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Re: Knicks Core vs. Nets Core 

Post#61 » by ezmoney707 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:34 am

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Who cares that he's 27. He's locked up for another 3 years at a very reasonable price. Lee and Nate are unrestricted free agents next summer..

Jesus i just said i didn't read his first line of the post i replied to. Go back to the nets board dawg.
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Re: Knicks Core vs. Nets Core 

Post#62 » by CrazyKnicks » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:36 am

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Why can't you include Harris? He's going to be there for a while.

See other post above about age, did not read his first line of his post just read the second part



Who cares that he's 27. He's locked up for another 3 years at a very reasonable price. Lee and Nate are unrestricted free agents next summer..

I don't think Lebron cares that much about age (he has an old Shaq on his team). The question is which team gives him a better chance to win a title. As long as the players aren't near retirement, age won't affect his decision. If you want to look at young core as an indicator for where Lebron is headed, then the Thunder look like a favorite.
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Re: Knicks Core vs. Nets Core 

Post#63 » by HEZI » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:41 am

If your Lebron you take the Knicks without any hesitation. Devin Harris is no PG, hes a scorer the same way Nate is, hes just taller. Harris cant shoot from the outside, and hes not a willing passer in the open court, if Im Lebron I would look more forward to Toney Douglas being my PG than Devin Harris, Douglas looks like hes going to be an All Defensive team type of player at some point in his career, and hes starting to showoff his offensive game so people need to really pay attention to this kid especially when talking about our core, out of all the young guys we currently have, hes looking to be the most promising one even if the others have more potential. Then you have to factor in the system we have in place and how much room a guy like Lebron would have to do his thing, I constantly see room in the paint thats open but the only thing we dont have is that strong swingman that can get to the rim at will, and even though Chandler has the physical structure, his ball handling simply isnt good enough. We just need a starting center to be a title contender with Lebron, but even without one we would be a huge problem in the East.
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Post#64 » by Subway Token » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:14 am

Douglas compliments everything about LeBron. His tenacity, ruthelessness, everything. LeBron would make him even better! With both of their court vision and passing skills, they really would make an insane 1-2 punch. Mo Williams who?
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Post#65 » by Jimmy76 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:53 am

you guys are way overating your prospects and underating the nets
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Post#66 » by richardhutnik » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:03 am

I would go with the Knicks. No matter what the Nets have, their future stadium in the pic posted in here looks like a handbag designed by Ugoff. No way LeBron wants to play in an arena that looks like a handbag designed by Ugoff.

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Post#67 » by GONYK » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:16 am

I'm so glad this thread was made, because I am tired of people jocking the Nets on this board. The Nets aren't better than us, and today, right now, the Knicks are a more attractive option in every single way. There is nothing the Nets have as an advantage over us right now.
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Post#68 » by Paeds » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:36 am

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HighRyzer83 wrote:Devin Harris turns 27 this February. About 2 years older than Lebron. Not exactly a youngin anymore.



lol, good point..Is player that is older than Bron eligible to be called "younger"?

An average bball player hits his prime around 27-29. So he only has about 3 years of prime activity. Not to mention he is a player that completely relies on speend and athleticism.


yeah he is very baby-faced but 27 yrs old means at least 5 yrs out of college foe a 4 yr senior who graduated at 21-22 yrs old

That said he will be in his prime so thats all that matters but he is the same age as ?Moe Williams
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Post#69 » by cgf » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:01 am

I really don't like Harris's game, what's the difference between him and nate other than height?, so I actually think our core will be better down the road, but things have to go right and our guys have to prove it.
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Post#70 » by turtlesnjoi » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:26 am

The only people who would pick the Knicks core over the Nets core are Knicks fans.

Deal with it.
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Post#71 » by VCRJKidd15 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:35 am

is this suppose to be a mega ton joke thread? because people who are saying harris is overrated have to be kidding themselves. You out this thread on the general board the only people who would say knicks core are the knick fans..
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Post#72 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:39 am

So I've read at least 4 times in this thread that Lebron would choose the Knicks because of Toney Douglas. I mean, cmon.
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Re: Knicks Core vs. Nets Core 

Post#73 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:44 am

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StutterStep wrote:If those guys played 10 times, our young core would smoke them 7 to 8 out of 10.


Indeed. Devin Harris is so overrated it makes me sick. I'm kind of amped to see how this team looks without Vince Carter because he was so underrated. VC was the leader and superior player imho all along. Brook to me is not better than Lee, I'm sorry. Even with Brook being far and away the better defensive player...Lee is the more effective, less mechanical player. Lopez is what he is.


When people say Harris is better than Nate, I stop listening. Seriously, remember how scrubby he was in Dallas when he wasn't allowed to shoot but asked to really run the point. Let Nate shoot and he gives you 17 OFF THE BENCH.



Harris improved every single year in Dallas - and has continued that improvement in NJ.
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Post#74 » by j4remi » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:11 pm

Only thing he improved was getting to the line aka flopping and whining.
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Post#75 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:27 pm

If you look at respective NBA accomplishments of the two cores right now you have to choose the Nets' core imo. But to do this you're basically comparing Nate and Lee to Lopez and Harris. The other guys' peaks are still pretty undetermined.

Two years from now, I'm not so sure. We have a player and a leader in Gallo, Hill is clearly a project, Douglas hasn't played an NBA game yet, and Chandler is only 21. I honestly think Gallo will be the best player in terms of contribution to a winning club of the bunch. Plus, I think Stutter is right. Our guys play better together and are better complimentary players (to LeBron). We've seen it several times this preseason already :)

The Nets are a bit further down the road in their rebuilding process (and had better assets to start with) but I'm not convinced that they even have the better core long term.


As far as free agency goes... I mean, for real... they started their rebuilding process with Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, and Richard Jefferson... 3 aging stars with value to good teams. Guys you can actually get young prospects in return for. We started ours with Zach, Curry, Marbury, Jeffries, Crawford, Q, Jerome... all these nutjobs with horrible contracts to deals with. So yeah, we're going to take a little longer and free agents are going to understand where we started from and what we're building here.
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Post#76 » by j4remi » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:35 pm

Capn'O wrote:If you look at respective NBA accomplishments of the two cores right now you have to choose the Nets' core imo. But to do this you're basically comparing Nate and Lee to Lopez and Harris. The other guys' peaks are still pretty undetermined.

Two years from now, I'm not so sure. We have a player and a leader in Gallo, Hill is clearly a project, Douglas hasn't played an NBA game yet, and Chandler is only 21. I honestly think Gallo will be the best player in terms of contribution to a winning club of the bunch. Plus, I think Stutter is right. Our guys play better together and are better complimentary players (to LeBron). We've seen it several times this preseason already :)

The Nets are a bit further down the road in their rebuilding process (and had better assets to start with) but I'm not convinced that they even have the better core.

I mean, for real... they started their rebuilding process with Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, and Richard Jefferson... 3 aging stars with value to good teams. Guys you can actually get young prospects in return for. We started ours with Zach, Curry, Marbury, Jeffries, Crawford, Q, Jerome... all these nutjobs with horrible contracts to deals with. So yeah, we're going to take a little longer and free agents are going to understand where we started from and what we're building here.


Exactly, I don't get how the Nets fans run in make one liners and have no defense for the fact that outside of Lee and Lopez, their youth doesn't compliment Bron.
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Post#77 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:37 pm

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Capn'O wrote:If you look at respective NBA accomplishments of the two cores right now you have to choose the Nets' core imo. But to do this you're basically comparing Nate and Lee to Lopez and Harris. The other guys' peaks are still pretty undetermined.

Two years from now, I'm not so sure. We have a player and a leader in Gallo, Hill is clearly a project, Douglas hasn't played an NBA game yet, and Chandler is only 21. I honestly think Gallo will be the best player in terms of contribution to a winning club of the bunch. Plus, I think Stutter is right. Our guys play better together and are better complimentary players (to LeBron). We've seen it several times this preseason already :)

The Nets are a bit further down the road in their rebuilding process (and had better assets to start with) but I'm not convinced that they even have the better core.

I mean, for real... they started their rebuilding process with Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, and Richard Jefferson... 3 aging stars with value to good teams. Guys you can actually get young prospects in return for. We started ours with Zach, Curry, Marbury, Jeffries, Crawford, Q, Jerome... all these nutjobs with horrible contracts to deals with. So yeah, we're going to take a little longer and free agents are going to understand where we started from and what we're building here.


Exactly, I don't get how the Nets fans run in make one liners and have no defense for the fact that outside of Lee and Lopez, their youth doesn't compliment Bron.


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Post#78 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:41 pm

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Post#79 » by Starksfor3 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:06 pm

Wow, that Nets stadium looks fancy. Where is it located? Fantasyland? Is Lebron one of those animated characters like Steve from Blue's Clues? Can he jump into drawings and start playing in that f*cking imaginary stadium. GTFO.
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Post#80 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:45 pm

j4remi wrote:Only thing he improved was getting to the line aka flopping and whining.



Check his TS%, his PER, and his AST%. You can dismiss him all you want, but the stats are there.
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