GuyClinch wrote:The statistical databases point to him being a dominant defender. He has many supporters in this among the statistical community.
LMAO. No PG is a dominant defender. When KG was out the C's were an also ran with regards to defense. You can spin it anyway you want but Rondo wasn't "dominating" anyone - not D. Rose and not the Bulls.
Like I will grant you that Rondo is the best "PG sized" PG with regards to defense. But that's like saying Pedro was the best defending pitcher in baseball. Its not a spot where defense is really considered. SOMEONE has to be on the all-defense team for a PG. That doesn't mean that that person is a huge difference maker.
And BTW I am not even go to bother with your "Doc is ruining Rondo" nonsense. Doc is trying to work around a flawed player. Doc doesn't run the basketball through Rondo because that's not how you run an offense in today's NBA. The 1950's have passed. We have been through this before. You want guys who are a threat to SCORE and SHOOT handling the basketball.
Pete
You aren't going to bother with my nonsense. From my perspective you aren't "bothering" to think at all.
http://www.82games.com/0809/playoffs/0809CHI.HTM
Hmmm... and Rondo WASN"T dominating him? Those are the numbers of a guy who is getting his rear end handed to him. Did Rose have his moments? He sure did. For the series, as a whole, he got smashed. I find it interesting that people have spun his great Game 1 and nice block at the end of Game 6 into an equivalent performance. Rondo thoroughly jobbed the kid.
The Celtics were such an also ran defense without Garnett that they took the eventual Conference champs to 7 games. Did they do that by being some offensive power house? Please.
Regarding your "somebody has to be on the All-Defensive team as a point guard" comment, there are no "point guard spots" in the defensive win share rankings. That is dependent upon what you do in the number of minutes that you play. That Rondo, a point guard, finished as high as he did playing as few minutes as he did, is astonishing.... at least to the people who actually UNDERSTAND these stats. That he had a huge impact in the postseason came as no surprise to the people who are aware of these rankings.
Your lack of understanding is not all that unusual, unfortunately. Rajon not only plays great man defense, he also is a great team defender who forces a ton of turnovers and is very difficult to take advantage of on switches. In addition to that he is probably the best rebounding point guard in the game, now that Kidd is getting older. There are some really great defenders out there who only do one thing well. Bowen used to be great on his man. He is still really good. The thing with him is that is ALL that he was great at. He didn't force turnovers and he didn't hit the glass. Somebody else had to do that. That is NOT the case with Rondo. He keeps his man in check, helps his teammates out, forces turnovers and hauls in those boards. It really doesn't mean that much if you force a guy to miss a shot, and then let the other team get the rebound to take another shot. He is one of the most dynamic defenders at any position in the league, which is clearly expressed in his quality numbers.
That Rondo can be a better defender should NOT be confused with anyone being as good as him. Michael Jordan had plenty of room for improvement as a player when he first entered the league. That didn't mean that anyone else at his position was as good as him.
Doc doesn't run the basketball through Rondo because that isn't how an offense is run in today's NBA? I'm sure that fans of the Hornets, Jazz, Suns, Knicks, Mavs, and Spurs would disagree about that one, and those are just the ones which immediately come to mind. Seriously, do you even think for a second about the stuff that you post, or is it all stream of consciousness? I half expect you to write "Want to scratch belly," or "Lunch tasted good" down in your posts.
