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I think Dantoni would love to have Amare on his team vs the status qou. If the Knicks dont get Lebron, you honestly think there not gonna be offering Amare a max contract? Same for the Nets, both teams are perfect matches for Amare. Amare, Bosh, Lebron, and Wade will all get max contracts.
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Spartan13 wrote:I think Dantoni would love to have Amare on his team vs the status qou. If the Knicks dont get Lebron, you honestly think there not gonna be offering Amare a max contract? Same for the Nets, both teams are perfect matches for Amare. Amare, Bosh, Lebron, and Wade will all get max contracts.
After all that is happened, I just don't see anyone giving him a max contract besides NY, and even them I'm not so sure.
Amare is not a defensive player. He is not very smart, and while he can talk a mean game, he is not tough. No one knows if he can actually do anything right now, let alone be a similar player to what he COULD/SHOULD have been. Didn't they expect another knee surgery soon? I just don't see, in this economy, some team taking the chance on him. No way for the max. I could see something similar to what he has now, but not 20-23 mil. He just can't play both sides of the ball, or won't. He boxes out like a 6th grade kid that has never played basketball. Without Nash and the current state Amare is in right now, I can't see him being the main leader on any team.
Roy just took less than max, and that kid is a stud. He's clutch, and he can lead a team. In clutch time with the game on the line, Amare will charge over the defender and foul out of the game, at least now a days. Maybe he was more hungry before his injuries. Now he is just a talker that can't back up his words. I am done with him. Having kids beg the Suns for a max contract? Really!? What's next, is he going to beg Obama to talk to the Suns?
In case you all forgot, in the press conference after game 4, he still claims that he was checking in to the scorers table. In the effing press conference!! Did he actually think that would work? None of the Suns players or coaches wanted to even comment on that because they knew it was the dumbest thing in the world. It's not like there weren't 20 cameras on the situation. This is just 1 of the many stupid or lame things this kid has done, and people want to give him a max contract?
Since 2004-2005 we have been to the conference finals twice. The one since 2005 was the year we didn't even have Amare, save three games, and if we had KT and Raja the whole time, I think we go to the finals that year. So what leading has Amare done? He can't teach any young guys what he knows. And from what I saw last year, it seems like many teams figured out that you force him to spin, and you have a strong guard waiting there to rip the ball right out of his hands or take the charge. He has a great mid shot, but it all depends on who can give him the ball at the right places. We wouldn't give Marion a max contract, and he did everything for us on both ends of the floor. I just don't see it, and I think the Suns FO agrees.
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Maybe we should trade Amare for someone with an expiring contract who could give us false hope of obtaining a championship. Then Amare will keep his option, get tossed around from team to team as a trading chip next year, all while his numbers plummet due to being removed from a system that inflated them in the first place.
Then his contract will expire and he'll continue to demand a max contract and scoff at anything lower until it becomes desperation time in a fiscally tight season and he settles for the MLE with a long time suns opponent.
Or am I crazy...
Then his contract will expire and he'll continue to demand a max contract and scoff at anything lower until it becomes desperation time in a fiscally tight season and he settles for the MLE with a long time suns opponent.
Or am I crazy...
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Yeah, you are, because Amare was a Rookie of the Year before D'Antoni even got here. He was well on his way to being a strong player regardless.
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-SDU- wrote:amare is worth and will get a max contract in this league
Hopefully the lakers give him the max so they will have $50 million wrapped up in 2 players.
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I could see Miami trading Beasley and something for Amare by this year's trade deadline.

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Booz wrote:I could see Miami trading Beasley and something for Amare by this year's trade deadline.
I don't see the Suns taking on Beasley's baggage,

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The way I see it, this year the cap dropped slightly and a few teams tightened their belts. Sure some teams have gone for broke, but these are all competing teams putting all of their eggs into one basket (kind of like we did during the D'Antoni era - at the end of it all, you're stuck with salary, whether or not you win it all). These are the teams that won't have flexibility over the coming years to sign big name players outright.
Consequently, there are a number of good players that can't even get their "market value" - David Lee (probably around $8m per), Sessions (probably around $6-8m per, can't even land a $4m contract). It is certainly a buyers market right now.
Now next year, when the cap is expected to drop by an even greater margin, the teams that have cleared space will still be able sign players, but at the end of the day, they will still be constrained to some degree by the lower cap threshold. The relative max contract also drops.
So teams with space will face the following crossroads:
- Go after a top tier player with a max contract ($16-20m?) and tie up 40% of their $50m cap in one player;
- Use that $16m to nab 2 or 3 second tier players that, like Lee and Sessions this year, will be available for less than market value;
- Use their cap space to absorb salary and picks from one of the "big" teams that went all in and failed (you would think one of LA/ Boston/ Spurs/ Cleveland/ Orlando will sustain an injury) - either way, 5 teams, only 4 will make conference finals, one will not - that's a fail. Teams that are over the tax now will be even more over the cap next year and be looking to dump just like we have the last few years. There is value in being able to absorb salary.
All in all, remember that money talks and at the end of the day the Suns can offer Stat more money than anyone else.
Consequently, there are a number of good players that can't even get their "market value" - David Lee (probably around $8m per), Sessions (probably around $6-8m per, can't even land a $4m contract). It is certainly a buyers market right now.
Now next year, when the cap is expected to drop by an even greater margin, the teams that have cleared space will still be able sign players, but at the end of the day, they will still be constrained to some degree by the lower cap threshold. The relative max contract also drops.
So teams with space will face the following crossroads:
- Go after a top tier player with a max contract ($16-20m?) and tie up 40% of their $50m cap in one player;
- Use that $16m to nab 2 or 3 second tier players that, like Lee and Sessions this year, will be available for less than market value;
- Use their cap space to absorb salary and picks from one of the "big" teams that went all in and failed (you would think one of LA/ Boston/ Spurs/ Cleveland/ Orlando will sustain an injury) - either way, 5 teams, only 4 will make conference finals, one will not - that's a fail. Teams that are over the tax now will be even more over the cap next year and be looking to dump just like we have the last few years. There is value in being able to absorb salary.
All in all, remember that money talks and at the end of the day the Suns can offer Stat more money than anyone else.
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Mr CoolBeese has a lot of luggage to unpack before he goes anywhere.
I think Amare can get a max deal, especially to a team that has been setting themselves up for a marquis free agent. It is his offensive game that puts butts in the seats. A Monster Dunk is much more energizing than a blocked shot or rebound. Nothing creates a buzz like that in the arena.... home or away crowds. And Stat is as capable of throwing down some jawdroppers as anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7CKPD0hYc
thats the one where Marblury's face says it all.
I hope we can keep him. His play will determine that.
I think Amare can get a max deal, especially to a team that has been setting themselves up for a marquis free agent. It is his offensive game that puts butts in the seats. A Monster Dunk is much more energizing than a blocked shot or rebound. Nothing creates a buzz like that in the arena.... home or away crowds. And Stat is as capable of throwing down some jawdroppers as anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7CKPD0hYc
thats the one where Marblury's face says it all.
I hope we can keep him. His play will determine that.
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I think his play this year will be huge, on both sides of the court. I really think he is going to have a big year this year. Not only because of the contract issues, but also I think he has a lot to prove, he wants to be known as one of the best players ever and I think he knows now that's not going to happen unless he improves defensively. He certainly has the ability, but it was never a priority for him nor his previous coaches, especially D'Antoni. I think it is unfair to judge this team or any individual players on this team from last years failures. That was a lot BS to have to deal with in one season. Knowing that we are going back to a style of play that suits him, nash and the rest of the team, knowing that he will be once again be a main focal point of the offense with shooters that will spread the floor for him rather than clog it up, knowing that defense will be a focal point from day one of training camp I really believe this will be a huge year for him and the Suns. If the chemistry begins to develope from the first day of training camp, I think we will be contending.....
and Frank, I still have my pair of glasses from last year so no need to give me another pair..........lol
and Frank, I still have my pair of glasses from last year so no need to give me another pair..........lol
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hahaha.... RSF.... i might have to pull a pair out for myself... cause thats how I am seeing it.... except for the contending part....which is a bit of a stretch. Perhaps mid season will render better judgement for that. But, if all goes well, we aren't but a 'catastrophic injury to our opposition' away from making some noise. Crap like that shut our door and opened it for others.
I don't think it is overly optimistic to predict a healthy Stat will/can be in the top 3 in pts (and certainly in Dunks). He is going to get the touches, no doubt.
whether that will translate into a playoff spot is uncertain.... and certainly those professing a championship will be issued the appropriate eyewear.
I don't think it is overly optimistic to predict a healthy Stat will/can be in the top 3 in pts (and certainly in Dunks). He is going to get the touches, no doubt.
whether that will translate into a playoff spot is uncertain.... and certainly those professing a championship will be issued the appropriate eyewear.

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hahahaha............yes I do see you handing a few pair out no doubt. But, I think some of these nay sayers should be handed a pair as well but instead of the rose colored lens, perhaps they should be blacked out lens because they obviously cannot see the potential this team actually has.......
I already have my pair of the ol rosies so i will say that I do believe we will defininately be a playoff team. As for a championship, hey anything is possible, it is not only skill and good play that get you a championship, but it also takes some luck, of the good variety, not kind we are used to having. But if somehow a little "good' luck finds itself on our doorstep, I think it is possible. Now that is just my opinion, and yes it is very early to have that much optimism, but I always do whith the suns. I agree that around midseason will be a better indication of how this team will do.
Yes it is a stretch, but it is possible as well..............
I already have my pair of the ol rosies so i will say that I do believe we will defininately be a playoff team. As for a championship, hey anything is possible, it is not only skill and good play that get you a championship, but it also takes some luck, of the good variety, not kind we are used to having. But if somehow a little "good' luck finds itself on our doorstep, I think it is possible. Now that is just my opinion, and yes it is very early to have that much optimism, but I always do whith the suns. I agree that around midseason will be a better indication of how this team will do.
Yes it is a stretch, but it is possible as well..............

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If we're a 5-10 games above 500 by the all star break, we should be in good shape to make the playoffs, & I agree that I see Amare having a big year. The haters can say what they will, but I have faith in my Suns man! I can't wait to see them play! Opening pre-season game is just over a month away!!!!!!
