Week 8: Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets

[Flaming Mo]

There is no going around it, the Jets got embarrassed tonight by the Dolphins!

We knew the run came yet we couldn't stop it. We got NO pressure on the QB even when we blitzed. We got blown off the ball all game long, if it wouldn't have been for some great plays by Jenkins it would have been even worse. Offense, well, it will be alright with time, Edwards is a stud. But the most discouraging thing is that the Jets couldn't match the Dolphins intensity, Ryan was outcoached by that pig Sparano and on top of that, our defense looked very very average.

Now we shouldn't overreact but here are my main issues right now with this team and with the game tonight:
- We don't have any elite pass rusher and can't get any pressure when we don't blitz. Pace looked rusty and has a career high of 7 sacks. And he's our best pass rusher.
- We have no depth along the DLine, without Jenkins we struggle big time. Ellis, Pace, Douglas and Pouha had atrocious games, atrocious.
- Rex Ryan had great momentum going with this team, high intensity and all. But I saw nothing of that tonight. The thing is with all this talk and hype, you can only hold your emotion high for so long. I hope Ryan hasn't fired off all his canons already.
- We had an enire offseason and a long week to stop the wildcat. Couldn't do it...

[TKF]

we let them get two big first down on throws henne pulled out of his rectum... One play coleman gambled and should have just played the receiver instead of trying to cut off the pass...

I think we had many chances to stop the wildcat tonight. We had hands, arms, wraps, and we just let them blow by us. The worst thing is knowing they CAN stop the wildcat, but didn't.

that means more gholston and more rest for jenkins early.

Has he even played the last few weeks? I haven't even heard anyone criticizing him for play.

we had chances on offense to go up more. we need to get better there as well.

Is it just me, or is Thomas Jones, even with his TDs, becoming more expendable? The o-line still hasn't picked it up though. I will say something I loved tonight...Edwards is an instant upgrade in spreading out that defense.

We are the better team, but we let this one get away...

Definitely agree. That just makes me more furious though.

yea, from the first series on we let guys slip through out hands. they were getting 5 and 6 yards on first down surges with guys wrapped around them.

gholston played tonight, and during pace's absence he was doing pretty well.

I love having Braylon Edwards, he gives this offense another dimension. Cotchery was playing with a pulled hamstring..

what bothered me is letting henne get those passes off, especially the bomb to ginn. I mean lets be real, a bum QB and a WR who never gets open beats you on a 50+ yard bomb.... the announcers were hyping up henne tonight and that bothers me. I saw him play twice this year.. the kid is not good..... we let this happen tonight..

I am furious at this loss.. really.. a game we should have won..

[Flaming Mo]

The Wildcat killed us.

trick gimmick offense. the thing about that is that now we have seen everything they have. I guarantee you in two weeks when we play those bums again, the results will be much different. We let this clown Henne get comfortable back there. the thing about the wildcat , playing teams in your division is that they see everything in one game... we are the better team, it is not even close. we will take this loss and roll from here....

BTW: that intentional grounding was not called as well. I mean he was getting sacked and threw the ball out of bounds. No one in sight....

I am pissed!!

What you say is true for the most but knowing the potential of our team, how good our defense can be and that Ryan as a defensive mastermind should have had a better plan tonight this is a very very tough loss.

Henne was outside of the tackle box if I'm not mistaken. Not getting any QB pressure without blitzing (and even our blitzes were bad tonight and countered by quick crossing routes and passes) is a very alarming sign if you ask. Bryan Thomas, Calvin Pace, Vernon Gholston?! That's a lot of money tied up in marginal pass rushers...

[TKF]

There is no going around it, the Jets got embarrassed tonight by the Dolphins!

We knew the run came yet we couldn't stop it. We got NO pressure on the QB even when we blitzed. We got blown off the ball all game long, if it wouldn't have been for some great plays by Jenkins it would have been even worse. Offense, well, it will be alright with time, Edwards is a stud. But the most discouraging thing is that the Jets couldn't match the Dolphins intensity, Ryan was outcoached by that pig Sparano and on top of that, our defense looked very very average.

Now we shouldn't overreact but here are my main issues right now with this team and with the game tonight:
- We don't have any elite pass rusher and can't get any pressure when we don't blitz. Pace looked rusty and has a career high of 7 sacks. And he's our best pass rusher.
- We have no depth along the DLine, without Jenkins we struggle big time. Ellis, Pace, Douglas and Pouha had atrocious games, atrocious.
- Rex Ryan had great momentum going with this team, high intensity and all. But I saw nothing of that tonight. The thing is with all this talk and hype, you can only hold your emotion high for so long. I hope Ryan hasn't fired off all his canons already.
- We had an enire offseason and a long week to stop the wildcat. Couldn't do it...

good points mo.. good points, I thought we played with emotion, but after that first drive, I felt our defense was deflated somewhat... even with that we had chances to make plays and tackles. we just seemed a step slow. I agree, we need pace to give us a pass rush somehow..

Rex Ryan had great momentum going with this team, high intensity and all. But I saw nothing of that tonight. The thing is with all this talk and hype, you can only hold your emotion high for so long. I hope Ryan hasn't fired off all his canons already.

good point, but I think thee guys believe in what is going on. They will go back, practice and get back at it next week vs the bills.

[TKF]

The Wildcat killed us.

trick gimmick offense. the thing about that is that now we have seen everything they have. I guarantee you in two weeks when we play those bums again, the results will be much different. We let this clown Henne get comfortable back there. the thing about the wildcat , playing teams in your division is that they see everything in one game... we are the better team, it is not even close. we will take this loss and roll from here....

BTW: that intentional grounding was not called as well. I mean he was getting sacked and threw the ball out of bounds. No one in sight....

I am pissed!!

What you say is true for the most but knowing the potential of our team, how good our defense can be and that Ryan as a defensive mastermind should have had a better plan tonight this is a very very tough loss.

Henne was outside of the tackle box if I'm not mistaken. Not getting any QB pressure without blitzing (and even our blitzes were bad tonight and countered by quick crossing routes and passes) is a very alarming sign if you ask. Bryan Thomas, Calvin Pace, Vernon Gholston?! That's a lot of money tied up in marginal pass rushers...

I think not having litto sheppard tonight hurt us with those short routes. Revis can only cover one guy. on those two last throws henne pulled outof his rear, they went to camarillo(another bum) and he was covered one time by coleman and the last pass on the rollout by lowry who gave too much space and allowed him to come back for that pass... Again, we missed so many opportunities to just shut this team down.. During the 3rd quarter we had the wild cat under control, giving up that bomb hurt us...

[Rich Rane]

I know it's INCREDIBLY EARLY, but do we draft line depth or do we go after a corner?

[TKF]

I know it's INCREDIBLY EARLY, but do we draft line depth or do we go after a corner?

we have revis and sheppard. I say go line with a beast pass rushing end, and then get corner help later..

[j4remi]

I know it's INCREDIBLY EARLY, but do we draft line depth or do we go after a corner?

we have revis and sheppard. I say go line with a beast pass rushing end, and then get corner help later..

Definitely DE indeed.

[Flaming Mo]

I know it's INCREDIBLY EARLY, but do we draft line depth or do we go after a corner?

we have revis and sheppard. I say go line with a beast pass rushing end, and then get corner help later..

It's an interesting situation with Lito's contract though. I think if we pick up his option and he plays on 85% of the defensive snaps then we would have to give Philly a second rounder. As he is hurt he won't make the 85% and I'm sure Tannenbaum will redo his deal. That leaves us in tremendous shape at the corner position with Revis, Sheppard, Lowery and Strickland who should be resigned.

We have to go defensive line or pass rusher early and often. It looks like we only have a first and second then nothing up to the sixth round. We'll see, it's a deep draft in terms of pass rushers (Kindle, Greg Hardy, Selvie, Graham just to name a few) and 3-4 DLine prospects.

[Flaming Mo]

I think not having litto sheppard tonight hurt us with those short routes. Revis can only cover one guy. on those two last throws henne pulled outof his rear, they went to camarillo(another bum) and he was covered one time by coleman and the last pass on the rollout by lowry who gave too much space and allowed him to come back for that pass... Again, we missed so many opportunities to just shut this team down.. During the 3rd quarter we had the wild cat under control, giving up that bomb hurt us...

Well, Lowery and Coleman are what they are, backups! You don't want them to cover on game deciding plays. Not only Lito was missing but also Strickland who was fantastic as our nickel in the first two games. That throw to Camarillo was a great call by the Dolphins, rolling the pocket to the right and completely neglecting our blitz up the middle. It was like the entire game, Miami seemed a play or a step ahead.

To be fair, we were lucky to even be in the game considering we executed on two fake punts and Miami shot themselves in the foot with many penalties. But then again, if we bring our A game Miami we should beat Miami easily.

Well, we'll get em next time...

[halfHAVOC]

Tough loss but I can live with it, unlike last week's when it was all about errors.

We need better run defense, and Thomas Jones SUX.

our defense was horrible , im so disappointed in it.

i have been saying since week 1 that our run defense would be exposed when we played against a team with a superior runningback and it happened last night.

.....hopefully thats the #1 thing on the agenda for rex ryan.

[TKF]

I think not having litto sheppard tonight hurt us with those short routes. Revis can only cover one guy. on those two last throws henne pulled outof his rear, they went to camarillo(another bum) and he was covered one time by coleman and the last pass on the rollout by lowry who gave too much space and allowed him to come back for that pass... Again, we missed so many opportunities to just shut this team down.. During the 3rd quarter we had the wild cat under control, giving up that bomb hurt us...

Well, Lowery and Coleman are what they are, backups! You don't want them to cover on game deciding plays. Not only Lito was missing but also Strickland who was fantastic as our nickel in the first two games. That throw to Camarillo was a great call by the Dolphins, rolling the pocket to the right and completely neglecting our blitz up the middle. It was like the entire game, Miami seemed a play or a step ahead.

To be fair, we were lucky to even be in the game considering we executed on two fake punts and Miami shot themselves in the foot with many penalties. But then again, if we bring our A game Miami we should beat Miami easily.

Well, we'll get em next time...

exactly. Plus miami has nothing else they can show us.. we have seen every play they had, they even blew their load showing us the pat white QB draw.. so now next time, we know, if he comes in, make him throw... We will have a healthy cotchery and sheppard next game, and a in shape calvin pace. I expect us to win the next game convincingly..

[zilby]

lets hope we ca get the W next week.

big 4th Q for both teams.

[Rich Rane]

Oh yeah...going green. Recycling Game Threads...

[TKF]

special teams gets burned, and shonn green just hurt us..

we are playing way too conservative..

[TKF]

two 100 yard returns sabotaged this team..... sanchez was hot in the second half, but why not just run the ball during that last series? TJ was running hard?

Just dumb!!!


4-4 to losses to miami.. youkidding me!!

[Bleedin' blue]

So lucky Im a yankee fan...

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

It was great watching the fins do this to you guys twice in a span of four weeks! Gotta give it up to the Dolphins for the heart that team plays with. Unlike the Jets.

[TKF]

So lucky Im a yankee fan...

same here.. Amen!!

[TKF]

It was great watching the fins do this to you guys twice in a span of four weeks! Gotta give it up to the Dolphins for the heart that team plays with. Unlike the Jets.

it would be great watching never come back...

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