Mason Close to Deal with Kings

[wheresbrody]

I like this signing. We're obviously going to play small ball this season (unless some sort of trade goes down). And since he's only signed for a year I can see a contender wanting to trade for him for a last playoff push.

[KF10]

Mason was on Petrie's mind since mid/late 2005 when the Bucks offered Mason for K9. And Petrie refused the deal because K9 (believe it or not) was an integral part for that team at the time. Averaging roughly 15/9 a game. And Mason had one of his best years during that period. So, I can see why Petrie may signed Mason in this respect.

[rsavaj]

I dunno I actually think you guys would have been better off letting your young guys getting minutes.

TZ explains it much better: http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/9/18 ... son-really

[_SRV_]

Mason was on Petrie's mind since mid/late 2005 when the Bucks offered Mason for K9. And Petrie refused the deal because K9 (believe it or not) was an integral part for that team at the time. Averaging roughly 15/9 a game. And Mason had one of his best years during that period. So, I can see why Petrie may signed Mason in this respect.

IIRC it was the other way around, and Petrie was trying to sucker the Bucks into swapping KT for Mason.

[SacKingZZZ]

IIRC it was the other way around, and Petrie was trying to sucker the Bucks into swapping KT for Mason.

I don't really know who offered. I remember hearing that they had interest in Kenny Thomas for a long time and had been rebuffed by Petrie before. Believe it or not it was actually a pretty fair deal back then. Kenny was putting up around 14 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 3.5 apg and we were actually doing pretty decent.

[pillwenney]

I dunno I actually think you guys would have been better off letting your young guys getting minutes.

TZ explains it much better: http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/9/18 ... son-really

This is like other signings that I have been in favor of--he gives the young guys an obstacle. It's certainly not an insurmountable obstacle, but he's there. And if you can't earn minutes over Desmond Mason at this point, you don't deserve minutes in the NBA. It's that simple. If he is really as bad as this guy seems to think, he'll sit on the end of the bench and hopefully provide a veteran presence.

[KF10]

IIRC it was the other way around, and Petrie was trying to sucker the Bucks into swapping KT for Mason.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that. Thomas was pretty damn solid at that time (before he was riding the pine) Thomas was our best rebounder and best post defender.

[pillwenney]

IIRC it was the other way around, and Petrie was trying to sucker the Bucks into swapping KT for Mason.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that. Thomas was pretty damn solid at that time (before he was riding the pine) Thomas was our best rebounder and best post defender.

But still, at the time, most saw his contract as regrettable at best. Kenny was never much more than a MLE-level player.

[KF10]

But still, at the time, most saw his contract as regrettable at best. Kenny was never much more than a MLE-level player.

Maybe so. But Thomas played at the level of his contract for a period of time (half a season haha). Thomas was essentially the perfect role player. He didn't demand the ball under Adelman. He was a double-double threat at a nightly basis plus providing very solid post defense.

I do agree his contract was bad when he was in the doghouse under Mussleman, Theus/Natt.

[pillwenney]

But still, at the time, most saw his contract as regrettable at best. Kenny was never much more than a MLE-level player.

Maybe so. But Thomas played at the level of his contract for a period of time (half a season haha). Thomas was essentially the perfect role player. He didn't demand the ball under Adelman. He was a double-double threat at a nightly basis plus providing very solid post defense.

I do agree his contract was bad when he was in the doghouse under Mussleman, Theus/Natt.

No, he was never worth his contract. After Rick left he went from overpaid to unmovable.

[KF10]

No, he was never worth his contract. After Rick left he went from overpaid to unmovable.

Well, Thomas signed a 7-year contract with the Sixers at age 25/26. At the time, Kenny was very solid and productive. Most people believed that Thomas can elevate his game at a higher level i.e. 1st year in Sacramento (14/9) at a yearly basis. He did had that potential. But IMO the duration of his contract was terrible. No one gives 7-year contracts to role player. No matter how good the role player is. At most he would have gotten a 4-5 year deal at 7-8 million/year. Which totals roughly around $28 million to $40 million.

If the Kings never signed Shareef and Thomas wouldn't have gotten injured, I think Thomas would have been widely more accepted than he is today. But it isn't the case, is it?

The point is that most people tend to forget how integral and solid Thomas was in his first season here.

[SacKingZZZ]

Yeah, I think people forget how quickly Kenny became acclimated to Ricks system. He was playing like Webber "lite" for us. His jumper was probably even more consistent than C-Webbs at the time. Both he and Brian Skinner played really well for us after the trade, Corliss too.

[pillwenney]

I remember perfectly well how well Kenny played. I also still remember nobody really wanting his contract around for his production--even at his best.

[SacKingZZZ]

I remember perfectly well how well Kenny played. I also still remember nobody really wanting his contract around for his production--even at his best.

Houston was interested enough to offer a shorter deal in Stromile Swift. Geoff should have bit on that one, but I myself was in the "DON'T DO IT!" camp at the time. What a difference a few years makes.

[KF10]

I remember perfectly well how well Kenny played. I also still remember nobody really wanting his contract around for his production--even at his best.

I just remember that Petrie was offered for Thomas were Mason (I clearly remember that Petrie refused the deal at the time) and a few others.

[SacKingZZZ]

I just remember that Petrie was offered for Thomas were Mason (I clearly remember that Petrie refused the deal at the time) and a few others.

Hindsight's a b*tch!!! Hahahaha.

[KF10]

Hindsight's a b*tch!!! Hahahaha.

haha yeah.

The part I don't get that he seemed to completely lost his jumper from the key/elbow. I just don't know how to explain that haha.