which pg would you choose......(2nd round)

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which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#1 » by WigginsNation » Tue Oct 6, 2009 6:23 pm

If you guys had to pick only one of the following pgs for your fantasy team, who would you pick, and list in order:
Jason Kidd
Jose Calderon
Devin Harris
Gilbert Arenas
Steve Nash

Mind you Lebron would be my first selection. And im assuming Dwilliams, Billups and ofcourse Paul would be off the list
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Re: which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#2 » by Carlton Banksy » Tue Oct 6, 2009 8:51 pm

Steve Nash
Jose Calderon
Derrick Rose (all of whom I rank ahead of Billups)
Jason Kidd
Gilbert Arenas
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Post#3 » by rony zeira » Tue Oct 6, 2009 9:03 pm

I'd take Kidd, Nash and Arenas off the table, I'd don't like to gamble on old or injury prone players with high picks, gambling is for later round IMO. Between Harris and Calderon, Harris wins on points by miles and on REB and STL by just a little bit, Calderon takes AST, FG%, 3PM, FT% and TO, all by a decent margin, but not huge. If your league counts 3P% than Calderon takes that as well by miles and makes your choice even easier.

One thing to remember though, is that Calderon takes far fewer shots (Both from the field and from the line), so the edge he gives you in FG% and FT% is not a great as you might expect, especially on FT% where Harris shoots well and takes 3-4 times more shots. Overall, if you like to play it safe Calderon is your guy, if you like to gamble on upside than take Harris.

One thing I don't understand is why you insist on taking a PG in the second round, I'd go with BPA here. When you choose in the first few rounds, you still have flexibility with positions and don't need to fill out needs just yet. Besides, you can get Derrick Rose in the 3rd or 4th rounds and I think he will be just as good as those guys if not better.
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Re: which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#4 » by rpa » Tue Oct 6, 2009 10:58 pm

Kidd, Calderon, Nash, Harris, Arenas.

I like my top PG to get the standard PG stats (3s, assists, steals, ft%) and Kidd is really the only guy that does that well out of those 5. He may be old but shows no signs of slowing down plus we may see Dallas speed up their game a bit this year.

Nash & Calderon are very similar in my mind in that they'll both give you great FG% & FT%, a lot of assists, some 3pters. Neither will give you much as far as steals or rebounds (or blocks for that matter) but it really comes down to taking more points (Nash) or fewer turnovers (Calderon). I'd take the guy with fewer turnovers because I think it opens you up for more selections later on. For instance, last year I went with Bosh & Aldridge early on because they were low turnover and it allowed me to absorb Stephen Jackson w/o killing me in that cat.

Harris is 4th to me mostly because he subsidizes fewer assists and 3s w/ more points (and I'd take the former 10 times out of 10).

Arenas is a guy I'm actually considering taking in the 3rd or 4th round this year based purely on his upside. It's not like I hate the guy but his turnovers & horrible FG% hurt a lot. Also, he gets relatively few assists compared to the others and since assists are so densely dispersed it doesn't make sense (to me) to go after Arenas if given the choice between him and higher assist players.
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Re: which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#5 » by WigginsNation » Tue Oct 6, 2009 11:22 pm

rony zeira wrote:I'd take Kidd, Nash and Arenas off the table, I'd don't like to gamble on old or injury prone players with high picks, gambling is for later round IMO. Between Harris and Calderon, Harris wins on points by miles and on REB and STL by just a little bit, Calderon takes AST, FG%, 3PM, FT% and TO, all by a decent margin, but not huge. If your league counts 3P% than Calderon takes that as well by miles and makes your choice even easier.

One thing to remember though, is that Calderon takes far fewer shots (Both from the field and from the line), so the edge he gives you in FG% and FT% is not a great as you might expect, especially on FT% where Harris shoots well and takes 3-4 times more shots. Overall, if you like to play it safe Calderon is your guy, if you like to gamble on upside than take Harris.

One thing I don't understand is why you insist on taking a PG in the second round, I'd go with BPA here. When you choose in the first few rounds, you still have flexibility with positions and don't need to fill out needs just yet. Besides, you can get Derrick Rose in the 3rd or 4th rounds and I think he will be just as good as those guys if not better.



Why would you take Kidd off the table?? I understand Arenas, but Kidd isnt really injury prone. He's tough as nails, even now at his age.
Im wavering between JKidd, DHarris and Calderon!
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Post#6 » by DNYLkiller » Wed Oct 7, 2009 12:27 am

I'm never dissapointed when i take Kidd in the 2nd round. Nash Either.
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Post#7 » by rony zeira » Wed Oct 7, 2009 4:26 am

I'd take Kidd off the table, at least for the 2nd round pick, because he will be 37 by the end of the season, players have to drop sginificantly in production at some time or another, it's just how it works, and I don't want my 2nd round pick to be such a great risk. Also, Kidd scores very little on bad FG% and his rebounds are going down (And will go down even more with Marion in Dalas). I'm not saying he can't have a good season that will make him the best PG of the bunch, I'm just saying that I like to play it safe with my first few picks.
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Re: which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#8 » by rocketsballin » Wed Oct 7, 2009 8:28 am

nash
harris
jose
arenas
kidd
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Post#9 » by Pax for Prez » Fri Oct 9, 2009 4:02 am

Nash or Harris would be my picks.
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Post#10 » by retrospect24 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:21 pm

Nash
Kidd
Harris

Would be my top 3.
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Re: which pg would you choose......(2nd round) 

Post#11 » by Hilltop » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:09 pm

Can't pass up Nash's SSoL potential. I'll take him before anyone else. I would take Devin Harris next on upside alone. With Cater in Orlando, Lopez and Harris are both going to have big numbers next season.

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