Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley

[GswStorm3]

Wow. Sometimes i question the Intelligence of the posters that are on Realgm..Seriously

Of all times why make a Thread When Beasley Stock is so low, and LOL at the results, people are so gullible.

Beasley has the higher Ceiling, and its not even funny, Randolph has him on defense, but Beasley is Ultimately the better player. Can't wait to Bump this in December

lol Gullible by facts? Beasley is the one smoking weed and currently in a rehab program. He's mentally fragile, these incidents won't change his image for a while.

I also simply don't project an all offense/no defense player with a higher ceiling than Randolph. It's like your saying Beasley has the higher upside just because he can score more, but he's going to give up more than half those points in return on the defensive end. Give me an all around player anytime over a one dimensional scorer.

[KR4]

Wow. Sometimes i question the Intelligence of the posters that are on Realgm..Seriously

Of all times why make a Thread When Beasley Stock is so low, and LOL at the results, people are so gullible.

Beasley has the higher Ceiling, and its not even funny, Randolph has him on defense, but Beasley is Ultimately the better player. Can't wait to Bump this in December

Great post. I don't know what I was thinking. I'm glad you so eloquently laid out the facts in detail. I mean you took stats, gave in-game examples, gave real life examples of him as a responsible person and a person willing to work hard and to win.

Above all, you didn't give any biased "opinion", it was just pure objectivity.

Bravo.

Can't wait to bump this...whenever.

[BBallFreak]

lol Gullible by facts? Beasley is the one smoking weed and currently in a rehab program. He's mentally fragile, these incidents won't change his image for a while.

First of all, he's in a rehab as a result of something he did a year ago. He's not there because of any new drug related infraction. He's there completing his penance for his previous wrong doing, which by the way may or may not have involved actual use of any illegal substance. The only thing we know for sure was that he was in the room... then tried to get out of thew room. No one rags on Mario Chalmers for being there.

Second of all, pot doesn't lead you to a life long ban. The most you can get is a 5 game suspension. Read the CBA. This isn't something that effects Beasley as a player on a longterm basis. This was a mistake... the same mistake countless others have made including Lamar Odom and Charles Oakley to name a pair of notables. They've both had pretty distinguished careers.

I also simply don't project an all offense/no defense player with a higher ceiling than Randolph. It's like your saying Beasley has the higher upside just because he can score more, but he's going to give up more than half those points in return on the defensive end. Give me an all around player anytime over a one dimensional scorer.

First of all, calling Beasley all offense/no defense is preposterous. He plays defense. He plays it fairly well at times. He's not the defender that Randolph is, but he is not a turnstile.

Second of all, you're assuming you know Beasley's defensive ceiling. He improved immensely from the beginning of last season to the end of last season in that regard. Their is no reason he can't continue to improve.

Finally, who in the hell would call Randolph an all around player? Seriously, he is to offense what Beasley is to defense... average at best! Just like you don't want Beasley defending the other team's best player, you also don't want an opposing team focusing their defense on Randolph. Either way, you're pretty much screwed.

I don't see how you can claim Randolph is so superior when he's every bit the liability on offense that you claim Beasley is on defense. Poor argument...

[KR4]

First of all, he's in a rehab

Second of all, pot doesn't lead you to a life long ban.

First of all, calling Beasley all offense/no defense is preposterous.

Second of all, you're assuming you know Beasley's defensive ceiling.

Finally, who in the hell would call Randolph an all around player?

I don't see how you can claim Randolph is so superior when he's every bit the liability on offense that you claim Beasley is on defense. Poor argument...

Your structure is impeccable. No iambic pentameter though...that would have been impressive.

Seriously man...are serious right now? I mean, its like you're swatting at flies in the dark. I really can't believe you'd call Randolph a liability on offense. My immediate response when I heard this was to write some insolent remarks, but I'll take the high road and just say that statement proves that you didn't watch one game he played in. He dropped 42 in a summer league game...it was the record at the time, which I know you know...but even though it was summer league it still takes some offensive domination to make that happen. Randolph's jumper is a little suspect at times, but other than that GTF out of his way.

[GswStorm3]

lol Gullible by facts? Beasley is the one smoking weed and currently in a rehab program. He's mentally fragile, these incidents won't change his image for a while.

First of all, he's in a rehab as a result of something he did a year ago. He's not there because of any new drug related infraction. He's there completing his penance for his previous wrong doing, which by the way may or may not have involved actual use of any illegal substance. The only thing we know for sure was that he was in the room... then tried to get out of thew room. No one rags on Mario Chalmers for being there.

Second of all, pot doesn't lead you to a life long ban. The most you can get is a 5 game suspension. Read the CBA. This isn't something that effects Beasley as a player on a longterm basis. This was a mistake... the same mistake countless others have made including Lamar Odom and Charles Oakley to name a pair of notables. They've both had pretty distinguished careers.

I also simply don't project an all offense/no defense player with a higher ceiling than Randolph. It's like your saying Beasley has the higher upside just because he can score more, but he's going to give up more than half those points in return on the defensive end. Give me an all around player anytime over a one dimensional scorer.

First of all, calling Beasley all offense/no defense is preposterous. He plays defense. He plays it fairly well at times. He's not the defender that Randolph is, but he is not a turnstile.

Second of all, you're assuming you know Beasley's defensive ceiling. He improved immensely from the beginning of last season to the end of last season in that regard. Their is no reason he can't continue to improve.

Finally, who in the hell would call Randolph an all around player? Seriously, he is to offense what Beasley is to defense... average at best! Just like you don't want Beasley defending the other team's best player, you also don't want an opposing team focusing their defense on Randolph. Either way, you're pretty much screwed.

I don't see how you can claim Randolph is so superior when he's every bit the liability on offense that you claim Beasley is on defense. Poor argument...

Your best player called Beasley extremely slow footed, that's not exactly the best ingredient to becoming a good man to man defender in this league. He's not blocking any shots so he's definitely not helping you with any weakside defensive help. Whether you want to admit it or not, Beasley will always be a mediocre defensive player at best. His defense the the first half of the season was down right pathetic so it wasn't exactly hard just to improve a little.

The only liability Randolph had was inconsistency with his mid range jumper his rookie season and he showed in SL his mid range jumper is much improved. A ton of shooting daily in the Gym can help improve your jumper. Extremely slow feet isn't going to help Beasley's ability to keep quicker/athletic PF's in front of him.

One thing Randolph definitely has over Beasley offensively is his ability to handle the ball. That's makes Randolph a much more difficult cover because he can push the ball up the court and find an open shooter in transition with ease. Randolph has point forward skills and Beasley does not, so that gap offensively between those two isn't as big as you might assume.

[BROWN]

It's great to see how Heat fans are making Warrior fans to be the bad guys, when they clearly can see that there young guy has already tainted his career, while our young guy is heading towards stardom.
There's a reason why Randolph is getting more votes than Beasley, adding th Rehab, allowed the decision to make it easier.

As a basketball player you need to be in the right mindset, and right now Beasley isn't. I hope he gets better, but the question still remains, who's better right now? That's Anthony Randolph.

You can clearly see how the greater player of the two, better themselves during this off season. Anthony spent most of his days in the gym, working on his game, being invited to team USA minicamp, while Beasley I assume was on twitter and making his new tattoo, while playing basketball here and there.

Beasley's a great talent, he has allot of potential of becoming a great offensive player, while Anthony has the potential of being both a great offensive and defensive player. It's clear, Anthony close to 7'0, while Beasley stands at 6'7, Anthony's got the athleticism, but Beasley does have offensive awareness, but defensively, no matter how smart Beasley can be, he cannot match to Anthony's defensive capabilities.

[That Nicka]

lol.. this is Beasley

[theDEATH]

Beasley and it's not even close. What the hell does Randolph do besides being decent dribbler for his size ? Beasley would've scored 20 + if he went to garbage team like the Warriors. Thread.

And for a coach like Don Nelson, Beas would prob' play center too. Can play the 3, 4 and 5 :O

[turk3d]

He might do better playing Center. That way his slow feet wouldn't be as big of an issue (since most Centers are pretty slow-footed).

[NetsForce]

Don't get it twisted.

Wade said something along the lines that Beasley is too slow to play SF full-time, just like Anthony Randolph is too weak to play power forward or against physical wing players full-time.

[turk3d]

Don't get it twisted.

Wade said something along the lines that Beasley is too slow to play SF full-time, just like Anthony Randolph is too weak to play power forward or against physical wing players full-time.

Is that right?

Yao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GAtyNm8vnE

Brad Miller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpBoq1WOXtc

Odom
http://www.yougotdunkedon.com/2009/02/a ... -odom.html

You sure Randolph is too weak to play against physical wing players? You wanna retract that maybe?

BTW, he's grown an inch and has put on about 15-20 lbs of muscle this offseason.

[NetsForce]

Uh huh, sure Turk, sure... Randolph is a nice prospect but he gets HANDLED on a consistent basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXsDzac4fXg

You're never going to see Beasley get wrecked like that.

[turk3d]

That's what you guys are talking about? lol. !) He probably got hurt on the play (Lamar push him to the ground so the play bordered on dirty). If anything if he was crying (maybe 1 tear if that) it was probably because he had the foul called on him when he felt he got shoved which he did and 3) it so happens that it was Lamar Odom who gave him the highest praise of anyone who he played against last season, predicting that he would be a HOFer someday so I don't believe LO thought Anthony was intimidated by him, not in the least. That's all you got, him going over the back trying to get an O-rebound and then getting undercut and knocked to the floor? He got right up didn't he? Pretty weak.

Beasley would have had to go on injured list at least for a week if that had happened to him and would have needed at least 1 month worth of therapy.

[Wade2k6]

It's great to see how Heat fans are making Warrior fans to be the bad guys, when they clearly can see that there young guy has already tainted his career, while our young guy is heading towards stardom.
There's a reason why Randolph is getting more votes than Beasley, adding th Rehab, allowed the decision to make it easier.

As a basketball player you need to be in the right mindset, and right now Beasley isn't. I hope he gets better, but the question still remains, who's better right now? That's Anthony Randolph.

You can clearly see how the greater player of the two, better themselves during this off season. Anthony spent most of his days in the gym, working on his game, being invited to team USA minicamp, while Beasley I assume was on twitter and making his new tattoo, while playing basketball here and there.

Beasley's a great talent, he has allot of potential of becoming a great offensive player, while Anthony has the potential of being both a great offensive and defensive player. It's clear, Anthony close to 7'0, while Beasley stands at 6'7, Anthony's got the athleticism, but Beasley does have offensive awareness, but defensively, no matter how smart Beasley can be, he cannot match to Anthony's defensive capabilities.

So again we have W fans saying Randolph stands close to 7'0 but Beasley is 6'7. If you're going to say Beasley is 6'7, then Randolph is 6'9. If you're going to say Randolph is 6'10.25 then Beasley is 6'8.5. You can't use one measurement with one players shoes on (like you did with Randolph) then use Beasleys barefoot measurements. That makes no sense at all.

[GswStorm3]

Uh huh, sure Turk, sure... Randolph is a nice prospect but he gets HANDLED on a consistent basis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXsDzac4fXg

You're never going to see Beasley get wrecked like that.

Pretty sad this is like the fifth time you mentioned that incident. That's pretty much tells me you have no legitimate arguments against Randolph.

[BROWN]

It's great to see how Heat fans are making Warrior fans to be the bad guys, when they clearly can see that there young guy has already tainted his career, while our young guy is heading towards stardom.
There's a reason why Randolph is getting more votes than Beasley, adding th Rehab, allowed the decision to make it easier.

As a basketball player you need to be in the right mindset, and right now Beasley isn't. I hope he gets better, but the question still remains, who's better right now? That's Anthony Randolph.

You can clearly see how the greater player of the two, better themselves during this off season. Anthony spent most of his days in the gym, working on his game, being invited to team USA minicamp, while Beasley I assume was on twitter and making his new tattoo, while playing basketball here and there.

Beasley's a great talent, he has allot of potential of becoming a great offensive player, while Anthony has the potential of being both a great offensive and defensive player. It's clear, Anthony close to 7'0, while Beasley stands at 6'7, Anthony's got the athleticism, but Beasley does have offensive awareness, but defensively, no matter how smart Beasley can be, he cannot match to Anthony's defensive capabilities.

So again we have W fans saying Randolph stands close to 7'0 but Beasley is 6'7. If you're going to say Beasley is 6'7, then Randolph is 6'9. If you're going to say Randolph is 6'10.25 then Beasley is 6'8.5. You can't use one measurement with one players shoes on (like you did with Randolph) then use Beasleys barefoot measurements. That makes no sense at all.

From reports this summer Anthony has gained an inch, which makes him closer to 7'0 than 6'9. I'm sorry, Beasley is a 6'8 slow footed tweener, better?

[killacalijatt]

I just hope Beasley doesnt kill himself

[NetsForce]

I just hope Beasley doesnt kill himself

[Wade2k6]

From reports this summer Anthony has gained an inch, which makes him closer to 7'0 than 6'9. I'm sorry, Beasley is a 6'8 slow footed tweener, better?

Well if you're going to make a point, at least make sure you're correct about it. There is no proof that AR is 7 foot so until a credible source comes out and says that I'm not going to take it seriously. Beasley is 6'8.5 and AR is 6'10.25 .

[Warriors Analyst]

I just hope Beasley doesnt kill himself

You've taken it way too far twice in this topic, you are making us Warriors fans look bad, please stop.