmon, Williams, Lee
S:Collins, Bigby, Smith, Rouse, Bush
K:Crosby
P:Brooks

Wells and Poppinga gone. Wells was the weakest link in run blocking last year and doesn't have the size to backup any other positions than C. Poppinga, from what I've read, has shown no natural ability cover in the short zone or rush the passer and is set to make (Breathing deeply to calm myself........and go) $4 Million this season while being stuck behing Kamp, Clay and Thompson.

Edit: Humphrey out for season, so I will grudgingly put Wells back in.

[Ayt]

Ill, Humprey is out for the year.

[Ill-yasova]

Ill, Humprey is out for the year.

Thanks. Slipped my mind.

[El Duderino]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (4): Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB (2): Hall, Johnson
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (9): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Harrell, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Poppinga
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

This is what I am hoping for.

A few i wonder about

Preston-- He had some struggles yesterday, from what i've read about camp he's been pretty bad, and Bills fans had little good to say about him. We have the cap space so i'd rather just keep Wells as the backup center for depth. That way if injuries hit the line, Spitz could be moved off center and play a guard spot if needed.

Poppinga-- What exactly does he bring to the table as a LB besides trying hard? I guess maybe for special teams reasons he could have some use, but i'd rather see a younger LB like Lansanah, Obiozor, or Sulak stick if any of them shows promise in camp.

Rouse-- He would have to show me that he has the mental capabilities to play safety in this scheme, has started to figure out tackling angles, and is willing to be very physical. All things he's struggled with. Peprah has less talent, but if in camp he is more reliable, i'll be curious to see what they do.

RB--- We look to have a number of guys who could prove to be worthy of that third RB job, but would McCarthy really keep 4 running backs? Given how McCarthy isn't that fond of sharing carries a lot, i can't see him keeping four backs on the roster. I think if Wynn stays healthy all preseason, it will be Grant/Jackson/Wynn and then one of Sutton/Lumpkin on the PS assuming one makes it through waivers.

TE-- I think it's 50/50 Ted will end up picking up a TE off waivers when all the final cuts around the league are made unless one of the remaining tight ends on the rosters surprises by being good enough to keep. That said, maybe they only keep Lee/Finley and stash a TE on the practice squad.

Harrell= IR

[humanrefutation]

I have this feeling in my guy that either Brandon Jackson or Deshawn Wynn is going to get cut. If Sutton and Lumpkin continue to perform well, I could see them giving one of those two a shot over Wynn or Jackson. Neither were that great during the first game. Hell, if you take out that 18 yd scamper by Jackson, he averaged 3.2 yards per carry. Not good.

[Ryan5UW]

We can probably eliminate Harrell from the list, especially if the guy thinks his career might be over.

[Ill-yasova]

I have this feeling in my guy that either Brandon Jackson or Deshawn Wynn is going to get cut. If Sutton and Lumpkin continue to perform well, I could see them giving one of those two a shot over Wynn or Jackson. Neither were that great during the first game. Hell, if you take out that 18 yd scamper by Jackson, he averaged 3.2 yards per carry. Not good.

If you take out the 20+ yard runs Barry Sanders had he probably would have averaged 3.0 ypc also. Point being, that's his thing, he's a quick back.

[Mags FTW]

BJ averaged 5.5 last year. I will be extremely disappointed if he is cut.

[ReasonablySober]

Zero chance he's cut.

[LUKE23]

Grant and Jackson are locks, then it comes down to whether they want to keep 3 or 4 halfbacks. IMO, Lumpkin is screwed. It will be either Wynn, or Wynn and Sutton.

With Harrell going down and Wynn's play, Jarius Wynn is a lock on the DL. The guy I kind of like that I am wondering on is Brad Jones, the LB. Guy can fly. Undersized at 239 pounds, but would like to see him get a shot.

I think we are really deep at LB this year (Matthews/Barnett/Hawk/Kampman/Bishop/Chillar/Thompson/Poppinga/Jones). Do they keep 9? We'll see. I think Poppinga's roster spot is in trouble.

[blueedwards]

Yeah I forgot about adding a long snapper. lol So Kuhn needs to be scratched off my depth chart for Jansen.

[ReasonablySober]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (4): Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB (2): Hall, Johnson
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (9): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Harrell, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Poppinga
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

This was more or less how I saw it after week one.

Now I'm starting to think we need all the defensive front seven and OL we can hoard.

I think I'm fine with three RBs and stashing someone on the PS. I don't care if it's Wynn, Sutton or Lumpkin. It's a position with a lot of similar talent around the NFL and I think we can keep at least one in the organization.

I know it's unlikely, but it would be great to get a fullback on the PS as well and only keep one on the 53. I like Hall, but if it's him or a fringe OLB, OT or OLB he's got to go.

I'd keep Harris or Heck before Martin, and I like Martin. But the fact is he's all but gone after this offseason so if you like either of the two young guys I'd be good with keeping them around provided they're willing to cover on special teams.

I'd rather have Moll or Wells before Preston.

I have no idea what to do about Harrell. IR I guess.

Obiozor and Jones have had their moments. Maybe one could get stashed on the PS but I'd like to keep both around.

Underwood should make the 53.

So if I were making changes to the 53 above

Out:
Wynn
Hall
Martin
Preston
Harrell

In:
Heckendorf (Sentimental choice. More likely Harris and stash Heck)
Wells
Moll
Jones (hope like hell Obiozor makes it to the squad)
Underwood

[Ill-yasova]

My only amendment to my original roster is that if Rouse is out long term I think Joe Porter has a decent chance of making the roster.

[Ayt]

I wonder what the deal is with Pat Lee. Its amazing how little he's shown for a 2nd rounder. I could see him getting stashed on IR for the year.

[El Duderino]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (4): Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton
FB (2): Hall, Johnson
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (9): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Harrell, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Poppinga
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

I think I'm fine with three RBs and stashing someone on the PS. I don't care if it's Wynn, Sutton or Lumpkin. It's a position with a lot of similar talent around the NFL and I think we can keep at least one in the organization.

Yea, no way i'd keep four backs. I'd personally keep Wynn as the 3rd RB so long as he stays healthy and put either Sutton/Lumpkin on the PS so long as at least one clears waivers. I'm fine also though with keeping say Sutton on the 53 and then putting one of Wynn/Lumpkin on the PS.

I know it's unlikely, but it would be great to get a fullback on the PS as well and only keep one on the 53. I like Hall, but if it's him or a fringe OLB, OT or OLB he's got to go.

I'm with you there especially given that it looks like McCarthy will be using lots of two TE sets. If we only kept one FB on the 53 and that guy got hurt during a game, it's not like it would cripple what McCarthy wanted to play call the rest of that game. That said, i think they'll keep both Johnson and Hall.

I'd keep Harris or Heck before Martin, and I like Martin. But the fact is he's all but gone after this offseason so if you like either of the two young guys I'd be good with keeping them around provided they're willing to cover on special teams.

I don't see that happening, especially some as raw as Heckendorf. Besides what Martin does at WR, i've heard McCarthy more than once rave about and value what a great blocker Ruvell is. The fact he'll be leaving the team next year i don't really see as that relevant. You have guys like Jake Allen, Harris, and Heckendorf, all of whom stand a good chance of clearing waivers. It's not like we are talking about major talents here. At most maybe one of Allen or Harris gets claimed, no chance Heckendorf does. If the Packers like the potential going forward of any of those three, they likely could stick that guy on the PS barring any of them having some fabulous preseason game from the next two. In case an injury or two hits at WR, i think McCarthy will want a vet like Martin on the 53, not some raw kid.

Obiozor and Jones have had their moments. Maybe one could get stashed on the PS but I'd like to keep both around.

Reading how well Jones did in the OTA's and the speed he showed Saturday, i think it's at least 50/50 that they won't want to risk waiving him. Obiozor hasn't showed me anything so far in games and i haven't heard any raves about him in practice, but it's not like i'm watching practice. One guy i hope at least gets to our PS is Lansanah. I think he has some ability, but is just a bit raw.

Preston-- I agree that he's done little to impress

Underwood-- I also hope he shows enough to stick. He's long, athletic, and doesn't look shy at all about sticking his nose in to tackle.

Harrell-- If we IR him, i think we can get by with only keeping six on the DL. So long as Raji can play both NT/DE, we should be able to survive with Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery unless someone else shows to much to risk waivers. Nobody so far seem to fit that prescription.

[crkone]

QB (3): Rodgers, Flynn, Brohm
RB (3): Grant, Jackson, Wynn
TE (2): Finley, Lee
WR (5): Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Martin
OL (10): Clifton, Colledge, Spitz, Sitton, Barbre, Lang, Meredith, Giacomini, Preston, Wells

DL (7): Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, Jolly, Wynn, Montgomery, Toribio
LB (8): Matthews, Barnett, Hawk, Kampman, Chillar, Bishop, Thompson, Havner
DB (10): Woodson, Harris, Collins, Bigby, Williams, Smith, Lee, Blackmon, Rouse, Bush

P (1): Kapinos
K (1): Crosby
LS (1): Jansen

Havner is our utility player so he can backup both TE and LB. Great having a player like that, especially since he is a ST beast.