Study the Last 3years of Jordans Bulls Tapes

[Magicontinues]

Be sure to give Phil your full report when your finished.

No need.

I'm exploited via professional surveillance already.

Plus, the amateurs don't do a shabby job at what they do either.


It's contacting the other person/people personally that's the main issue for me; I don't like getting involved.

Maybe I'll be able to fix this issue sooner rather than later.

But I'll probably have to get involved.

Understand & understood.


Btw, nice sig.

Any think this is written in another language besides me?

[Dexmor]

All suspect. I saw the Bulls before they even started winning titles, during them winning, & after. I never saw Pippen play the 4 even once. How in the world you figure he's going to out play LO at that position is beyond me. If Drew becomes the Center he seems that he can be, we will blow all of what they did out of the water.


He never started at pf like Odom but he played multiple positions during many games and pf was one of them. You don't remember them throwing it into him in the post? They did it sometimes when he was playing the 4. I remember it.

[Dexmor]

As for forgetting Toni I can assure you I am not. I think you have to compare him to Odom as they are both the best players off the bench. Toni was very good and consistant but I give the advantage to Odom.

As for Bynum not being able to stay healthy you maybe right about that and he is the big x-factor. If he does play 70 games and can play 32 minutes I have to say we are deeper and better. As long as he plays he will always be better then the Bulls C's.

Even if you take him out of the picture it goes a little something like this

Jordan>Kobe (I think it's a push but I don't want to derail the thread or get insulted)
Pippen>Artest (not by as much as you think and if Ron has his best season maybe it could be a push?)
Toni<Odom
Rodman<Gasol
Fisher=Harper and if you take into consideration we have 4 pg's we should win.
Bynum>all 3 centers


The Bench was good in those times but now it wouldn't be as good. Push
Coach push

[Dexmor]

Bynum has not proven anything yet. He cannot even play a full season. Also, I hope you have not forgot about Toni K either. He was pretty good you know? Bulls had that killer instinct and they played against better competition. Until the Lakers can get 3-4 rings with this unit, then we can talk about that. Until then I have to respect the Bulls. I am a Laker fan saying this.


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You couldn't be more wrong about the competition. In the 90's teams had 1-2 stars. If you had 2 you were contenders. One of the best teams was the Knicks and they had

Ewing
Oakley
Smith
Starks
Harper

Starks and Oakley made the allstar team.

The competition was soooo much weaker. Dana Barros made the allstar team.

There were not teams who had 4 stars like there are now. Now you can be in the lotto and have 3 star caliber players. The competition now is not even close to back then. The league is so much deeper now.
I am a Laker fan to but I can also talk nonbias and this is nonbias and if Bynum beasts it up then it's not close. Rodman/Pippen/Toni frontcourt is not close to our Odom/Gasol/Artest/Bynum

[dub81]

Bynum has not proven anything yet. He cannot even play a full season. Also, I hope you have not forgot about Toni K either. He was pretty good you know? Bulls had that killer instinct and they played against better competition. Until the Lakers can get 3-4 rings with this unit, then we can talk about that. Until then I have to respect the Bulls. I am a Laker fan saying this.


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You couldn't be more wrong about the competition. In the 90's teams had 1-2 stars. If you had 2 you were contenders. One of the best teams was the Knicks and they had

Ewing
Oakley
Smith
Starks
Harper

Starks and Oakley made the allstar team.

The competition was soooo much weaker. Dana Barros made the allstar team.

There were not teams who had 4 stars like there are now. Now you can be in the lotto and have 3 star caliber players. The competition now is not even close to back then. The league is so much deeper now.
I am a Laker fan to but I can also talk nonbias and this is nonbias and if Bynum beasts it up then it's not close. Rodman/Pippen/Toni frontcourt is not close to our Odom/Gasol/Artest/Bynum

I know you are not picking Paul Gasol over Dennis Rodman right?? I am done..

[Dexmor]

your one of those guys? Guys who say your done or say you never watched him play if you don't agree.

Gasol was all nba 2nd team last year. It's not like Rodman was all nba first teamer. He had the best defense ever but was 6'6 and a half and Gasol is a 7 footer and even though his D isn't as good he is a legit shotblocker who can play C no problem and it really comes down to what you prefer O or D. I would rather take Gasols 20 points then an extra 8 rebounds you get with Rodman. Also the pf position has changed alot since Rodman and he wouldn't be the fastest pf in these days and the pf's are mostly 6'10-7 feet hyprids, guys who can post and hit 20 footers.

Picking Gasol over Rodman is just an opinion and it's not wrong. There close either way. They are both allstar pf's. It's not like Rodman is in the topic of best pf ever. He isn't Duncan or Malone or KG

I bet alot of gms take Gasol over Rodman so you don't have to be done.

And can you imagine Gasol playing in the 90's? He would have an average of like a 5 inch height advantage every night.

[DEEP3CL]

He never started at pf like Odom but he played multiple positions during many games and pf was one of them. You don't remember them throwing it into him in the post? They did it sometimes when he was playing the 4. I remember it.

Dex "throwing " it to him in the post doesn't mean he was playing the 4, all he did was post up. When I said he's never played the 4 I meant on the defensive end, your not going to sit here and tell me he played the 4 and guarded guys like a Karl Malone or Charles Oakley or a Shawn Kemp during that era. It's no way possible he could even muscle with those guys when he only weighed like 220 lbs, those cat had him by like 40-50 lbs with ease.

[Anklebreaker702]

All suspect. I saw the Bulls before they even started winning titles, during them winning, & after. I never saw Pippen play the 4 even once. How in the world you figure he's going to out play LO at that position is beyond me. If Drew becomes the Center he seems that he can be, we will blow all of what they did out of the water.


He never started at pf like Odom but he played multiple positions during many games and pf was one of them. You don't remember them throwing it into him in the post? They did it sometimes when he was playing the 4. I remember it.

Never, post footage! Pippen was too light in the behind to even think of playing the 4 against the guys of that era. DEEP3CL took the words right out of my mouth. Just because you post doesn't make you play the position, heck I was a PG, & used to post up often, that didn't classify me as anything but a PG posting up.

[Dexmor]

They have gone stretches were they had Toni-Pippen-MJ out on the floor at the same time. He played spot minutes at the 4. Spot minutes means a couple. Im sure of it. It wasn't often. Besides in those days th pf's didn't really have a height advantage and there werent as many big time scorers.

[Dexmor]

I couldn't find any on youtube but I know Phil would always have switches and mismatches and go small and Pippen did sometimes draw the 4. I remember John Sally being laughed at on best damm sports show period because he said Pippen was a top 10 player because he did everything they needed if that was get 10 assists and take no shots or guard pf's.

I did find a cool mix of Pippen on youtube with awsome clips and a good song to for you guys to enjoy if you feel like it. Man that guy was good.
(I have to watch myself and not get to excited at make Kobe/Artest to MJ/Pippen comparisons and say Artest is a draw with Pippen even if Ron breaks out. Got to burn my homer googles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOdTmCcSa6Y