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What Is Our Lineup?

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Re: What Is Our Lineup? 

Post#221 » by nate33 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:58 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:^ hoops... foye is getting way too much PT for my liking. also the fact that james is on the court at all just lost you my support.


Thanks for the feedback.

Foye is getting too much PT in the above formula, but with the lineup I have, the difficulty is in plugging Miller in there for more minutes while still affording him a rest somewhere in betwixt them. It would be nice to see Miller at about 16 minutes per half, but the trouble is you wind up with him running all of those minutes straight.

As to James, the idea is that James is less of a drop off from Foye at PG than Stevenson is at SG. It's questionable as we need more evidence, but I am high on the prospect of Foye just being allowed to score and not reinvent himself as a facilitator.

Well, that's the reasoning anyway. It's a lot more complicated to work out these flow charts with multi-position swing guys than it is to just say '28 minutes for Foye'. I suppose that's why it's slightly screwy.

The trick of it is that no one player can be out there playing two positions at once. :-?

Looking at the preseason numbers, one can argue that James performed better than Young, Stevenson and McGuire, and he rivaled Randy Foye. James is also a pretty decent defender. You can make a case that he should be the full time backup PG, with Foye only getting minutes at SG.

Start Arenas and Foye. Have James and Miller on the second unit. (Miller would also get minutes as Butler's backup and maybe displace Foye in crunch time.) I'm thinking this:

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JAMISON HURT. FOYE STARTS
    |      1ST QUARTER       |      2ND QUARTER       |
TIME|2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 |2 1 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 |
PG  |GA----------------------|MJ----------GA----------|
SG  |RF----------------------|MM------RF------MM------|
SF  |CB----------MM----------|CB----------------------|
PF  |FO----------AB----------|AB------FO------AB------|
C   |BH----------------JM----|----FO--BH--------------|
MINS: GA-36 CB-36 FO-24 BH-34 AB-28 MM-28 RF-32 MJ-12 JM-10

* Foye plays at SG where he is most comfortable. Heck, he plays like a SG when he runs point anyhow.
* When Arenas is out, both Miller and Butler are in the game to facilitate ball movement.
* Oberto starts to help keep Blatche out of early foul trouble. Blatche plays against backups who won't have as many veteran tricks to draw fouls on him. Blatche can play in crunch time if he is on.
* McGee gets a few minutes of burn every game against backups to keep him motivated. In a few minutes, he can be a spark with his offensive board work and his willingness to sprint up court on the fast break. But in longer stints, teams will game plan against him and exploit his weaknesses.
* There's some flexibility down the stretch. If McGee plays well, Oberto doesn't need to come in for him early in the 2nd and 4th quarters. Likewise, if Foye and/or Oberto are playing well late in the half, Miller and/or Blatche do not need to come in for the last 4 minutes of the 2nd/4th. Even with these last-minute tweaks, nobody will play more than 12 consecutive minutes.
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Re: What Is Our Lineup? 

Post#222 » by Hoopalotta » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:12 am

Yeah, that looks better Nate, though I am intrigued about the possibility of starting 'Dray. I had him down for thirty minutes a night, but that was kind of a best case 'no foul trouble/bonehead-edness/fatigue issues tonight' kind of thing. You've still got him for 28 minutes though, so I guess it doesn't matter that much. I suppose my other concern is that to have Javale and 'Dray out there is channeling a bit too much 08/09 for my liking. Long-term, I like them playing together, but not so much as yet.

(Edit: actually your reasoning as far as not starting Blatche/foul trouble Vs. STarters makes a lot of sense)

As to the back-court, I guess if we're in on James for 8 minutes, we might as well be in on him for 12 and the whole backup Point slot. I believe that with a big front court, Foye starting at the two should be OK size-wise and he'll make up for his shortcomings with some real hot bursts. The key is if he knows to keep a cap on his shot attempts when he's not a burning Bunsen.

Anyway, I like that look a lot better than the possibility that we start Stevenson, Oberto and Haywood. That's the little engine that c'ain't.
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