Kahn on Antonio Daniels and other matters

[Vega06]

Some interesting notes in this article.

http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wol ... r-matters/

He said he would trade Daniels to a team where he can play more — as he did by dealing Richardson to Miami for Blount — if he can get a similar expiring $6.6 million contract in return. Kahn said he believes helping players in that situation if possible is a bit of goodwill that eventually will benefit the franchise with other players down the road.

* He expects Al Jefferson and Corey Brewer to be ready to participate fully when camp starts Tuesday, but said Jefferson might sit for portions or all of the second half of two-a-days as a precaution or if he’s sore in his return from February knee surgery.

* He said he still considers Flynn the team’s starting point guard even with the signing of Sessions, although he said that decision belongs to new coach Kurt Rambis and training-camp play could change things.

[B Calrissian]

I had no idea that Pecherov broke his hand.

[revprodeji]

I hope Kahn was making funny faces whenever Jay-Z wrote with crayon.

Stewie will be fine, we would not have noticed. But honestly, I would like to see him get the 4th big man minutes after Al/love/hollins. Just because his P/P skillset could be a nice fit and it would allow Gomes to focus on the 3.

[GopherIt!]

He said he would trade Daniels to a team where he can play more — as he did by dealing Richardson to Miami for Blount — if he can get a similar expiring $6.6 million contract in return. Kahn said he believes helping players in that situation if possible is a bit of goodwill that eventually will benefit the franchise with other players down the road.

There are not a lot of options for Daniels, this is the best I could come up with:

Daniels 6.6M to LAL for Ammo 5.25M
Daniels to BOS for Scal/T Allen 5.9M
Daniels to HOU for Cook/Barry 5.5M
Daniels to CHI for J James 6.6M

I'm not crazy about any of those ideas. We need to hang on to a few expirings so we can
potentially make a trade later on. Anyone got anything better?

[B Calrissian]

He said he would trade Daniels to a team where he can play more — as he did by dealing Richardson to Miami for Blount — if he can get a similar expiring $6.6 million contract in return. Kahn said he believes helping players in that situation if possible is a bit of goodwill that eventually will benefit the franchise with other players down the road.

There are not a lot of options for Daniels, this is the best I could come up with:

Daniels 6.6M to LAL for Ammo 5.25M
Daniels to BOS for Scal/T Allen 5.9M
Daniels to HOU for Cook/Barry 5.5M
Daniels to CHI for J James 6.6M

I'm not crazy about any of those ideas. We need to hang on to a few expirings so we can
potentially make a trade later on. Anyone got anything better?

If half the point of trading him is so he can get minutes I don't see how LA, CHI, or HOU would be good fits at all.
LA has Fish, Farmar, and Brown.
HOU has Brooks and Lowry.
CHI has Rose and Kirk "would you trade a fake expiring for me?" Hinrich. Plus JJ is covered by insurance, I think.

I like the Boston idea though. Who is their back up PG right now? Eddie House?

* I forgot that they signed Marquis Daniels.. So there wouldn't be many minutes for AD in Boston either.

[the_bruce]

ridnour for daniels

[B Calrissian]

ridnour for daniels

Why would either team do this? Ridnour is better than Daniels and the Bucks need a pg capable of playing more than spot minutes. The Wolves don't need a pg that will want minutes when they already have two. I guess it would make sense for the Wolves if Ridnour is paid less (shamsports is down and I am too lazy to look elsewhere) then they could trade Ridnour for a smaller contract, and repeat.

[shrink]

MIL may consider Ridnour for Daniels simply because they want to get rid of him, but I don't know. Its not like we can use either guy, so maybe a three-way.

If we're simply going to buy out the guy, we could send Antonio Daniels back to WAS for .. Mike James. Reunite Blount and James! Daniels has some play-off experience.

I was under the impression Antonio Daniels didn't have a lot left?

[Narf]

We could trade him to NY for Darko + $1 million. That would save NY something like $900,000 in luxury taxes. They like Darko though, not sure they'd want to downgrade their team's talent.

Delonte West has an expiring. West + JJ Hickson makes some sense for us. I'm not sure how Cleveland feels about West.

Blount for J James makes sense to me, but I'd want more than that back from Chicago if it's Daniels. Even if it's just cash.

NJ might take him for Trenton Hassell and Sean Williams. Williams is their resident headcase, and Daniels would be a good guy to pair with (and mentor) Devin Harris (and Keyon Dooling for that matter). They might want a 2nd rounder back (we have a couple of those lying around).

Detroit just spent all this money and has Will Bynum backing them up at PG. I don't really see how to make that one work money wise without adding talent or a 3rd team though.

[john2jer]

We could trade him to NY for Darko + $1 million. That would save NY something like $900,000 in luxury taxes. They like Darko though, not sure they'd want to downgrade their team's talent.

Delonte West has an expiring. West + JJ Hickson makes some sense for us. I'm not sure how Cleveland feels about West.

Blount for J James makes sense to me, but I'd want more than that back from Chicago if it's Daniels. Even if it's just cash.

NJ might take him for Trenton Hassell and Sean Williams. Williams is their resident headcase, and Daniels would be a good guy to pair with (and mentor) Devin Harris (and Keyon Dooling for that matter). They might want a 2nd rounder back (we have a couple of those lying around).

Detroit just spent all this money and has Will Bynum backing them up at PG. I don't really see how to make that one work money wise without adding talent or a 3rd team though.

None of those teams make that trade.

Darko will fit in well with D'Antoni's system, Daniels would do nothing. Cavs really like both West and Hickson. JJ is covered by insurance for Chicago and they already have a big back-up PG in Hinrich. Sean Williams, despite being a headcase, does have some potential to turn out ok still. They're a rebuilding team, they don't need 56 year old third string point guards. Detroit likes Will Bynum, he's got spunk.

The best option I've seen posted is Daniels for AMMO, if the Lakers didn't already have their ancient PG in Fisher.

[InBoobieWeTrust]

What about Daniels for Szczerbiak(S&T, 3Y-16M...just enough to fit under the 125%+100,000 rule, 2nd and third years are team options, essentially an expiring). We could also send you cash and a future 2nd rounder or the rights to one of our overseas guys(Emir Predlzic)?

[john2jer]

What about Daniels for Szczerbiak(S&T, 3Y-16M...just enough to fit under the 125%+100,000 rule, 2nd and third years are team options, essentially an expiring). We could also send you cash and a future 2nd rounder or the rights to one of our overseas guys(Emir Predlzic)?

That's not terrible. Kind of like buying Daniels out at a reduced rate, we just don't gain the roster spot. The cash and future 2nd makes it even nicer because Wally becomes cheaper salary-wise with the cash, and if it's a future 2nd we're gambling on Cleveland not retaining LeBron for it to have any value, or maybe it ends up being a Manu type shot in the dark.

Wally also adds in outside shooting and fills the role of "face to wipe your shoes off" that some people were hoping we could get Chase Buddinger for.

{Insert Bruce Bowen}

Wally also gives someone for the teenage girls to cheer for from October to March when Joe Mauer is up at his cabin.

[Narf]

We could trade him to NY for Darko + $1 million. That would save NY something like $900,000 in luxury taxes. They like Darko though, not sure they'd want to downgrade their team's talent.

Delonte West has an expiring. West + JJ Hickson makes some sense for us. I'm not sure how Cleveland feels about West.

Blount for J James makes sense to me, but I'd want more than that back from Chicago if it's Daniels. Even if it's just cash.

NJ might take him for Trenton Hassell and Sean Williams. Williams is their resident headcase, and Daniels would be a good guy to pair with (and mentor) Devin Harris (and Keyon Dooling for that matter). They might want a 2nd rounder back (we have a couple of those lying around).

Detroit just spent all this money and has Will Bynum backing them up at PG. I don't really see how to make that one work money wise without adding talent or a 3rd team though.

None of those teams make that trade.

Darko will fit in well with D'Antoni's system, Daniels would do nothing. Cavs really like both West and Hickson. JJ is covered by insurance for Chicago and they already have a big back-up PG in Hinrich. Sean Williams, despite being a headcase, does have some potential to turn out ok still. They're a rebuilding team, they don't need 56 year old third string point guards. Detroit likes Will Bynum, he's got spunk.

The best option I've seen posted is Daniels for AMMO, if the Lakers didn't already have their ancient PG in Fisher.

West has a personality disorder and was driving around with 3 loaded guns. He will end up in court and possibly even jail for a short period of time and be suspended as well. He might also have more issues that we are not aware of at this moment requiring treatment. I agree it's not likely, but it's not out of the question. Especially if his emotional problems carried over to the lockerroom.

I honestly have no idea how high they are on Hickson, but he's one of 5 PFs on that team and played 11.4 minutes per game last year. He's not that important to this deal, he's just a number.

I already said NY probably doesn't do Darko.

Sean Williams is NJ's version of McCants. I'm not sold that they don't want to dump him. From what I can tell, if they get any value for him they'll happily cut ties with him.

And I don't know why but I forgot about Jerome James insurance again. Daniels is a good fit there though. He is a combo guard and solid insurance for injury. They have very little depth at SG and SF and Hinrich and Deng are their most injury prone players.

[wolves_fan_82au]

so who will kahn want to get rid of next maybe flynn??? maybe sessions???? maybe al jefferson ??

[InBoobieWeTrust]

We could trade him to NY for Darko + $1 million. That would save NY something like $900,000 in luxury taxes. They like Darko though, not sure they'd want to downgrade their team's talent.

Delonte West has an expiring. West + JJ Hickson makes some sense for us. I'm not sure how Cleveland feels about West.

Blount for J James makes sense to me, but I'd want more than that back from Chicago if it's Daniels. Even if it's just cash.

NJ might take him for Trenton Hassell and Sean Williams. Williams is their resident headcase, and Daniels would be a good guy to pair with (and mentor) Devin Harris (and Keyon Dooling for that matter). They might want a 2nd rounder back (we have a couple of those lying around).

Detroit just spent all this money and has Will Bynum backing them up at PG. I don't really see how to make that one work money wise without adding talent or a 3rd team though.

None of those teams make that trade.

Darko will fit in well with D'Antoni's system, Daniels would do nothing. Cavs really like both West and Hickson. JJ is covered by insurance for Chicago and they already have a big back-up PG in Hinrich. Sean Williams, despite being a headcase, does have some potential to turn out ok still. They're a rebuilding team, they don't need 56 year old third string point guards. Detroit likes Will Bynum, he's got spunk.

The best option I've seen posted is Daniels for AMMO, if the Lakers didn't already have their ancient PG in Fisher.

West has a personality disorder and was driving around with 3 loaded guns. He will end up in court and possibly even jail for a short period of time and be suspended as well. He might also have more issues that we are not aware of at this moment requiring treatment. I agree it's not likely, but it's not out of the question. Especially if his emotional problems carried over to the lockerroom.

I honestly have no idea how high they are on Hickson, but he's one of 5 PFs on that team and played 11.4 minutes per game last year. He's not that important to this deal, he's just a number.

I already said NY probably doesn't do Darko.

Sean Williams is NJ's version of McCants. I'm not sold that they don't want to dump him. From what I can tell, if they get any value for him they'll happily cut ties with him.

And I don't know why but I forgot about Jerome James insurance again. Daniels is a good fit there though. He is a combo guard and solid insurance for injury. They have very little depth at SG and SF and Hinrich and Deng are their most injury prone players.

No, he's right, the Cavs like WEst and Hickson, no chance we send either of them, let alone both for Daniels.

[Narf]

What about Daniels for Szczerbiak(S&T, 3Y-16M...just enough to fit under the 125%+100,000 rule, 2nd and third years are team options, essentially an expiring). We could also send you cash and a future 2nd rounder or the rights to one of our overseas guys(Emir Predlzic)?

That's not terrible. Kind of like buying Daniels out at a reduced rate, we just don't gain the roster spot. The cash and future 2nd makes it even nicer because Wally becomes cheaper salary-wise with the cash, and if it's a future 2nd we're gambling on Cleveland not retaining LeBron for it to have any value, or maybe it ends up being a Manu type shot in the dark.

Wally also adds in outside shooting and fills the role of "face to wipe your shoes off" that some people were hoping we could get Chase Buddinger for.

{Insert Bruce Bowen}

Wally also gives someone for the teenage girls to cheer for from October to March when Joe Mauer is up at his cabin.

Agreed. I don't think Cleveland would even need to throw in a pick. I think the Wolves would be happy just saving money on the deal for Daniels.

[Fido]

If you don't need a player back but just a trade piece for later, Utah has Harpring at $6.5 mill in his last year--he will miss training camp, pre-season, and the early games and be reevaluated at some point but knee and ankle injuries likely keep him out the rest of the season. Insurance covers most of his deal if he plays less than 50% of the season.

[john2jer]

Daniels is a SF now? Huh? Hinrich today is like a rich man's version of what Daniels was in his prime. No reason for the Bulls to trade for Daniels.

Williams is definitely a knucklehead, but no reason for the Nets to trade someone with good athleticism for someoe who is on his last contract, likely. They're not looking to just cut ties. They're likely aware they wouldn't get much if they wanted to trade him, they just don't want to trade him for nothing, though.

West is a bonehead and continuing to make legal mistakes. Hickson, in my opinion, is grossly over-rated, but Cleveland loves them both. West is a great combo guard for them when he's mentally healthy. Hickson is probably their best prospect and given minutes could at least turn into a very serviceable rotation player. Plus aren't he and Bron Bron besties?

[GopherIt!]

If half the point of trading him is so he can get minutes I don't see how LA, CHI, or HOU would be good fits at all.
LA has Fish, Farmar, and Brown.
HOU has Brooks and Lowry.
CHI has Rose and Kirk "would you trade a fake expiring for me?" Hinrich. Plus JJ is covered by insurance, I think.

I like the Boston idea though. Who is their back up PG right now? Eddie House?

* I forgot that they signed Marquis Daniels.. So there wouldn't be many minutes for AD in Boston either.

Remember Daniels can play some two as well. CHI lost Ben Gordon and he could possibly pick up a few of his minutes behind Rose/Kirk/Salmons. (Although Daniels vs either Pargo or L Hunter is close to a toss up.)

LA could use him at PG. Fisher is done. Farmar's confidence is shot, he's not viewed a significant piece to them anymore (at least to most hardcore fans.) BOS still could use a back up PG as Marquis is not a point. I'm not saying they are great ideas but I think LAL or BOS are the most conceivable.

edit - with Delonte West apparently going off the deep end, CLE becomes a viable candidate.

[Telfaire]

If the Spurs aren't too attached to Bonner and Finley, you could save almost a million in this type of swap, while filling an extra roster spot. Spurs get their veteran backup PG, then sign Joey Grahm as a backup SF:

Parker/Daniels
Mason/Manu
RJ/Grahm
Dice/Blair
Duncan/Ratliff