CAN A "TEAM EUROPE" BEAT the best "TEAM USA"???

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Re: CAN A "TEAM EUROPE" BEAT the best "TEAM USA"??? 

Post#61 » by wushui » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:47 am

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wushui wrote:Anyway, I think an all-team Europe or world would give an all-team USA fits if they were playing under FIBA rules. With NBA regulations however, USA would flat out dominate.


I agree. I think an all-team Rest of the World would beat an all-team USA under FIBA rules. Even the top american players aren't really good playing and attacking zones or dealing with hand-checking and moving screens. I don't think an European team would be enough, you'd need the Argentinians and Yao.

Parker/Nash/Diamantidis
Ginobili/Navarro/Rakocevic
Siskauskas/Hedo/Papaloukas
Dirk/Gasol/Scola
Yao/Bogut/Splitter


Scola, Bogut and Splitter are better than Bargnani? :(


I would take Scola and Bogut over Bargnani -- why not? Scola has proven himself in both Europe and the NBA, while Bargnani hasn't done either. Bogut is injury prone, but when 100% healthy, he's a tough center that can do everything better than Bargnani with the exception hitting jump shots and free throws. I don't know much about Splitter though.
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Post#62 » by penzias » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:02 pm

jt142 wrote:Excuses, excuses, excuses........

Spain shot 51% from the field, 47% from 3, 82% from FT line, and still lost. If Fernandez had a bad day, Spain would have lost by more pts. You can spin it any way you want, but Spain still lost. They are the #1 loser (2nd place).

To make matters worse, USA beat Spain in soccer. :lol:

How about Dwayne Wade impersonating Reggie Miller?
Spain played without his starting PG and with the 2nd PG injured for most of the game.
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Post#63 » by bigbreakfast » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:15 am

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Post#64 » by MoMM » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:06 pm

BTW, Splitter is brazilian.

No love for Leandro Barbosa? He always plays well on FIBA Tournaments.
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Post#65 » by justfan » Tue Sep 8, 2009 11:05 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:Also Okur does not count as European.


Why is that?
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Post#66 » by Mumbles » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:58 pm

Maybe a world team..Europe not good enough...
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Post#67 » by I Feel Devotion » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:01 pm

All-European Team that could beat the best Team USA is:

PG Vasilios Spanoulis/Sarunas Jasikevicius/Theo Papaloukas
SG Dimitrios Diamantidis/Juan Carlos Navarro
SF Hedo Turkoglu/Ramunas Siskuaskas
PF Dirk Nowitzki/Andrei Kirilenko
C Pau Gasol/Nikola Pekovic/Yiannis Bourousis

I would leave guys like Ben Gordon and Tony Parker out because they would not fit well enough to the team (even though Parker and Gordon could certainly make the roster, they would not help the team as much as those other guys because of team fit). Also, Okur I would leave out because I think those 3 centers there are all better than him.

I would leave Rudy Fernandez out because he gets all the hype from NBA fans but he's not good enough for me to make that roster, same for Luol Deng - not good enough to make that roster. Calderon would be very close, probably the last guy I would leave out, but those other guards are all just better than him. But he would probably be the 13th guy for me.

NBA fans are putting together an all Europe roster based on NBA only players, which does not work because 8 out of the top 14 European players play in Europe and not in the NBA. Personally, I think that roster would beat any roster the US could put together.
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Post#68 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:55 pm

Is anyone even surprised he put in Spanoulis as the starting PG? :lol: :lol:
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Post#69 » by Alyosha12 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:38 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Is anyone even surprised he put in Spanoulis as the starting PG? :lol: :lol:


How many user names has he changed in a year i would have to say around 6? Thats only counting realgm not talkbasket and interbasket lol...
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Post#70 » by Alyosha12 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:39 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Is anyone even surprised he put in Spanoulis as the starting PG? :lol: :lol:


How many user names has he changed in a year i would have to say around 6? Thats only counting realgm not talkbasket and interbasket lol...

Oh and on topic Erazem Lorbek is slowly becoming the most skilled center in Europe! I wonder why pacers fans don't give him any attention?
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Post#71 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:53 pm

I think he is the most skilled center in Europe offensively. His footwork is incredible. If he was a bit stronger and more athletic, he could be a top 15 C in the NBA.
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Post#72 » by peja_the_legend » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:55 pm

I Feel Devotion wrote:All-European Team that could beat the best Team USA is:

PG Vasilios Spanoulis/Sarunas Jasikevicius/Theo Papaloukas
SG Dimitrios Diamantidis/Juan Carlos Navarro
SF Hedo Turkoglu/Ramunas Siskuaskas
PF Dirk Nowitzki/Andrei Kirilenko
C Pau Gasol/Nikola Pekovic/Yiannis Bourousis
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Post#73 » by I Feel Devotion » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:27 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:I think he is the most skilled center in Europe offensively. His footwork is incredible. If he was a bit stronger and more athletic, he could be a top 15 C in the NBA.


Lorbek is a very good offensive player. However he is not even close to as good as Pekovic on the offensive end. Pekovic is definitely in another level from him.
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Post#74 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:51 pm

I said skilled. There is no way you can argue that Pekovic has more skills on the offensive end than Lorbek.
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Post#75 » by I Feel Devotion » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:00 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:I said skilled. There is no way you can argue that Pekovic has more skills on the offensive end than Lorbek.


What do you mean by skills? Pekovic has better foot work, better post moves, and he is a better player using either hand to get off shots and to finish. Lorbek is a better face up player and a better shooter. Actually, Lorbek's skill set is clearly that of a power forward and not a center. I'm not saying Lorbek isn't good because he's probably the third best forward/center in Europe.

But Pekovic is an absolute monster.
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Post#76 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:04 pm

Fine. You're completely wrong and we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Post#77 » by morol » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:27 am

Alyosha12 wrote:Oh and on topic Erazem Lorbek is slowly becoming the most skilled center in Europe! I wonder why pacers fans don't give him any attention?


Probably because Gortat is gonna eat his head today, and what use is a headless player?
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Post#78 » by BadWolf » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:35 pm

who's headless now?
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Post#79 » by Alyosha12 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:58 pm

morol wrote:
Alyosha12 wrote:Oh and on topic Erazem Lorbek is slowly becoming the most skilled center in Europe! I wonder why pacers fans don't give him any attention?


Probably because Gortat is gonna eat his head today, and what use is a headless player?


Erazem Lorbek 20 points 9 rebounds 5 assists and Gortat with 9 points and 10 rebounds going 2/10 from the field LOL. Yeah poor Lorbek ROFL...
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Post#80 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:08 pm

Damn, I wanted to be the first to rub it in his face. :lol:
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