Homer Check: Corey Brewer

Narf · Post #1 » by **Narf** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:40 am

Throughout the offseason, I have had the opinion that we will not pick up Corey Brewer's contract and would offer him less than 3.7 million next year instead. To date, he has not played well enough to deserve that much money (especially in a down cap year). Our new front office has no ties to Brewer, after all, and he's not "one of their guys" like Flynn or Ellington. But I have recently changed my mind.

The argument for picking up his option:
-The front office mentioned Brewer, not Gomes, in their list of quality players to build around. That is a good signal that they'd like to keep him around.
-He is, clearly, a very good wing defender, a hustle player, a team-first high character guy, young and athletic. And we still need someone to guard the Kobe's and Wade's of the NBA for the next 6 years.
-While he has played out of control, that is something that can and should be corrected over time with coaching and experience. We have the coaching part covered.
-There have been reports that he has greatly improved his outside shooting, and he shot a stellar solid 3 point percentage in limited time last year (.

It's that last point that got me. If Brewer shoots 37% from 3 next year while marginally improving his strength, awareness, and all around game he's darn well worth 3.7 mil. That's essentially Bruce Bowen with better rebounding.

So am I crazy, or is Brewer actually going to be a good 3 point shooter next year? And if so (gulp), isn't he better than a volume scorer with no defense like Rudy Gay?

Post #2 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:07 am

Kid hardly played last year. All reports are that he has improved his confidence this summer and should contribute.

An argument I have heard often is that with the various things he brings to the table in terms of defense, energy, size, that he will be more valuable then Foye was last year. Small sample size but we are comparing a 47% TS that offers more than offense with a 51% TS that was overmatched defensively and inconsistent on offense.

I am bias, I am brewer's biggest fan. I think if his confidence stays high and his jumper is consistent that he will be a quality player that is either a long-term wing starter next to a scoring wing or a Josh Childress 6th man.

Here is a thread recently

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=941561

Vega06 · Post #3 » by **Vega06** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:13 am

I'm cautiously optimistic about Brewer this season. If he plays well I'm all for keeping him long term.

MLC84 · Post #4 » by **MLC84** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:42 am

I'd love to see him do well. But this is clearly the time for him to show something; looks like he should get plenty of opportunity to play and earn an extention. I just have not seen enough good things from him at this point to expect a committment from the organization - even for the 1 year option.

That is of course supposing that the Wolves expect to be active with real, live, actual free agent veterans next summer. Or perhaps the master plan is to tank for the next 2 years, and collect more of those those cheap, can't-miss rookie-contracts.

Krapinsky · Post #5 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:47 am

I think signing him to a Telfair/Craigers like deal should be considered over picking up the option.

Narf · Post #6 » by **Narf** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:11 am

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I think signing him to a Telfair/Craigers like deal should be considered over picking up the option.

That's what I was thinking a week ago. It's far from a sure thing, of course, but this comes down to 3 point shooting. Brewer shot over 40% last year in limited time and shot over 40% in summer league from 3. If that's legitimate improvement and everyone can see he's a good 3 point shooter now, he just stepped up to Travis Outlaw value. Maybe even a little higher.

Thanks for the link Rev.

Busch Legion · Post #7 » by **Busch Legion** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:14 am

I like Brewer, but I really want to keep Gomes, he is what I want in a 6th man..... he's a decent COMPLETE player....

I hope Brewer develops into what he can, i've read/heard Josh Smith comparisons.

Post #8 » by **Klomp** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:15 am

skydragonslashs wrote:I like Brewer, but I really want to keep Gomes, he is what I want in a 6th man..... he's a decent COMPLETE player....

I hope Brewer develops into what he can, i've read/heard Josh Smith comparisons.

Thats a bad comparison. I'd say more Trevor Ariza.

Krapinsky · Post #9 » by **Krapinsky** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:17 am

klomp44 wrote:
skydragonslashs wrote:I like Brewer, but I really want to keep Gomes, he is what I want in a 6th man..... he's a decent COMPLETE player....

I hope Brewer develops into what he can, i've read/heard Josh Smith comparisons.

Thats a bad comparison. I'd say more Trevor Ariza.

I think Josh Smith weighs about 100 pounds more than Brewer

Zeitgeister · Post #10 » by **Zeitgeister** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:31 am

If we want to move this team forward into being a playoff team and possibly a contender we need at least 2-3 guys that can consistently create offense for themselves and others to some extent. We already have one of those guys in Al Jefferson, but we need at least one to two more (Kevin Love may prove to be a very good third option), and we'll find out soon enough what we have in Jonny Flynn.

It'd still be nice to find a good scorer either at the shooting guard or small forward spot. Brewer is one of those remaining pieces that could be important IF he develops that three point shot. I'm not convinced he has it yet until I see it more consistently this year. Brewer can be a starter in this league if he can continue to provide high level defense and knock down the corner j.

I'm not a very big fan of Rudy Gay, but he might be the perimeter scorer/slasher type that we really need. Idk we'll have to wait and see how Brewer progresses.

jade_hippo · Post #11 » by **jade_hippo** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:47 am

Brewer doesn't even have to hit that many threes or be prolific, just need to be a threat to keep defenses honest ala Bowen and Raja Bell types. As long as he is the best defender on the court all he has to do is limit turnovers and hit wide open shots and I'll have his babies.

Post #12 » by **Worm Guts** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:48 pm

Zeitgeister wrote: Idk we'll have to wait and see how Brewer progresses.

The problem is we don't get to wait. We have to either pick up or decline his option in October.

funkatron101 · Post #13 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:35 pm

I have already written him off. Not fair of me, but I don't think of him as an impact player at all.

PeeDee · Post #14 » by **PeeDee** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:50 pm

At this point I'm inclined to treat him like Carney... Don't pick up that option, time to earn it...

Zeitgeister · Post #15 » by **Zeitgeister** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:29 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
Zeitgeister wrote: Idk we'll have to wait and see how Brewer progresses.

The problem is we don't get to wait. We have to either pick up or decline his option in October.

I have to agree with PeeDee here, decline the option and we'll resign him if he shows improvement over his rookie season.

Awoooga · Post #16 » by **Awoooga** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:54 pm

Brewer stinks, he was a waste of a top 10 pick. You do not make matters worse by signing him just because you spent alot to draft him. Cut your losses early. No jumper, below average handle and rai thin = NBDL player. You guys have young talent and have some cap flexibility do not waste it on a garbage player.

john2jer · Post #17 » by **john2jer** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:04 pm

Awoooga wrote:Brewer stinks, he was a waste of a top 10 pick. You do not make matters worse by signing him just because you spent alot to draft him. Cut your losses early. No jumper, below average handle and rai thin = NBDL player. You guys have young talent and have some cap flexibility do not waste it on a garbage player.

Yeah, he was terrible last year, oh wait...

I do agree on the Rodney Carney treatment, though. Decline the option and make him earn the contract. Him getting hurt last year was the worst possible scenario for both him and the Wolves. He needed to have a good year last year, and in the 15 games he played in he was good, but he needed a full year to show he was worth building with.

Awoooga · Post #18 » by **Awoooga** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:27 pm

Lol a number 7 pick puts up 6 points a game and 3 rebounds and plays for 15 games before blowing out his knee and your going to say alright, let's keep him long term. Go for it.

Post #19 » by **C.lupus** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:38 pm

I don't think anyone in this thread has said "alright, let's keep him long term".

john2jer · Post #20 » by **john2jer** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:13 pm

Awoooga wrote:Lol a number 7 pick puts up 6 points a game and 3 rebounds and plays for 15 games before blowing out his knee and your going to say alright, let's keep him long term. Go for it.

You seriously need to work on your reading comprehension. Which state's education system are you currently enrolled in? I want to make sure I never subject my kids to that system.