TT '09 - DEAD Thread

[vincecarter4pres]

Improve the Bulls, upgrade the PF and C, try to get a bench scorer, SG/SF.

Trade 1: Chicago LA Clippers
Chicago Outgoing:
Brad Miller
Taj Gibson
1st round pick, lotto protected

LAC Outgoing:
Chris Kaman
Ricky Davis

Why?
It gives Chicago a young, legit 7 foot pivot. He is a good shotblocker and rebounder and has a nice low post game. Not terribly athletic, not unathletic, he can run the floor ok, but is more of a half court guy, so he brings that skill as well. He is coming off injury that saw him miss more then half the season, but one must wonder if that was because LAC was in full tank mode by the time that he actually was able to return.
They lose one of their rookies, but he was a late pick and a slight reach where they took him. After the trades, he won't be as needed anyway and you have to give to get. They send out a first rounder as well, but it will likely be just a decent early 20's pick.

For LAC, it clears Kaman's contract while bringing back a solid vet, who is admittedly somewhat over the hill, but can certainly compete as he showed in the playoffs. He can play either power position, so he can back Griffin as well, so that Jordan still gets minutes with Camby in the rotation. He is also a very good on and off court mentor for Jordan. They also pick up a likely late 1st rounder and another young big man with some promise in Taj Gibson. Ricky is filler.
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5226578


Trade 2: Chicago/Phoenix
Chicago Outgoing:
Tyrus Thomas
Kirk Hinrich
James Johnson
Jerome Jordan

Phoenix Outgoing:
Amar'e Stoudamire
Leandro Barbosa

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5226582

Why?
This is what completes the rebuild of Chicago into a contender. They get a big time big man at a discount due to injury concern and the fact he is a flight risk after this season. They still ante up value though. Tyrus Thomas finally started coming into his own last season and James Johnson will be one of the steals of this draft in my humble opinion. They swap Hinrich for Barbosa to get Chicago their bench scorer, although he is a PG/SG, not a SG/SF, but the value is quite solid overall so it is hard to turn down.

For Phoenix, they finally move Amar'e after much speculation as to his destination or if he is to be traded at all. He has been linked to the Bulls in a few different rumors with Ty Thomas being the centerpiece of the deal. They have also had been rumored to like Hinrich.
One thing is also for sure, they loved James Johnson and were flip flopping on him or Clark predraft, even admitted by Kerr and Co. in an official youtube video interview a couple days before the draft. In this deal, they now have both their coveted and diverse big men for the present and future. Both have the complete ability to play the 3 or 4, a nice bit of interchangeability.
Hinrich helps and they remain competitive, he can cover for the absolute liability on defense who is known as Steve Nash.

Edit: Sorry for the edit, it was immediately done though and I didn't change anything, just forgot to finish my explanation.

Overall finished product for Chicago:
The lineup would look like this:
PG Rose/Barbosa/Pargo
SG Salmons/Barbosa
SF Deng/Salmons/Ricky Davis(If he isn't cut)
PF Amar're/Noah/FA signing
C Kaman/Noah

That looks like a balanced lineup that is going to contend in the short and long term. A mix of vets and youth, but even the vets are no older then 27 to 30. Amar'e should work very well with Rose and even more importantly with Kaman. Kaman is low post, Amar'e is high post and a cutter/pick and roller. Salmons is a mid range and slasher, Rose, is, well, Rose. Deng gets out an runs and plays solid D, plus he rebounds, Amar'e runs as well, so can Salmons and Kaman to an extent.
They would need to sign one or two players, but just for depth, not for any important minutes, sans an unforeseen injury.

[Trader_Joe]

Sorry Euch, sorry VC4P...

Was in TX last week for work, and now I'm in RI this week for vacation.

I thought I was going to be online more..... but this is the first I've been online in a while and seen of this, so I'm going to have to default.

Good luck VC4P... go Nets fam!

[SW567]

Damn, sorry guys. I got home a lot later than I thought I would, so I don't really have time to go all out on this like I wanted to. I guess I'll just post my trade sans explanation.

Miami gets Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton, Mardy Collins
LA Clippers get Jermaine O'Neal, Dorell Wright, Yakhouba Diawara, Miami's 2010 1st round pick (top 3 protected)

[ecuhus1981]

FIRST-ROUND ASSIGNMENTS

Each pairing below will go head to head with their challenge. The person who has the higher average score will advance. Anyone on the team you are given is eligible, EXCEPT for players that cannot be traded (recently acquired/matched/signed etc.). Players who are listed as “off-limits” or “unlikely to be traded” (U2BT) may negatively influence feasibility scores, if they are traded.


ASSIGNMENT # 1: vincecarter4pres (1) vs. Trader_Joe (16)
Improve the Bulls

Chicago Outgoing: Brad Miller, Taj Gibson, 1st round pick, lotto protected
LAC Outgoing: Chris Kaman, Ricky Davis

I wouldn’t mind seeing Brad flipped to a 3rd team who needs him and can give a SG/SF, but I like it overall. Miller and Camby could mentor Jordan and Griffin on both sides of the court, and Taj seems like an ideal 3rd banana in that long-term frontcourt rotation. The extra 1st gets a bit pricey for CHI, but they aren’t the only suitors for Kaveman. I have to be honest, though: you should’ve quite while you were ahead. As good as the 1st deal is, the 2nd one is its polar opposite. I don’t believe PHX will bring in a 28yo PG to take the reins from Nash. If you look at what GSW was willing to give for STAT (Biedrins/Brandan/Belinelli), the CHI package pales in comparison. And that’s without accounting for Barbosa. I don’t feel right taking points away from what you had earned in the 1st trade (even though they are both part of your proposal…), but rest assured that the 2nd one didn’t do you ANY favors.
ORIGINALITY - 8
FEASIBILITY - 6
EFFECTIVENESS - 6

Trader_Joe is DQ, vincecarter4pres advances.


ASSIGNMENT # 2: ws26 (8) vs. mikero (9)
Shed the Nets’ ’10 Salary

Nets get: Antonio Daniels, Nathan Jawai, future 2nd rounder
Nets trade: Eduardo Najera, Keyon Dooling

Not bad. The biggest problem is that NOH’s rail-thin frontcourt cannot withstand losing Armstrong, without replacing him with someone better. And DAL seek more out of a G-Buck deal, so those two might be better of removed. Pretty ho-um overall.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 5
EFFECTIVENESS – 6

New Jersey Outgoing: Alston, Dooling, Najera, 2nd round pick
Incoming: Camby, Davis

I don’t think the Nets can afford to lose two PGs without getting one back. Also, this is nothing short of a kick in the gonads for PHI. I don’t even think they’d take a one-year rental on an All-Star PG for Thad, let alone add a Lou-for-Najera/2nd swap. LAC doesn’t need Williams AND Dooling, with Davis, Gordon and Telfair able to set up the offense.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

mikero advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 3: legacyinthemakin89c (5) vs. N.O.R.E. (12)
Rearrange the Warriors’ Payroll

Warriors Trade: Stephen Jackson, Speedy Claxton, Warriors own 2010 and 2012 Second round picks
Warriors Receive: Nazr Mohammed, Julian Wright, Morris Peterson

This seems too punitive for the Warriors. S-Jax is no model of efficiency, but contributes positively on both ends of the floor. For 20/5/6, his $8mil salary is only a minor nuisance. And the Warriors give two 2nd-rounders??? Also, I could see Vlad Rad at least getting some PT from Nellie, but not Nazr “poor-man’s Turiaf” Mohammed. So, that would have been a smarter choice from CHA. But more importantly, how do the Bobcats turn an ’11 expiring into Claxton and those 2 2nds??? Nazr couldn’t even net a regular ’10 expiring, let alone Speedy’s 80%-insured deal. Charlotte’s presence in this deal is wholly unnecessary.
ORIGINALITY - 5
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

Warriors Trade: B.Wright, S-Jax, Maggette, Law, George, Claxton, $3 million
Receive: NYK 2010 1st (top 3 protected), AK, Peja, Fesenko, D.Brown

Well, the first problem is that the deal doesn’t work, right now. I can avert my eyes to Speedy and Acie, since their restrictions wear off next week, but Devean (9/30) is another matter. However, the deal would work without George altogether, if Fesenko’s 870K contract were acquired in a separate transaction with the 800K Crawford TPE (it’s within $100K). Secondly, UTA can’t trade the NYK pick until after the season (due to restrictions on the 1st they sent to MIN), and wouldn’t do so in this deal even if they could.
ORIGINALITY - 8
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 6

N.O.R.E. advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 4: sammydavis (4) vs. Finger Roll (5)
Find a Home for Camby

LAC out: Camby, Kaman, R.Davis, M.Collins
LAC in: J.Howard, K.Brown, JJ Barea, S.Williams, '11 LAC 2nd returned (from DET)

I am higher than Deandre than most, but there is no rush to hand him the reins. LAC should look to move one of Camby or Kaman IMO; likely Camby, but not both. Otherwise, it’s big and fair-ish, although not exactly uncharted waters around the T&T boards.
ORIGINALITY - 3
FEASIBILITY - 7
EFFECTIVENESS – 8

Finger Roll is DQ. sammydavis advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 5: RTM (3) vs. ClipperDomination (14)
Find a Home for Boozer

Golden State Sends: Brandon Wright, Kelenna Azubuike, Speedy Claxton, 3 Million Cash
Golden State Receives: Carlos Boozer

“Amare-lite”, as you’ve described, is exactly how I see this deal. I can see Carlos fitting in well with most of the GSW core. If this is the best deal both teams can manage, it wouldn’t be all bad.
ORIGINALITY - 8
FEASIBILITY - 6
EFFECTIVENESS - 7

Utah Trades: Carlos Boozer, 2009 2nd Round Pick
Utah Receives: Gerald Wallace, Dontell Jefferson

CHA probably isn’t going to trade Crash, or move Diaw out of the PF spot, even for an All-Star. UTA isn’t going to “sweeten” a Boozer deal.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 4
EFFECTIVENESS - 4

RTM advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 6: Sterncohen (6) vs. mhd (11)
Rearrange the Hornets’ Payroll
Off-Limits: Paul/West

IN: Francisco Garcia ($5.80M), Dan Gadzuric ($6.75M), 2010 and 2011 Milwaukee 2nd's, $2M cash from Milwaukee - total $12.55M in salaries, partially offset by the $2M cash
OUT: Morris Peterson ($5.99M), Antonio Daniels ($6.60M), Devin Brown ($1.11M) - total $13.70M

There’s an awful lot going on in this proposal, but the end result is not dramatic for the Hornets. It would have made more sense to send Bell (along with an expiring big like Elson) from MIL instead of the useless and costlier Gadzuric, especially when this deal leaves CP3 and Collison as NOH’s only true ball-handlers. SAC likes Garcia, and it would at least take one of NOH’s 2nds to pry him if they’re still going to pay MoPete for two years.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 5
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

Hornets trade: 1) Peja 2) Antonio Daniels (expiring)
for:
1) Redd 2) Elson (expiring)

Too sweet for NOH, and it doesn’t really solve their cap crunch, as AD might be 80%-covered by insurance. If the Bucks move Redd, it’ll be for ’10 expirings and youth, not… this.
ORIGINALITY - 5
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 3

sterncohen advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 7: Poopdamoop (7) vs. eitanr (10)
Shed the Knicks’ ’10 Salary

New York trades: Chris Duhon, Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, 3 million in cash, 2010 2nd rounder, future second round pick
New York receives: Dan Gadzuric, Luke Ridnour, Matt Harpring, Kyle Korver, 6.1 million dollar TPE

First, ORL can find better uses for $12mil (they’re in the lux, you know) than a backup PG. Moving Chris doesn’t do anything for their 2010 outlook either, so that portion should’ve been scratched. UTA and MIL use this deal like a check cashing store; I’m not sure the temporary relief outweighs the long-term grief.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 5
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

Kings Trade: Andres Nocionni, Kenny Thomas
Knicks Trade: Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, and 2010 2nd Rd Pick

There’s not enough enough incentive here for SAC to play along and help a 2010 FA rival unload $11mil in post-’10 salary. Also, Andres is overpaid, but we know he can play at a solid level. Eddy and Jared? Not so much. You have the right idea as to how to relieve the Knicks cap pressure, but there isn’t a lot of value in the Knicks’ pair, and SAC is not the right partner.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 3

poopdamoop advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 8: KiDdFrESh (2) vs. SW567 (15)
Improve the Heat

Miami trades: PF Udonis Haslem, SF Dorrel Wright, Future 1st Round Pick (via Miami)
Heat recieve: PF Carlos Boozer

Well, it’s not a bad bargain buy for the Heat, but Riley has flat-out stated his disinterest in trading for Boozer. Also, I do not believe that a Beasley-Boozer-O’neal frontcourt is conducive to wins. They become the Jazz of the east, with three PFs starting and not enough interior defense to go around.
ORIGINALITY - 4
FEASIBILITY - 3
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

Miami gets Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton, Mardy Collins
LA Clippers get Jermaine O'Neal, Dorell Wright, Yakhouba Diawara, Miami's 2010 1st round pick (top 3 protected)

I know you were short on time, but either Camby or Kaman should have been flipped to a 3rd team. I’m not thrilled about Al and Michael in the same frontcourt, but it’s good value for the Heat. LAC would need Diawara upgraded to Cook, IMO.
ORIGINALITY - 6
FEASIBILITY - 4
EFFECTIVENESS - 6

SW567 advances.

[N.O.R.E.]

Great trade IMO RTM, it's low risk and could give the Warriors another "we believe" type run, if the fans fall for it again of course.
Great value for Utah too, I don't even think the $3 million is necessary though.

[vincecarter4pres]

Thanks for the scoring, I was going to ask if all judges could still score my deals even though I won by default. Not the way I wanted to win though, but I understand Trader, sometimes real life gets in the way of this damn thing we call the internet, or other identity, lol.

[ecuhus1981]

Do the judges need more time? Should we just take my scores and declare winners based off of that???

Also, if any judges would like to make the 2nd-round assignments, speak up now.

[dockingsched]

working on my scores right now.

[dockingsched]

my way of judging:

originality: 7 if its something new, 5 if its been seen. sometimes the trade that we've all seen is the one that makes the most sense, i don't want to punish people that go that route.

feasiblity: 10 if it works, 5 if it works but its not realistic either cause of number of teams/players or some other circumstance, 0 if it doesn't work. that simple

effectiveness: this is where i'll be changing up a bit, so if i'm inconsistent, its not on purpose and i apologize in advance.

FIRST-ROUND ASSIGNMENTS

Each pairing below will go head to head with their challenge. The person who has the higher average score will advance. Anyone on the team you are given is eligible, EXCEPT for players that cannot be traded (recently acquired/matched/signed etc.). Players who are listed as “off-limits” or “unlikely to be traded” (U2BT) may negatively influence feasibility scores, if they are traded.


ASSIGNMENT # 1: vincecarter4pres (1) vs. Trader_Joe (16)
Improve the Bulls

Chicago Outgoing: Brad Miller, Taj Gibson, 1st round pick, lotto protected
LAC Outgoing: Chris Kaman, Ricky Davis

i like it, not sure kaman makes them good enough to sacrifice their 2010 plan, but it does make them better.
ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 6



ASSIGNMENT # 2: ws26 (8) vs. mikero (9)
Shed the Nets’ ’10 Salary

Hornets get: Antonio Daniels, Nathan Jawai, future 2nd rounder
Nets trade: Eduardo Najera, Keyon Dooling

i don't think the hornets are a team you want to trade with if youre looking to dump 2010 salary, they aren't exactly in a position to throw around money.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS – 5

New Jersey Outgoing: Alston, Dooling, Najera, 2nd round pick
Incoming: Camby, Davis

i don't see any motivation for the clips to dump camby for this.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 3



ASSIGNMENT # 3: legacyinthemakin89c (5) vs. N.O.R.E. (12)
Rearrange the Warriors’ Payroll

Warriors Trade: Stephen Jackson, Speedy Claxton, Warriors own 2010 and 2012 Second round picks
Warriors Receive: Nazr Mohammed, Julian Wright, Morris Peterson

im struggling to see what this does for the warriors.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 4

Warriors Trade: B.Wright, S-Jax, Maggette, Law, George, Claxton, $3 million
Receive: NYK 2010 1st (top 3 protected), AK, Peja, Fesenko, D.Brown

a trade this size isn't getting a 10 from me in feasibility. other than that, it seems to rearrange money without too big of a talent level change, but man its a lot of players.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 5
EFFECTIVENESS - 5





ASSIGNMENT # 4: sammydavis (4) vs. Finger Roll (5)
Find a Home for Camby

LAC out: Camby, Kaman, R.Davis, M.Collins
LAC in: J.Howard, K.Brown, JJ Barea, S.Williams, '11 LAC 2nd returned (from DET)

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS – 3

the clips are left with a terrible froncourt. terrible.




ASSIGNMENT # 5: RTM (3) vs. ClipperDomination (14)
Find a Home for Boozer

Golden State Sends: Brandon Wright, Kelenna Azubuike, Speedy Claxton, 3 Million Cash
Golden State Receives: Carlos Boozer

value looks good.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 7

Utah Trades: Carlos Boozer, 2009 2nd Round Pick
Utah Receives: Gerald Wallace, Dontell Jefferson

i'm leaning to utah wanting a little more salary relief when they trade boozer.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 6




ASSIGNMENT # 6: Sterncohen (6) vs. mhd (11)
Rearrange the Hornets’ Payroll
Off-Limits: Paul/West

IN: Francisco Garcia ($5.80M), Dan Gadzuric ($6.75M), 2010 and 2011 Milwaukee 2nd's, $2M cash from Milwaukee - total $12.55M in salaries, partially offset by the $2M cash
OUT: Morris Peterson ($5.99M), Antonio Daniels ($6.60M), Devin Brown ($1.11M) - total $13.70M

i don't really like when there's a bunch of 2nd's thrown in there for no reason. gotta dock some points.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

Hornets trade: 1) Peja 2) Antonio Daniels (expiring)
for:
1) Redd 2) Elson (expiring)

redd is so much better than peja

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 2




ASSIGNMENT # 7: Poopdamoop (7) vs. eitanr (10)
Shed the Knicks’ ’10 Salary

New York trades: Chris Duhon, Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, 3 million in cash, 2010 2nd rounder, future second round pick
New York receives: Dan Gadzuric, Luke Ridnour, Matt Harpring, Kyle Korver, 6.1 million dollar TPE

too much going on for a 10 in feasiblity.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 5
EFFECTIVENESS - 6

Kings Trade: Andres Nocionni, Kenny Thomas
Knicks Trade: Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, and 2010 2nd Rd Pick

nocioni isn't that bad of a contract, not close.

ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 1




ASSIGNMENT # 8: KiDdFrESh (2) vs. SW567 (15)
Improve the Heat

Miami trades: PF Udonis Haslem, SF Dorrel Wright, Future 1st Round Pick (via Miami)
Heat recieve: PF Carlos Boozer

not original, but man is it effective.

ORIGINALITY - 5
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 8

Miami gets Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton, Mardy Collins
LA Clippers get Jermaine O'Neal, Dorell Wright, Yakhouba Diawara, Miami's 2010 1st round pick (top 3 protected)

value just isn't there for the clips imo. i usually don't value thornton all that much, but why is he even in this? wright/thornton don't seem to just complicate things.


ORIGINALITY - 7
FEASIBILITY - 10
EFFECTIVENESS - 5

[legacyinthemakin89c]

so me and nore are tied now, so now what? sudden death lol.

[mikero]

so me and nore are tied now, so now what? sudden death lol.

fight to the death.... gladiator style lol

[CellarDoor]

Sorry for the delay guys, going to get my judging in in the next hour or so.

[CellarDoor]

FIRST-ROUND ASSIGNMENTS

Since this is a head to head thing, i'm going to forgo assigning actual numbers and look at the trades based off the three criterion and vote for my winner.


ASSIGNMENT # 1: vincecarter4pres (1) vs. Trader_Joe (16)
Improve the Bulls

Chicago Outgoing: Brad Miller, Taj Gibson, 1st round pick, lotto protected
LAC Outgoing: Chris Kaman, Ricky Davis

Just for your benefit, I feel like we're overpaying a smidge for Kaman considering he's not really proven anything since the injury. And I hate Ricky Davis. A Lot. Like, I'd rather put a deaf mute with arthritis on my team than him.

The 2nd trade isn't bad value, but with Amare's injury status out there too it doesn't excite me much. We'd also lose the best breakdancer in the league in James Johnson.

vote by default, VC4P


ASSIGNMENT # 2: ws26 (8) vs. mikero (9)
Shed the Nets’ ’10 Salary

Nets get: Antonio Daniels, Nathan Jawai, future 2nd rounder
Nets trade: Eduardo Najera, Keyon Dooling

I actually really like this trade with the exception of losing Armstrong for the Hornets. Too weak up front. Otherwise, good trade.

New Jersey Outgoing: Alston, Dooling, Najera, 2nd round pick
Incoming: Camby, Davis

Discombobulated all around. The Nets don't want to lose two PGs, the Clippers don't want 4 PGs on their roster. I also don't see the clippers giving up any possibility of capspace next year for this return.

vote mikero


ASSIGNMENT # 3: legacyinthemakin89c (5) vs. N.O.R.E. (12)
Rearrange the Warriors’ Payroll

Warriors Trade: Stephen Jackson, Speedy Claxton, Warriors own 2010 and 2012 Second round picks
Warriors Receive: Nazr Mohammed, Julian Wright, Morris Peterson

Special note: I find this scenario a bit TOO difficult myself as the warriors are a difficult team to figure.

I have no idea what Charlotte is doing int his deal. Nazr doesn't have positive value, much less the ability to get two seconds from a possible lottery team. I also think Captain Jack isn't going anywhere too awful soon.


I glanced at Euchus' evaluation of this trade and I can't imagine how he gave this to N.O.R.E w/ the George situation and the NYK situation. The deal doesn't work as you presented it for quite some time still and the NYK 1st makes this deal completely infeasible for reasons of legality of the trade and the fact that there's no way in hell the Jazz trade it with NYK looking so awful this year.

Legacyinthemaking advances

N.O.R.E. advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 4: sammydavis (4) vs. Finger Roll (5)
Find a Home for Camby

LAC out: Camby, Kaman, R.Davis, M.Collins
LAC in: J.Howard, K.Brown, JJ Barea, S.Williams, '11 LAC 2nd returned (from DET)

I actually think this is more original overall the euchus is giving it credit for. The trade leaves some concerns at C for the Clippers, but they're actually shedding even more salary next year in this deal too as (correct me if i'm wrong) everyone is expiring and can have their option declined here.


sammydavis advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 5: RTM (3) vs. ClipperDomination (14)
Find a Home for Boozer

Golden State Sends: Brandon Wright, Kelenna Azubuike, Speedy Claxton, 3 Million Cash
Golden State Receives: Carlos Boozer

I do kind of like this. It's not amazing for either team, but it's a good back-up for both teams to rumored deals they've had with other players (amare) or other teams (Miami, Chicago 3 ways)

Utah Trades: Carlos Boozer, 2009 2nd Round Pick
Utah Receives: Gerald Wallace, Dontell Jefferson

Not enthralled with it for Utah, and I don't see Charlotte trading a SF for another guy best suited to play pf.

RTM advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 6: Sterncohen (6) vs. mhd (11)
Rearrange the Hornets’ Payroll
Off-Limits: Paul/West

IN: Francisco Garcia ($5.80M), Dan Gadzuric ($6.75M), 2010 and 2011 Milwaukee 2nd's, $2M cash from Milwaukee - total $12.55M in salaries, partially offset by the $2M cash
OUT: Morris Peterson ($5.99M), Antonio Daniels ($6.60M), Devin Brown ($1.11M) - total $13.70M

Not enthralled with it from Sacto's perspective, and it's probably more complicated than it needs to be, but not bad.

Hornets trade: 1) Peja 2) Antonio Daniels (expiring)
for:
1) Redd 2) Elson (expiring)

I really have absolutely no idea why Milwaukee would do this.

sterncohen advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 7: Poopdamoop (7) vs. eitanr (10)
Shed the Knicks’ ’10 Salary

New York trades: Chris Duhon, Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, 3 million in cash, 2010 2nd rounder, future second round pick
New York receives: Dan Gadzuric, Luke Ridnour, Matt Harpring, Kyle Korver, 6.1 million dollar TPE

When your hands are tied and you can't use any real asset of merit I've got to give you some latitude. I question Orlando taking on THIS much salary to be one of three pgs on the roster, but otherwise there's some method to the madness.

Kings Trade: Andres Nocionni, Kenny Thomas
Knicks Trade: Eddy Curry, Jared Jeffries, and 2010 2nd Rd Pick

I can't see Sacto doing this. They VALUE Nocioni's contributions on the court.

Also, you lose points with me for calling it a perfect scenario

poopdamoop advances.



ASSIGNMENT # 8: KiDdFrESh (2) vs. SW567 (15)
Improve the Heat

Miami trades: PF Udonis Haslem, SF Dorrel Wright, Future 1st Round Pick (via Miami)
Heat recieve: PF Carlos Boozer

It's not terribly original, but it's functional. Again though, without a third team it doesnt really give Utah as much savings as they want.

Miami gets Marcus Camby, Chris Kaman, Al Thornton, Mardy Collins
LA Clippers get Jermaine O'Neal, Dorell Wright, Yakhouba Diawara, Miami's 2010 1st round pick (top 3 protected)

The oft injured JON actually might leave the Clippers in a worse spot manning the C than someone else's deal that gave them Kwame for both their main Cs. I don't like the front court for Miami. This needs a third team.

SW567 advances.

[ecuhus1981]

So, CD, we pretty much agree; although I'm a bit disheartened to not see any scores, just votes. I know, schedules get busy.

If I'm reading your post correctly, our only disagreement was with litm89c and N.O.R.E. In retrospect, I may have been too lenient to a deal whose concept I liked but didn't work, and too harsh against a deal that worked but I didn't feel was fair. I gotta stick to my guns here, but I respect your POV.

[CellarDoor]

When we're handling it like a head to head match-up, scoring it seemed nonsensical when I was already past the deadline.

[KiDdFrESh]

CellarDoor, my trade did involve a 3rd team. Utah does save money from the luxury tax.

Ehhh... whatever though. I found a Boozer deal that works but I guess the Clippers trading both of their centers and instant offense in thorton for a broken down Jermaine O'Neal is far more realitic. Especially considering Miami's 2010 plans.

It was fun.

[ecuhus1981]

When we're handling it like a head to head match-up, scoring it seemed nonsensical when I was already past the deadline.

You have a "point" there!

So, we have our winners of the 1st round, and I will work on 2nd-round assignments, since I seem to hear *crickets* whenever I put out a request for another judge to assign a round.

Just so posters know, here are the matchups:

vincecarter4pres vs. mikero
legacyinthemakin89c vs. sammydavis
RTM vs. sterncohen
poopdamoop vs. SW567

[ClipperDomination]

I went with the "find more talent for Utah" route rather than "create more capspace for Utah" route. I just don't see any big name FA going to Utah any time soon. That's why I thought Crash would be a great option for the Jazz. They are in need of a slasher and that's what they got. And with Charlotte attempting to sell the team, they wouldn't be afraid to unload Crash's contract either.

I won't lie though, RTM's trade was solid. I almost used that exact trade myself!

It was fun while it lasted.

[He Filled it Up]

If you guys are looking for another judge, I could do it. I know I don't have very many posts but I have been a long time reader.

[ecuhus1981]

If you guys are looking for another judge, I could do it. I know I don't have very many posts but I have been a long time reader.

Thanks, I think I'll just stick with the judges that have already committed.

I'm going to start a new thread for the remainder of this trade tournament, so mods, you can un-sticky this thread. Thanks.