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Maybe AI will come off the bench?

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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#21 » by Dave_From_NB » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:19 pm

sully00 wrote:I have never understood those that question AI's intentions or heart that is just people who are plain hating or just don't know the dudes game.


IMO if he cared much about winning, we'd be hearing comments from him that he'll do whatever role the team needs him to do, that he's looking for the team that will give him the best chance to win a championship, that practice is important because you help develop your teammates, that defense wins championships, etc.. I don't disagree that he needs the ball in his hands to be effective, but that same 1 ball that is there for the starters is also used for the 2'nd unit, and given that the opposition second unit is likely not as effective offensively or defensively then at this point in his career that could really work for him.

If the dude would at least say something, even if he was lying through his teeth, that he was looking for a team that could help him win a championship, then I'd feel a bit different.
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#22 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:30 pm

AI is a loser, professionally and personally...I don't even want him handing Gatorade to our guys on the bench, let alone on the team! He was super-selfish as a starter, why would he be better off the bench?
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#23 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:11 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:I don't even want him handing Gatorade to our guys on the bench


Don't worry, he isn't after Tony Allen's job.
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#24 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:03 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
MyInsatiableOne wrote:I don't even want him handing Gatorade to our guys on the bench


Don't worry, he isn't after Tony Allen's job.


:lol: TA is so stupid he can't even do *that* right...AI would be an upgrade :lol: :lol:
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#25 » by Dirty Water » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:30 pm

Everytime I see this thread I keep thinking "Al" as in "Big Al" and subsequently get my hopes up.
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#26 » by aboubata » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:33 pm

I think Iverson should go to Toronto. He will be a good starter with Jose as his backup who could could play along his side 10 minutes.
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#27 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:46 pm

Ghost of the Garden wrote:Everytime I see this thread I keep thinking "Al" as in "Big Al" and subsequently get my hopes up.


Same here...if only... 8-)
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Re: Maybe AI will come off the bench? 

Post#28 » by sully00 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:38 pm

Dave_From_NB wrote:
sully00 wrote:I have never understood those that question AI's intentions or heart that is just people who are plain hating or just don't know the dudes game.


IMO if he cared much about winning, we'd be hearing comments from him that he'll do whatever role the team needs him to do, that he's looking for the team that will give him the best chance to win a championship, that practice is important because you help develop your teammates, that defense wins championships, etc.. I don't disagree that he needs the ball in his hands to be effective, but that same 1 ball that is there for the starters is also used for the 2'nd unit, and given that the opposition second unit is likely not as effective offensively or defensively then at this point in his career that could really work for him.

If the dude would at least say something, even if he was lying through his teeth, that he was looking for a team that could help him win a championship, then I'd feel a bit different.


What team? He doesn't have a team. Ask yourself this do you think next season Ray Allen is going to be looking for whatever role some contender wants him to fill? I am sure Ray is going to be as thrilled as Rip Hamilton, Grant HIll and Iverson are about coming off the bench.

The "second unit" concept is overrated, it isn't lines like hockey even with Doc. Iverson would have to fit into significantly more roles coming off the bench depending on who he subs for especially since he isn't a pure 1 or 2. In reality Boston, because of its effort to fit Eddie House into its rotation would be one of the places Iverson would fit in off the bench but most places it will be a struggle.

The other issue is that not everyone can succeed coming off the bench, Iverson is a volume shooter, it doesn't make him a bad shooter but he needs to put up shots to be successful, when you play 36 mins and start 0-5 it isn't a big deal in 20 mpg it is deadly. We have already seen former stars fail in this role in Boston.

I really don't have a problem with AI hanging it up or going overseas instead of doing the GP in Miami thing. If that is how he was to win a title it means nothing to his career, it would just be personal satisfaction and it just doesn't drive him.

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