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Post#1 » by cedric76 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:11 pm

a the 1st big of the bench ,and hopefully 1 of saunders favorite

how do u predict his stats this next season?

10pt 6 reb 1 stl 1.2 blk?
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Post#2 » by DaRealHibachi » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:05 pm

15pts 7 reb 2ast 1.5blk
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Post#3 » by FreeBalling » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:45 pm

Blatche is primed and ready for a break out year. I could see him getting 12pts, 9.9 boards, 3ast, 1.8 blocks 4 fouls.
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Post#4 » by miller31time » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:48 pm

8pts
5rebs
2asts
18mins

Nothing spectacular but very solid for a role player.
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Post#5 » by LyricalRico » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:52 pm

Not sure if you can guage his growth by stats this year. IMO the key is whether or not he's consistent. Can you depend on that 8/5 every night or does he get 4/1 one night and 12/9 the next? Does he play like a smart big man or a reckless guard? Can he avoid silly fouls? Those are the real keys to show that he's maturing as a player.
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Post#6 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:42 pm

20pts
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3blk
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Post#7 » by Hoopalotta » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:22 pm

With "Wizards in the Media" and "blatche" threads right up at the top of the forum after I woke up just now, I had a sudden feeling of dread.... :-?

But anyway, I think the Miller prognostication is more like it: how's he going to have a statistical breakout year when he needs to fill a role on a team loaded with scorers? Just getting over 20 minutes a night in this rotation would be a great accomplishment.

And the point by Rico on consistency is key, though I think it's more a matter of consistent effort and attention rather than consistent statistical production. Even if we look at the absolute rock steady vet bench guys across the league, their scoring or rebounding tallies can fluctuate greatly on a night by night basis.

I would dig up some random monthly game logs to back that up, but I don't have the time just now.
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Post#8 » by crackhed » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:26 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:With "Wizards in the Media" and "blatche" threads right up at the top of the forum after I woke up just now, I had a sudden feeling of dread.... :-?

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Post#9 » by dlts20 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:25 am

Yeah, Im not going to judge anyone by numbers this year. You can just watch and tell if theyre playing well. I have always said that people were too hard on our young guys and they will all look 10x better with Gil on the floor with them. We should be fully healthy this year but I still dont know how much the young backups will get to play with Gil. Maybe Foye can also make Blatche & Young look alot better. I just think our team changed so much the last couple of years that the young guys couldnt look good. They always got suspect minutes and were always benched when they did something wrong. Then they played in a O with no PG and we were basically forced to be a straight slow down half court team when were really an all out running team. Because of that they really couldnt do anything but go one on one. The only way our young guys could score is on there own. It should be alot easier for them this year with playmakers around them and us playing uptempo. I also think this system just flat out fits them better, espically NY
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Post#10 » by JonathanJoseph » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:09 am

13/8/2/1/1 46% fg
25 min/gm

Flip will have a tremendous impact on Blatche. Blatche is clearly someone who responds to positive reinforcement (his superior numbers as a starter for example) and Flip (and Sam I Am) have been playing to that.
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Post#11 » by queridiculo » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:27 am

Self admitted Blatche hater here. I think the only thing Blatche will prove to us this year is that he has neither the mental makeup nor the heart to be a consistent performer in this league.

He'll continue to tease Wizards fans with potentials while continuing with his dumb fouls and driving people insane with his inability to finish around the basket.

He's a lost cause as far as I am concerned.

7/4, 15mpg.
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Post#12 » by Paulomanv8 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:17 am

I see Blatche being 2nd man off the bench, averaging 11 and 8 .. and playing notably better defense
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Post#13 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:22 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:13/8/2/1/1 46% fg
25 min/gm

Flip will have a tremendous impact on Blatche. Blatche is clearly someone who responds to positive reinforcement (his superior numbers as a starter for example) and Flip (and Sam I Am) have been playing to that.

I think you could be closest to right about Blatche's numbers under Flip.

I think Blatche will be playing some minutes at PF that used to be solely Jamison's.
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Post#14 » by Wizardspride » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:25 am

hermitkid wrote:Self admitted Blatche hater here. I think the only thing Blatche will prove to us this year is that he has neither the mental makeup nor the heart to be a consistent performer in this league.

He'll continue to tease Wizards fans with potentials while continuing with his dumb fouls and driving people insane with his inability to finish around the basket.

He's a lost cause as far as I am concerned.

I'm not ready to give up on a 6-11 22 year old with some intriguing skills.

But maybe thats just me.....

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Post#15 » by crackhed » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:58 am

hermitkid wrote:Self admitted Blatche hater here. I think the only thing Blatche will prove to us this year is that he has neither the mental makeup nor the heart to be a consistent performer in this league.

He'll continue to tease Wizards fans with potentials while continuing with his dumb fouls and driving people insane with his inability to finish around the basket.

He's a lost cause as far as I am concerned.

7/4, 15mpg.

sometimes i feel like u do, but its not a bad idea to give andray a bit more time to 'figure' it out. look how long it took for haywood to get consistent. it takes big men a little while sometimes, and his potential is tremendous. maybe a new coach will be the difference, and flip is a more traditional student of the game than ej was.
flip is already doing something that is very important.. teaching andray to respect the game.
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Post#16 » by DaRealHibachi » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:58 am

^^^True...

And lets not forget that Dray is a second round, 49th overall pick... I mean he's already better than allot of players drafted around that position...

I'll would keep him around at least until his contract is over... He's here on the cheap anyway...
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Post#17 » by jholmbe1 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:18 am

Not a whole lot interesting here but Blatche was interviewed by the Wiz blog recently. It could all be lip service and I have said it before, but I really think this is the year it all comes together for him...

WashingtonWizards.Com: You elected to play on the Wizards Summer league team. What was your motivation behind that decision?
Andray Blatche: I used Summer League mainly as conditioning and on learning the new system that Flip (Saunders) is installing.

WW.Com: You have spent a lot of time working with the coaches this off-season. What have you been focusing on in those individual workouts?
AB: We have been focusing on being aggressive on defense, conditioning and also on my low post moves.

WW.Com: In several interviews you’ve talked about your relationship with the new staff. What is it about Flip Saunders that has made this transition so easy?
AB: He has helped me a lot. He has really helped me build up my confidence and I play much better when I’m confident. He just always gives me positive feedback and it boosts me and makes me work harder.

WW.Com: Training camp is just over one month away. What are your goals heading into camp?
AB: I’m looking for a great camp and a great season.

WW.Com: You have had the opportunity to work and play with a lot of your teammates this summer. Do you have any predictions on a player that is going to have a breakout season?
AB: In general, I think the whole team is ready to breakout. I think we are going to shock a lot of people and get deep into the playoffs.

WW.Com: Just last week, the team signed Fabricio Oberto. What were your thoughts when you heard about the signing?
AB: I was very excited when I found out they were going to sign him. He’s a hard worker. He’s very aggressive. He’s a good defender. He knows the game really well so I think it was a very good signing on our behalf.

WW.Com: Summer is a chance for a lot of players to get away from basketball for a little bit, did you have the opportunity to take a trip this summer?
AB: I actually just came from Jamaica. I just had a basketball camp over in Jamaica in Kingston. After that I came right back home.


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Post#18 » by verbal8 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:28 am

The stats I would look at to see how Blatche is performing this year are Rebounds, Blocks, FG%, FTAs and turnovers. Some assists and points would be nice, but should not be his focus. I am not saying he should try to turn into Dennis Rodman or Michael Ruffin, but with the Wizards loaded in the backcourt, he needs to step up as a post presence.

I think he could help the Wizards a lot more averaging 8 pts and 8 rebs than he would averaging 14 and 5 if he is shooting a low percentage and turning the ball over.
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Post#19 » by Brenice » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:32 pm

I don't think Blatche is ready yet to be a go-to scorer on a consistent basis. The good thing is Washington doesn't need him to be. What they need from him consistently is defense, rebounding, and agression on the offensive end, putting himself in position to score off of passes around the basket.
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Post#20 » by WizarDynasty » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:33 pm

Its always going to be about blatche's poor stamina and poor vertical when jumping and hustling for defensive rebounds. He says he is in good shape but it always shows up late in the game when he doesn't have the extra burst to grab a board or the enery to outleap another post player for that game changing rebound. His vertical and late game stamina battling for rebounds.
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