Big Baby Bureaucracy

hairybyrd · Post #1 » by **hairybyrd** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:06 am

Maybe this topic doesn't deserve its own thread but I have a question that hasn't been discussed yet. If this is too redundant please merge it with another thread. Thanks. But anyway, I'm interested in everyone's opinion on this aspect of the Baby drama...

Regardless of Grousbeck's personal feelings, why did he suspend Big Baby for 2 measly games? OK, so he wants to prove a point and that's great, but Davis isn't playing for 6 - count 'em - SIX weeks. Unless this suspension goes into effect the night he was supposed to return to action, as in six weeks from now, I see no reason to suspend Davis for the CLE and CHA games. I hope I misunderstood something here...

Nevermind Big Baby's acting-out, I'm more critical of Grousbeck's reaction to the situation. Why did he have to lay down the red tape and punish Davis when Davis is already punishing himself? I know that as the owner of the team he wants to be assertive, however, I think Grousbeck should relax and let this thing play itself out because reactionary publicity is usually bad for ownership. He is simply adding insult to injury instead of teaching Davis a lesson and helping the team win games.

gpguy25 · Post #2 » by **gpguy25** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:34 am

He's no baby he's the Green Monster <--Around the Horn haha

hairybyrd · Post #3 » by **hairybyrd** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:52 am

gpguy25 wrote:He's no baby he's the Green Monster <--Around the Horn haha

Haha, yea true. I'm not saying he didn't have it coming...

Whatever the case may be, I want to see some more composure from Grousbeck.

Bad-Thoma · Post #4 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:35 am

This is not only a big "Huh?", it is also a big "this couldn't have gone in one of the other 5 BBD threads today?". Wic gave him a slap on the wrist. Show some composure? WTF does that even mean? You even admit he had it coming in your second post... yet Wic was doing something wrong by giving him this marginal suspension (I'd assume suspension without pay for 2 games he would have missed anyways). Basically he's docking him 2 games pay for putting himself in an inadvisable situation, which is nothing considering baby cost the team 6 weeks of his presence on the bench.

Post #5 » by **sully00** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:18 am

Baby isn't going to miss any games just money this is personal **** between Wyc and Baby. My guess is that Wyc went to the mat for his large Baby, that he wanted him signed and if it meant they couldn't sign Leon so be it. I think that there was somewhat of a divide in the organization probably with Doc and maybe Pagliuaca wanting to wait it out with Leon.

Banks2Pierce · Post #6 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 am

I don't know about a divide in ownership...you are kind of inventing that. This has something to do with the fact that Wyc is probably paying $6 mil (when you include lux tax) for this guy and he injured himself in a non-basketball incident.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #7 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:55 am

Whatever way you cut it, Baby was a moron in this case...

hairybyrd · Post #8 » by **hairybyrd** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:04 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:I don't know about a divide in ownership...you are kind of inventing that.

A divide in ownership? I said I didn't like the way Wyc handled the situation.

hairybyrd · Post #9 » by **hairybyrd** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:10 pm

(I'd assume suspension without pay for 2 games he would have missed anyways).

Bad-Thoma, in your own words, this is exactly my point. Why suspend a guy who already punished himself? He's not playing those 2 games regardless so why suspend him? Why not just fine him instead?

Bad-Thoma · Post #10 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:17 pm

hairybyrd wrote:(I'd assume suspension without pay for 2 games he would have missed anyways).

Bad-Thoma, in your own words, this is exactly my point. Why suspend a guy who already punished himself? He's not playing those 2 games regardless so why suspend him? Why not just fine him instead?

What difference does it make? I think the suspension is a slap on the wrist, a fine would have been the same.

hairybyrd · Post #11 » by **hairybyrd** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:19 pm

What difference does it make? I think the suspension is a slap on the wrist, a fine would have been the same.

Once again you've proven my initial point in your response. Essentially, a fine and a 2 game suspension is the same thing so why can't Grousbeck realize that a fine (like a 2 game suspension) is also "a slap on the wrist"? One difference though, a fine only hurts Big Baby while a suspension hurts Big Baby and his teammates. "Slap the wrist" of Big Baby, sure, but not the rest of the team.

It is my understanding the Celtics are trying to win as many games as possible this season...

...so let's maximize the opportunity to win games by not hashing out suspensions when a fine would easily suffice.

greenchaos · Post #12 » by **greenchaos** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:36 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Glen "Big Baby Davis" leaves Boston Celtics and the NBA and joins UFC as a heavyweight. Moments later, he was informed by Dana White he would replace Brock Lesnar versus Shane Carwin.

You read it here first.

MyInsatiableOne · Post #13 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:38 pm

greenchaos wrote:BREAKING NEWS: Glen "Big Baby Davis" leaves Boston Celtics and the NBA and joins UFC as a heavyweight. Moments later, he was informed by Dana White he would replace Brock Lesnar versus Shane Carwin.

You read it here first.

Post #14 » by **ParticleMan** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:39 pm

the suspension isn't going to hurt the team since he is injured anyways.

this really is a slap on the wrist. as it should be, if Glen was sober and defending his girlfriend. in fact the only reason for the suspension at all is probably that Wyc shot his mouth off that there would be one, so now the team feels the need to go thru with it.