Talk about paranoia

[ParticleMan]

i can't believe all these sky-is-falling threads about KG.

Doc and Danny have said he's doing well.

somehow this is getting read as "KG is recovering really slowly and won't be ready for opening night and might miss the entire season and his career is in jeopardy."

[Dogen]

i can't believe all these sky-is-falling threads about KG.

Doc and Danny have said he's doing well.

somehow this is getting read as "KG is recovering really slowly and won't be ready for opening night and might miss the entire season and his career is in jeopardy."

Is this thread supposed to be directed at me!?!?!

[Cyclical]

Can't be too hard on them - there was positive KG knee talk towards the end of last season from Doc and Danny only for them to be proven wrong come playoff time.
I'm personally cautiously optimistic but would not at all be surprised if KG experiences more problems during the season. 33 year old knees don't often recover perfectly with NBA level stress. The best we can do is just cross our fingers and hope for the best,

[Dirty Water]

FACT: This knee injury has been completely mismanaged by the Celtics. FACT.

[Scalamental]

FACT: This knee injury has been completely mismanaged by the Celtics. FACT.

Do you really feel this way? What would you have done differently up to this point?

[SonicYouth34]

I'm not worried. KG, like Pierce, has been an ironman throughout his career. He'll be fine by the playoffs where it really matter.

[hairybyrd]

i can't believe all these sky-is-falling threads about KG.

Doc and Danny have said he's doing well.

somehow this is getting read as "KG is recovering really slowly and won't be ready for opening night and might miss the entire season and his career is in jeopardy."

I posted a "what if KG doesn't come back" thread earlier today. I have no reason to believe he won't be playing this year which is why I clearly stated I was playing devil's advocate. Nobody really thinks the sky is falling but hopefully we can all agree that Celts management isn't being 100% truthful. Maybe it's too much to expect, anyway. Besides, what else is there to talk about right now?

Here's my problem...When KG injured his knee on February 19 the Celts said it was nothing serious. Then, he was supposed to be sidelined for a month. And then we hear that he's coming back for the playoffs. And then we hear that he's resting until next season. And then, 8 months later we hear that "we're taking it day by day." This doesn't incite any confidence.

It's one of those things where I have no reason to believe he's healthy as much as I have no reason to believe he's still hurt but I think that KG's best days are behind him and would venture to argue (contrary to ParticleMan's opinion) that his career is in jeopardy.

[Dirty Water]

FACT: This knee injury has been completely mismanaged by the Celtics. FACT.

Do you really feel this way? What would you have done differently up to this point?

Get the procedure done right away on Garnett so he is completely ready no set backs 110% healthy for this season. Instead of waiting around pretending like they were gonna play him in the playoffs. Play him or don't. It's not like playing in 7 games instead of 14 will make that much of a difference.

[Bad-Thoma]

FACT: This knee injury has been completely mismanaged by the Celtics. FACT.

Wow, I was really questioning whether or not you knew more than the team training staff who deal directly with the most important player on the team on a daily basis until you wrote FACT twice in capital letters. I stand corrected.

Hindsight is 20/20. They tried to get KG back for the playoffs and make a run at a title and it didn't work out, medicine isn't cut and dry no matter how good the doctors involved. If they had shut KG down and there was a hint that maybe he could have been ready for the playoffs without surgery the same know-it-alls would be all up in arms because we could have won a title if we had KG.

[joneb]

I think a little concern is warranted because of the murky nature of the info we have regarding his injury/surgery. On the one hand, there are reports that the surgery only involved the removal of bone spurs, and that his tendon injury will be treated with rest and rehab. Then there are reports that major surgery was done on his knee that involved staples being used to re-attach his tendons. I'm not really sure which of these two divergent reports to believe. The thing that gives me hope, however, is knowing how hot the fire burns inside of KG. If anyone can muster the will power necessary to overcome a major injury to his knee, it's Mr. Garnett.

Is there a consensus on this board about the nature of KG's surgery? Was it just bone spurs, or was tendon re-attachment done?

[Havlicek17]

By all reports KG appears to be on track, and should be healthy for the start of the season. Is he going to stay healthy all season long....who knows. The Celtics don't know, his doctors don't know, nobody on this board knows. We'll see.

The original post talked about the Celtics mis-information on KG's status going into and during the playoffs last season. Although I think the Celts did this to keep their opponents off balance, the topic is still valid. After watching professional sports for a lot of years, I don't trust any injury reports. Injury reports are a joke! If a team thinks it can get an edge by reporting one way or another, they will stretch the truth. If it'll help season ticket sales, it'll happen. There are no independent league doctors checking these guys out. It's handled by the teams doctors and the teams have a stake in what's being reported. No way, they are 100% honest about it.

To me it doesn't matter if KG starts the season healthy or not. Will he be healthy come playoff time? Nobody knows. NOBODY!

We can only hope KG stays healthy. If he doesn't, I am curious if people on this board think we still have a shot at a ring.

[sully00]

FACT: This knee injury has been completely mismanaged by the Celtics. FACT.

Do you really feel this way? What would you have done differently up to this point?

Get the procedure done right away on Garnett so he is completely ready no set backs 110% healthy for this season. Instead of waiting around pretending like they were gonna play him in the playoffs. Play him or don't. It's not like playing in 7 games instead of 14 will make that much of a difference.

FACT - Dr. Dirty Water doesn't know what he is talking about. They did exactly what they were supposed to do with the injury it just did not heal on its own. Getting any procedure done was the end of his season whether they did it in FEB or JUNE and they didn't want to have to do a procedure for this injury. That is what is a FACT.

[eris]

FACT - Dr. Dirty Water doesn't know what he is talking about. They did exactly what they were supposed to do with the injury it just did not heal on its own. Getting any procedure done was the end of his season whether they did it in FEB or JUNE and they didn't want to have to do a procedure for this injury. That is what is a FACT.

KG's bone spur(s) was there before he strained his tendon. It probably didn't bother him much until then, but with the strained (irritated and inflamed) tendon being continually rubbed by the spur he was in pain whenever he tried to move around. The hope was that rest would allow his 'inflamed' tendon to heal...leave it alone, rest it and it will become less sensitive, then when you move around it won't get irritated and give him pain. As it turns out, that didn't work, and every time KG attempted to come back (work out) his tendon would get irritated all over again, and he would have to sit back down and start resting his knee again.

Removing bone spurs isn't a big operation, but it would have meant KG having to sit out a month or two, making it certain he'd miss the rest of the regular season and maybe the playoffs, too. By the time it was clear...to everyone, including KG...that removing the bone spur was going to have to be done before he got any real relief, it was too late for it to matter, KG wasn't going to play without that pain in the playoffs.

INAD (and INAL either), but as a fan looking in that's the situation as I understood it.

Now, could KG have played through the pain? Maybe, but that would have, probably, been a bad idea. Compensating for pain in one area often leads to injuries (career ending in some cases) in other areas. IAC, it was decided not to risk it...decided by Doc and Danny, probably ownership had something to say about it too. I suspect that KG's vote would have been to play, on one leg if need be, but he got outvoted. Danny has to keep a "long term" view of things, that's part of his job.

KG had the surgery to remove the bone spurs the last of May, yes? Two months of rest to recover from the surgery brings us to the first of August. Let's say, he was doing light workouts...rehabbing...in August..did we hear that? Reports now is that he has been cleared for more strenuous workouts, but not games...that's September. Doc and Danny expect him to be "ready to practice" by training camp...that's October. And if what we were told right after the surgery ("didn't have to touch the tendon, just cleaned out some loose bits and removed a bone spur") all that sounds about right to me.

I expect KG to be fully recovered and ready to go by the beginning of the season. I also expect that Doc will want to limit KG's minutes to keep him healthy...same for Pierce and Allen. I thought Doc would do that last year, too, so whether that will actually happen or not I don't know.

[Kefa461]

I can't wait for camp to start so these questions can be answered and folks can rest their paranoid minds

[Zin5]

KG's knee injury was an inside job. Ainge did 9/11.