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The future, by the numbers 

Post#1 » by Schad » Sun Sep 6, 2009 8:09 pm

I'm breaking this into three posts, each addressing a specific aspect of our minor league position players, which is of more concern than the pitchers (who have progressed well). The goal is twofold: to try and tease out a pattern that might identify our drafting and coaching strengths/weaknesses in the minors, and perhaps gain some understanding of what the future of the team might be. Granted, because we're working in the aggregate (evaluating teams rather than individual players) there's no differentiation made between the guys who might or will make it and the filler, but it could turn up some useful information. Or just a heaping pile of incomprehensible numbers (it's Sunday, and I'm at work).


Patience

With the exception of the Gary Denbo era (when he managed to coax patience out of a host of players, while utterly destroying their swings), the Jays have been a fairly swing-happy team in recent years...though they're only two points lower than the AL average in OBP - BA (a decent though simplistic measure of patience) at +67, that owes largely to the presence of two terrific walk-drawers in Scutaro and Overbay. The minor league teams are all over the place. The 'patience' numbers on a league-by-league basis:

OBP - BA

AAA

Reno: +79
Oklahoma City: +79
Portland: +78
New Orleans: +73
Colorado Springs: +71
Omaha: +71
Tacoma: +70
Sacramento: +70
Salt Lake: +69
Albuquerque: +67
Nashville: +67
Iowa: +66
Memphis: +64
Las Vegas: +63
Fresno: +62
Round Rock: +55


It's worth noting that the 51s are leading the league in OPS regardless, though they do play in an enclosed postage stamp. They strike out very little, as well, indicative of a teamwide focus on jumping on early pitches and hitting them the 50 feet necessary to clear the fences at Cashman Field. Also, because organizational philosophies have quite an effect on the ages of AAA teams, you often have groups of wily vets competing against a bunch of young hackers. Las Vegas, though hardly filled to the brim with top prospects, is on the lower end of the age range.

AA

New Hampshire: +85
Portland: +84
Akron: +83
Erie: +76
Altoona: +76
Binghampton: +74
New Britain: +73
Reading; +71
Bowie: +71
Trenton: +71
Harrisburg: +70
Connecticut: +65


New Hampshire is the anti-Las Vegas...some very patient hitters (Jeroloman, Cooper, Mastroianni, Donovan, and others), but no one that can actually hit. Basically, it's where many of our 'advanced college bats' in years past have stalled out, at least temporarily. They also strike out more than average, though they aren't at the top of the league; unlike Las Vegas, again, a bunch of guys that loves them some deep counts.

High-A

Dunedin: +77
St. Lucie: +77
Jupiter: +76
Fort Myers: +76
Pam Beach: +75
Charlotte: +74
Tampa: +72
Brevard County: +66
Lakeland: +65
Clearwater: +64
Daytona: +61
Sarasota: +54


Something of a surprise, given that the Dunedin team is quite young, but this team knows its way around a walk...the 2007 crew (Tolisano, Jackson, Mastro again, even Ahrens and Sierra) are decent-to-good at working the count. And as the next post'll detail, pretty solid power hitters. Their collective Achilles heel: a total inability to make contact with baseballs, leading to a league-high strikeout count.

Low-A

Fort Wayne: +99
Wisconsin: +84
Kane County: +79
Quad Cities: +79
Cedar Rapids: +78
Clinton: +74
Great Lakes: +72
West Michigan: +71
Beloit: +71
South Bend: +66
Burlington: +64
Dayton: +63
Lansing: +63
Peoria: +60


...and then there's Lansing. Other than Brian Van Kirk (a 24 year old non-prospect) and Pastornicky (since elevated) this team simply doesn't like looking at pitches; second-last in the Midwest in walks, and tops in strikeouts, which is a combination that requires effort. Why? I'm not entirely sure, though there are some definite free-swingers on the roster...AJ Jiminez and Balbino Fuenmayor alone probably knock the numbers down by a couple percent. It also bears noting that the Dunedin team, largely comprised of guys who played in Lansing last year, have seen a fairly large uptick in their OBP spread despite facing better pitching.

Short-season

Vermont: +87
Mahoning Valley: +86
Brooklyn: +83
State College: +80
Lowell: +79
Aberdeen: +79
Oneonta: +74
Staten Island: +73
Batavia: +72
Tri-City: 72
Auburn: +71
Jamestown: +66
Hudson Valley: +64
Williamsport: +58


Somewhat more advanced college bats vs. nervous first-time professional pitchers seems to lead to plenty of walks. Or perhaps it's the fact that, their averages and power plunging after swapping aluminum for wood, hitters are taking far more pitches than before. Or whatever. Because this team is comprised largely of the Jays' most-recent picks, it along with the GCL team could be indicative of where the Jays are trending...and like Lansing, Auburn is high-K, low-BB.

Rookie ball

Marlins: +96
Yankees: +89
Astros: +86
Mets: +85
Cardinals: +85
Nationals: +82
Orioles: +82
Phillies: +79
Blue Jays: +79
Twins: +74
Pirates: +73
Red Sox: +73
Braves: +69
Tigers: +67
Reds: +64
Rays: +63


As you can see, the GCL tends to feature plenty of young arms who can't find the strike zone. The GCL Jays are basically mid-pack...but again, they strike out more than anyone else in the league.



What can we take away? Whether it's the team's drafting philosophy, the youth in our low minors, or a coaching staff at those levels that doesn't bat an eye if a guy flails at an ankle-high curveball twenty times in a row, at all levels below AA a pretty clear trend emerges: aggressive -- often overly so -- hitters who end up catching air more often than just about any other organization.

Personally, I might lean towards the third explanation...in a couple interviews earlier in the season, coaches or instructors at the lower levels spoke of the fact that they've encountered more than a little resistance when attempting to alter the approaches (whether it's plate discipline or swings) of our kids in Dunedin and Lansing. Though that's hardly uncommon when you're dealing with players a year or two out of high school, it's on the coaches as much as on the players...plenty of teams have headstrong youngsters, it's the successful ones that are able to, y'know, coach them.


Next on the docket: power. The kids swing and miss constantly...but does the ball go anywhere when they make contact?
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Re: The future, by the numbers 

Post#2 » by Schad » Mon Sep 7, 2009 6:34 pm

For some time, the Jays haven't exactly been known for their power-hitting prowess...they haven't topped the league average in slugging since that magical 2006 campaign when the offense was actually better than the pitching (because naturally it's not possible for both to succeed at the same time). This year has been a little different; the team is a full .001 above the AL slugging average, and the team's 165 points of iso power is 3 above the mean. Not exactly mashing, but I'll take it.

As with the first post, I'm using a fairly simplistic (though widely used) formula for power: iso power, which can be approximated with SLG - BA. Keep in mind that the numbers can be skewed quite a bit by park factors.

AAA


Tacoma: .170
Las Vegas: .168
Albuquerque: .165
Fresno: .162
Sacramento: .161
Salt Lake: .159
Reno: .156
Omaha: .146
Nashville: .144
Memphis: .141
Portland: .140
New Orleans: .138
Iowa: .130
Colorado Springs: .129
Round Rock: .123
Oklahoma City: .106


Not too surprising...the 51s have mashed all year, and they play in a bandbox. There are signs of real power in the group, though, as Randy Ruiz has proven; Las Vegas also enjoys a large lead in doubles, which is no mean feat in a park where the second baseman can practically reach out and touch the fences, and particularly impressive given the low strikeout totals noted before.


AA

Erie: .174
Harrisburg: .138
Portland: .133
Akron: .129
Reading: .128
New Britain: .125
Altoona: .122
Bowie: .121
New Hampshire: .119
Connecticut: .116
Trenton: .114
Binghampton: .104


No surprise here, either...and without Dopirak's extended abuse of AA pitching it would be much lower. It's also indicative of the fact that New Hampshire is something of a dead spot in the organization prospect-wise, and with the recent graduations our high-minors are pretty thin in true talent...the Fisher Cats one player with high hopes in Cooper, a few pseudo-prospects in Emaus, Campbell, Mastroianni and Jeroloman, and quite a bit of filler. Thankfully, we'll have Moises Sierra (a recent promotion to NH) to swoon over along with Cooper. But beyond Arencibia and some potential fill-ins currently playing in Las Vegas it could be a while before we see the next wave of kiddies.

High-A

St. Lucie: .137
Dunedin: .126
Tampa: .122
Clearwater: .117
Lakeland: .115
Jupiter: .111
Brevard County: .107
Fort Myers: .103
Sarasota: .100
Charlotte: .097
Daytona: .084


Power, and quite a bit of it, is the order of the day in Dunedin. However, through a combination of injuries, promotions and demotions this team ain't as young as it began, and a fair amount of the power is coming from the older folks...Manny Rodriguez, Jesus Gonzalez, and the two catchers. Still, there's a fair amount of projectable pop between Thames, Tolisano and Sierra, even if Jackson neer recovers and Ahrens never learns to hit.

Low-A

Great Lakes: .147
Peoria: .142
Fort Wayne: .135
Lansing: .124
Dayton: .121
Clinton: .118
West Michigan: .114
Kane County: .112
Wisconsin: .110
Quad Cities: .109
Beloit: .108
Cedar Rapids: .108
Burlington: .104
South Bend: .097


Mike McDade, Joho Chavez, and a host of other kids with raw power, leading to pretty impressive slugging numbers especially as much of it is coming from guys drafted beyond the top five rounds, where you'd normally expect to find the big boppers.

Short-season

Williamsport: .142
Staten Island: .138
State College: .112
Lowell: .110
Oneonta: .109
Auburn: .108
Batavia: .108
Brooklyn: .099
Mahoning Valley: .098
Aberdeen: .097
Tri City: .092
Hudson Valley: .091
Jamestown: .088
Vermont: .085

A touch above average, but second in doubles and fourth in HRs; Auburn doesn't turn doubles into triples like many of the teams in the lower leagues, which lowers their 'power' stats.

Rookie ball

Nationals: .124
Braves: .121
Blue Jays: .119
Tigers: .113
Yankees: .111
Red Sox: .109
Twins: .104
Pirates: .096
Phillies: .089
Orioles: .088
Cardinals: .087
Astros: .085
Marlins: .081
Reds: .081
Mets: .079
Rays: .066


Lookee there...more power. In a league full of neophytes, that's actually a hell of a lot of power...again, it comes at the expense of contact (the rookie Jays are hitting .225), but it illustrates a bit of a lean towards starting with flawed products and trying to build baseball players rather than starting with more complete players and hope to squeeze out hidden talent. Granted, the Jays have taken some advanced bats, but the trend has been towards younger players, many of them international signees, who hopefully have the chance to do more than simply make the league as filler. It's a marked change from the early days of the Ricciardi era, and one that can be frustrating beyond belief...the problem with relying on players to 'get it' at some point is that the vast majority won't.

Last up: athleticism. They hit hard but rarely, but can they move?
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