NBA Primetime's Top 3 Rookies Impact to Team. Blair at 2!

reebokforthree · Post #1 » by **reebokforthree** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:52 am

What three rookies are going to have the biggest impact to their team that is in contention for playoffs???

NBA Primetime breaks it down below!

http://mvn.com/nbaprimetime/2009/09/nba ... teams.html

co_laper · Post #2 » by **co_laper** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:29 am

Well, they're kinda the only rookies projected to get minutes on a playoff team.

I'm looking at ESPN's projected standings for each conference.

Looking at the top 8 teams in the West, only the Spurs look like they'll be giving a rookie consistent minutes.

And looking at the top 10 teams in the East, it's looking like only Philadelphia and Toronto is going to be giving their rookies consistent minutes.

Post #3 » by **Nolan** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:49 pm

I agree that Blair should be in the top three, but James Johnson should be on that list ahead of Jrue Holiday.

co_laper · Post #4 » by **co_laper** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:57 am

I don't think James Johnson is expected to contribute much in Chicago. The list is comprised more on guys who are expected to get minutes.

The Bulls already have Luol Deng as their starting SF. John Salmons should be getting some backup SF minutes too considering they're quite deep at the guard spot with Derrick Rose, Hinrich and Pargo. And I'm not sure if they're still experimenting with Tyrus Thomas as a SF anymore. But it sure doesn't look like James Johnson will be cracking the rotation getting 20 minutes for 82 games (which these 3 guys is expected to get)

Post #5 » by **Nolan** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:12 am

co_laper wrote:I don't think James Johnson is expected to contribute much in Chicago. The list is comprised more on guys who are expected to get minutes.

The Bulls already have Luol Deng as their starting SF. John Salmons should be getting some backup SF minutes too considering they're quite deep at the guard spot with Derrick Rose, Hinrich and Pargo. And I'm not sure if they're still experimenting with Tyrus Thomas as a SF anymore. But it sure doesn't look like James Johnson will be cracking the rotation getting 20 minutes for 82 games (which these 3 guys is expected to get)

Bulls fans seem to think he'll be getting alot of burn and so do I. Salmons is going to be playing alot of SG and Tyrus is going to be their primary PF. So that only really leaves them with three other bigs, those being Noah, Miller and Johnson. So at the least I see him being Thomas primary back up which should give him plenty of minutes given the fact that Thomas gets into foul trouble pretty often. I think he'll also get some minutes behind Deng too.

co_laper · Post #6 » by **co_laper** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:13 am

Well I'm not a Bulls fan so ofcourse I wouldn't know what they're going to do.

Looking at the minutes of Noah, Miller, and Tyrus, there does seem to be a lot of minutes available at PF position. Brad and Tyrus played 28 minutes each last year. Noah gets 24. So there's 16 available minutes from the PF position. Personally, when the rotation is shorten, I think that's when James Johnson's minutes are cut. 28, 28, and 24 are low minutes for them 3. Before I checked out their minutes, I was gonna guess Brad gets 32, Tyrus gets 30, and Noah gets like 34.

SF minutes thou is one position I don't think will have minutes available for James Johnson unless it's because of injuries.

Salmons will be the starting SG but he'll most likely switch over to SF when Deng is not on the floor because they'll have to give minutes to Hinrich and Pargo.

Personally, I just don't see Johnson being much of a contributor to that Bulls squad. They're not good enough to go 10 deep comes March and Playoff time. So they'll have to shorten the rotation to about 8 guys getting 20+ minutes while perhaps a 9th guy getting 10 or so.

As far as the article goes, I do think Jrue holiday will probably contribute more to the 76ers than James Johnson will do for the Bulls.

Holiday is expected to get atleast 20 minutes behind Lou Williams and a good possibility to take over that starting position.

Post #7 » by **Nolan** » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:10 am

I agree that he won't get many minutes at SF and that the Bulls will need to shorten their rotation later in the season. But I don't think they can afford to play with three bigs, espically given that their three bigs are not all that great to begin with.

I really see Holiday's and Johnson's situations being similar. I really don't think Williams or Thomas are starting material and I see opportunities for Holiday and Johnson to slip in and steal some major minutes or possibly even a starting spot. I just think Johnson is more NBA ready and is more capable of being a difference maker early on. But I guess we'll see what happens come the regular season.

realfung · Post #8 » by **realfung** » Wed Oct 7, 2009 11:41 pm

Not Blair come on, you guys are loaded in your roster.
How come he be a BIG impact???

Post #9 » by **Nolan** » Thu Oct 8, 2009 12:15 pm

realfung wrote:Not Blair come on, you guys are loaded in your roster.
How come he be a BIG impact???

He's gonna get lots of minutes being the 3rd or 4th big in our rotation, plus the guys a beast and can rebound like its nobody's business. He put up 16/19 in his first preseason game, so if thats a sign of things to come he's gonna have a big impact in the regular season.

LyMinh · Post #10 » by **LyMinh** » Thu Oct 8, 2009 8:57 pm

Of course he's gonna get minutes. He's competing with Matt Bonner (a stiff) and Antonio McDyess (an old verteran).

SApuro_ · Post #11 » by **SApuro_** » Fri Oct 9, 2009 5:53 am

I can see Blair being high on everyone's list. The Spurs lacked rebounding last year and thats exactly what his specialty. He has proven in college and in pre-season that the kid can rebound. I think as the season goes on pop is going to trust him more and feed additional minutes his way.

Dice can still play but if we could keep him fresh through the season that would be a huge plus. The more this team starts coming together the more I don't see a spot for Bonner.

co_laper · Post #12 » by **co_laper** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:25 am

Matchups and which big is on the floor with him will also have a lot to do with how consistent Blair's minutes are.

The Spurs will most likely be satisfied with his rebounding, but there's more to playing defense than rebounding. If Blair is on the floor with Duncan, then the Spurs aren't gonna put Duncan on the opposing best player. Blair will do that. So how will he fare defensively againts the likes of premiere scoring bigs in this league? Blair is a very good rebounder, but he'll get eaten alive by the likes of Amare Stoudamire or Carlos Boozer.

If he's matched up againts guys like Houston have where they have guys like Landry and Dorsey, then we can play Blair.

Dallas is a team that comes to mind when I can't see how Blair contributes. Put him on Dirk? no way. Let Duncan guard Dirk? No way. Put Blair on Dampier? Dampier is not Thabeet. The guy knows how to rebound. He's not only taller, bigger, and more experienced. How's he gonna fare?

myconsumerclub · Post #13 » by **myconsumerclub** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:19 am

Blair was a great pick up as his most recent performance has shown and he can help if he allows you to move Duncan to center a bit with him at the 4.

Dallas has Dirk and Gooden seems to have found new life there but what you need to be aware of is Rodrique Beauboise is not going to be a typical rookie as he may play a lot of D against Parker being he is fast as all but the most fleet of foot and his leaping and shooting ability is that of the best in the whole league. Kidd can gaurd 2 gaurds and still play the 1 on offense while Roddy is able to gaurd Parker on D and serve as a 2 on offense with 3 point range and driving ability that begs to be given free reign so that we can witness his awesome speed.

Truly he will be a star in this league and restore youth to the rotation. This is evident to all mavs fans who witnessed the advent of Harris. Roddy is showing much more ability than Harris and is rumoured to be marked for rotation duty against San Antonios Parker. With Harris' ability to cause Parker trouble I would greatly enjoy being the one to tell you that Roddy is every bit likely to be that and more. No holes in the mavericks now exist for you to exploit.

Our sole remaining weak link is at the 5 were you have none to speak of. That being the case I would like to say that the Mavs will look forward to a matchup with the Lakers in the WCF and if you want to see a Texas team victorious you need to switch your allegiance to the mavericks this season because it will be obvious very shortly that they are indeed very real this season and that our off season moves were fully several measures more than necesssary to remain ahead of the spurs.

co_laper · Post #14 » by **co_laper** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:50 pm

Now I'll honestly say I laughed at that post right there.

Bragging about Beauboise? you gotta be kidding me? I'll say the kid is fast but there's more to the game than being fast. Heck, he's not even gonna be in the rotation. I'll bet my ass that Dallas will rely on Kidd, Howard, Terry, and Barea as their Guard rotation. I don't even believe he's gonna beat out Barea for minutes. Barea, however, did give us fits last year looking like Steve Nash at times (even Parker said that) by getting repeatedly to the lanes.

If the Mavs end the season giving Beauboise huge minutes playing alongside Kidd, then Howard must suck as a SG and Terry had a season ending injury.

boogydown · Post #15 » by **boogydown** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:33 am

Since when is

A). Toronto
B). Philadelphia

Playoff bound

James Johnson deserves to be on the list. He is playing solid in the preseason as well as Taj Gibson. If they continue to play this good, no reason they shouldn't contribute.

Blame Rasho · Post #16 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:04 pm

Dallas has Dirk and Gooden seems to have found new life there but what you need to be aware of is Rodrique Beauboise is not going to be a typical rookie as he may play a lot of D against Parker being he is fast as all but the most fleet of foot and his leaping and shooting ability is that of the best in the whole league. Kidd can gaurd 2 gaurds and still play the 1 on offense while Roddy is able to gaurd Parker on D and serve as a 2 on offense with 3 point range and driving ability that begs to be given free reign so that we can witness his awesome speed.

Truly he will be a star in this league and restore youth to the rotation. This is evident to all mavs fans who witnessed the advent of Harris. Roddy is showing much more ability than Harris and is rumoured to be marked for rotation duty against San Antonios Parker. With Harris' ability to cause Parker trouble I would greatly enjoy being the one to tell you that Roddy is every bit likely to be that and more. No holes in the mavericks now exist for you to exploit.

Do you really expect us to take you seriously?

Blame Rasho · Post #17 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:06 pm

Nolan wrote:I agree that Blair should be in the top three, but James Johnson should be on that list ahead of Jrue Holiday.

I like his game alot, I think it isn't unreasonable to expect him to have a better year than Tyrus Thomas. I mean I don't get that guy... he has all the talent in the world but he just doesn't get it. He likes to shoot jumpers like if he is Ray Allen and doesn't bulk up and play in the post.

Blame Rasho · Post #18 » by **Blame Rasho** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:08 pm

SApuro_ wrote:I can see Blair being high on everyone's list. The Spurs lacked rebounding last year and thats exactly what his specialty. He has proven in college and in pre-season that the kid can rebound. I think as the season goes on pop is going to trust him more and feed additional minutes his way.

Dice can still play but if we could keep him fresh through the season that would be a huge plus. The more this team starts coming together the more I don't see a spot for Bonner.

All I want him is to rebound and with the recent trend of going small... having a rebounder like him on the floor is a great asset. We can boast a lineup of Duncan, Blair, and Jefferson who can really solidify our rebounding. Not to mention that Manu is a great rebounder for a guard.