Stromile Swift anyone

[truthbtold21]

He is a free agent and could be had for the vet minimum and we provide a reliable back up to diaw at the pf spot,and is versatile and athletic enough to guard the quicker power forwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTUxEwnWN3Y

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He would retire in horror faced to Larry's playbook.

[dmutombo321]

Yeah, he has the IQ of an amoeba. Brown would really have to grit his teeth to bring this doofus on board. But we're in dire need of a 4 and there really isnt a hell of alot left out there.

[thruthefire]

He may be dumb as a rock, but he can play. I'd do it for the vet minimum.

[thruthefire]

But we're in dire need of a 4 and there really isnt a hell of alot left out there.

As May pointed out, the irony in us still not having a backup power forward, even though we passed him up for the veteran's minimum.

[Fred Williamson]

Why not? He's dumb but a solid defender and it wouldn't hurt to let him play 15 minutes

[dmutombo321]

But we're in dire need of a 4 and there really isnt a hell of alot left out there.

As May pointed out, the irony in us still not having a backup power forward, even though we passed him up for the veteran's minimum.

I was furious when they let May walk. If he'd been demanding 2-3 mil a year, that would have been fine. But he wasnt, and after senselessly paying him millions to sit on the bench the past few years, when he's finally healthy and at weight (262), we dont even retain him for the veterans minimum.

Say what you want about May, but in his present state, he's a better value at the vet minimum than anyone else out there at the PF position.

Despite his intellectual shortcomings I alluded to earlier, I'd be in favor of Swift at this point for the vet min, if for nothing else, since the alternative would likely be another D Leager like ernest brown.

Did anyone ever pick up Diogu?

[Battery]

Why not? He's dumb but a solid defender and it wouldn't hurt to let him play 15 minutes

Really? If he's a "solid defender" as you claim, then why is he still available...for the veterans minimum?

[Battery]

I was furious when they let May walk.

If he'd been demanding 2-3 mil a year, that would have been fine. But he wasnt, and after senselessly paying him millions to sit on the bench the past few years, when he's finally healthy and at weight (262), we dont even retain him for the veterans minimum.

Say what you want about May, but in his present state, he's a better value at the vet minimum than anyone else out there at the PF position.

Thanks but no thanks. Can't sign players who aren't trustworthy and don't take their profession seriously. Also, with May's penchant for all nighters at the local fast food joints, there is a slight problem of having a McDonalds and Bojangles on every corner here in Charlotte. It's like returning a crack addict immediately after rehab back to a crack house.

Despite his intellectual shortcomings I alluded to earlier, I'd be in favor of Swift at this point for the vet min, if for nothing else, since the alternative would likely be another D Leager like ernest brown.

I'd rather have nobody on the court than Swift. At least nobody doesn't cost anything and won't get in the way.

Did anyone ever pick up Diogu?

New Orleans

[dmutombo321]

I was furious when they let May walk.

If he'd been demanding 2-3 mil a year, that would have been fine. But he wasnt, and after senselessly paying him millions to sit on the bench the past few years, when he's finally healthy and at weight (262), we dont even retain him for the veterans minimum.

Say what you want about May, but in his present state, he's a better value at the vet minimum than anyone else out there at the PF position.

Thanks but no thanks. Can't sign players who aren't trustworthy and don't take their profession seriously. Also, with May's penchant for all nighters at the local fast food joints, there is a slight problem of having a McDonalds and Bojangles on every corner here in Charlotte. It's like returning a crack addict immediately after rehab back to a crack house.

Let me be clear: I think May's a bum. I was clamoring for Danny Granger on 04' draft night and hurled expletives at the television when they selected him. After he got hurt, I was in favor of not picking up his first team option and letting him walk. And, I'm confident that as soon as someone gives him a long term contract, he'll get fat and get injured as sure as the sun rises.

Everything's relative though and alot of people cant seem to grasp that. I would never endorse signing Sean May for 2 or 3 million $, much less to a long term contract. But lets be real; now that he's seemingly healthy and down under 265lbs, he's a better back-up 4 man at the vet minimum than which ever unk D-Leaguer the Cats will probably end up snagging (and then likely cutting sometime mid season.)

I'll go ahead and make a friendly wager with you now that May will play more meaningful minutes off the bench for Sac then whoever we end up signing for our backup 4 at the min.

[NBA Junkie]

Brian Skinner would be a much better option at the veteran's minimum than Stromile Swift. Skinner is a smarter and more efficient player who will actually hustle on the floor.

I do agree that Sean May would have been well worth the gamble at a minimum contract in terms of potential. Whether he will actually hustle and stay in shape is anybody's guess though. It basically came down to a question of reliability versus potential. The Bobcats decided to go the conservative route, which could very well bite them in the end. All we can do is wait and see.

[Mezotarkus]

We have $25 million tied up in the center position and we still don't have a decent center. We really need to blow this thing up and start over.

Also, if you are angry that we let Sean May walk then you haven't been paying attention. $2-3 million per year for May? What you fail to understand is that works out to about $150,000 per game based on his run rate.

[Paydro70]

Stromile was an OK player for a while... he was pretty horrendous last year though. I don't see much difference between him and whatever other hypothetical replacement-level player we're going to be getting... so I guess my answer is "whatever."

May... y'know, I wonder whether we can really be strung along for another season paying him. The sad truth is that besides Okafor he's probably the best player we've ever drafted when he's on the court... which is why he's so tempting to keep. Ultimately I would probably have erred on the side of risk this year and signed him at the vet minimum... it's such a small risk, and if that lottery ticket that is his health/weight works out, we have a high-caliber player for cheap.

As with any basketball move, you have to ask what your opportunity cost is. In this instance, it's whoever else we'd sign as our backup PF. We're apparently seriously considering Stromile Swift here, so which one is preferable? I probably go with May, much as that pains me.

[Battery]

Let me be clear: I think May's a bum.

I'll go ahead and make a friendly wager with you now that May will play more meaningful minutes off the bench for Sac then whoever we end up signing for our backup 4 at the min.

We might as well give up now, if we can't find someone who's slightly better than bum. But the situations are much different, as is Sacramento has no shot at the playoffs, so they will be playing garbage time all season long. Not exactly the most competitive atmosphere for an injury prone fatso looking for minutes. And by meaningful minutes, do you mean meaningful in the sense of keeping his team from not getting blown out by more than 20 points every night?

Please describe meaningful in the case of Sean May.

[fatlever]

swift is awful. i'd rather roll with an undrafted rookie or the NBDL player of the month over swift.

[Bassman]

swift is awful. i'd rather roll with an undrafted rookie or the NBDL player of the month over swift.

Agree...Swift is not our answer. I think the team will need to find a trade that gets them a reserve 4. Supposedly we continue to talk with the Mavs and others about swapping one of our reserve 5's for a 4.

[Mezotarkus]

Stromile was an OK player for a while... he was pretty horrendous last year though. I don't see much difference between him and whatever other hypothetical replacement-level player we're going to be getting... so I guess my answer is "whatever."

Well, if our parameter is a player who was an "OK player for a while" then lets sign Shawn Kemp.

May... y'know, I wonder whether we can really be strung along for another season paying him. The sad truth is that besides Okafor he's probably the best player we've ever drafted when he's on the court... which is why he's so tempting to keep. Ultimately I would probably have erred on the side of risk this year and signed him at the vet minimum... it's such a small risk, and if that lottery ticket that is his health/weight works out, we have a high-caliber player for cheap.

I don't think anyone would disagree signing May to a one year veteran's minimum contract would have been a good move. But our F.O. seems to be allergic to "good moves."

[WaydownSouth]

May's time was over in Charlotte and both sides needed to go their separate ways. I still cry watching Danny Granger. The only thing that hurt Charlotte with May leaving was the profit margins of 'all you can eat' restaurants in the area.

[dmutombo321]

Let me be clear: I think May's a bum.

I'll go ahead and make a friendly wager with you now that May will play more meaningful minutes off the bench for Sac then whoever we end up signing for our backup 4 at the min.

We might as well give up now, if we can't find someone who's slightly better than bum. But the situations are much different, as is Sacramento has no shot at the playoffs, so they will be playing garbage time all season long. Not exactly the most competitive atmosphere for an injury prone fatso looking for minutes. And by meaningful minutes, do you mean meaningful in the sense of keeping his team from not getting blown out by more than 20 points every night?

Please describe meaningful in the case of Sean May.

Here's a good analogy:

Derrick Coleman was one of the biggest wastes of talent to ever play the game of basketball. In terms of dedication, May looks like rocky balboa next to him. But Coleman stuck around in the league for over a decade because, quite simply, he could play. Even overweight and giving 40% effort, teams later in his career recognized that he could still help them more (in terms of talent -- chemistry was a totally different story) than some no name scrub from then CBA / D-League.

Am I endorsing laziness - no. But we're talking about the one year veteran's minimum here.

And as far as the wager above, I would say its pretty safe to say that if we end up settling for another ernest brown type D Leaguer PF, any minutes they'll see will be every bit as garbage time as May's.

[Battery]

Here's a good analogy:

Derrick Coleman was one of the biggest wastes of talent to ever play the game of basketball. In terms of dedication, May looks like rocky balboa next to him. But Coleman stuck around in the league for over a decade because, quite simply, he could play. Even overweight and giving 40% effort, teams later in his career recognized that he could still help them more (in terms of talent -- chemistry was a totally different story) than some no name scrub from then CBA / D-League.

Am I endorsing laziness - no. But we're talking about the one year veteran's minimum here.

And as far as the wager above, I would say its pretty safe to say that if we end up settling for another ernest brown type D Leaguer PF, any minutes they'll see will be every bit as garbage time as May's.

No, that is a terrible analogy. If you want to use the lazy fatso comparison, show me where May has even come close to what Coleman did in college and early on his career. Derrick Coleman was a superstar in college, the number 1 overall pick, and won rookie of the year while averaging 18.4 PPG, 10.3 RPG 2.2 APG. Look at his next 4 seasons after that. All pretty damn good. So his first 5 seasons in the league were quite impressive from a statistical stand point, which I'm sure our good friend Paydro would agree.

No comparison. A more fair comparison would be Oliver Miller. And Miller was much more skilled than May. No thanks. Pass.