Looking Ahead - Summer of 2010

[pillwenney]

Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately, I don't know if I could ever see Geoff drafting a defensive big. Some would say he values "skills", but defense is most certainly a skill, and having a real interior presence defensively is absolutely crucial to contending for a championship.

I still think a Hawes/Thompson combo has decent potential here, but we always have to remember that potential usually doesn't equate to reality, and neither are even decent in this sense right now.

[Smills91]

I think the PF/C positions are our biggest opportunity for growth. Other than Evans though nobody's safe. It's too early to say what kind of player Omri Caspi will become. It's not really a sure thing Donte Greene will pan out either. I think we go BPA again unless it's a PG.

Bull potonkytonk!

If you get #1 overall, you take John Wall. Simple. (Any other PG, I agree with you).

At that point, move Evans to the other wing next to Martin on the opposite wing.


Wall
Martin
Evans

with Thompson/Hawes frontcourt.

Play with that, until a vet. big man comes available via trade, now you have the ability to trade 1 for 1(guard for big with any one of those little guys on our roster - likely Martin).

[Smills91]

Agree with sackings916 and mitchweber. Our inability to defend inside is our biggest weakness. The fact that we can't defend inside hampers our ability to defend outside. If we had someone we could trust to defend the rim, we wouldn't have to collapse as much every time someone drives. I think our lack of interior defense is probably the primary reason we were and still are terrible at defending the 3pt line, if that makes any sense.

Obviously NCAA basketball hasn't started yet, but if there are any Thabeet type guys we should give it heavy consideration. Preemptively I am going to say NO I did NOT want Thabeet over Evans, because I know someone will try to put words in my mouth.

I am just saying, if we wind up in the 5-8 pick range, and there is a defensive big man available who is close to the BPA, then this might be the year to pick such a player.

Closely thing to it is: Soloman Alabi. And IMO, he's not worthy of a lotto pick.

[deNIEd]

To infinity and beyonnnnddddddd

*Objective - Rebuild Sacramento focusing on the core of Evans/Thompson/Hawes/Casspri. Creating a well balanced team strong on the offensive and defensive end.

Trade 1 w/NYK
Kings Trade: B. Udrih, S. May
Knicks Trade: E. Curry

Trade 2 w/Utah *Credit to RPA*

Kings in: Kirilenko, NYK 1st (from Utah), Protected 1st rounder from the Bobcats
Kings out: Martin, Kenny Thomas

Jazz in: Martin, Chandler, Thomas
Jazz out: Kirilenko, Boozer, NYK 1st

Bobcats in: Boozer
Bobcats out: Chandler, Protected 1st rounder (let's say top 10 protected for 3 years, top 5 for 2 more, unprotected thereafter)

Trade 3 w/Mil
Kings Trade: A. Nocioni, 2010 2nd
Mil Trades: L. Ridnour

Final Sacramento King's Line-Up after Deadline
PG: L. Ridnour/S. Rodriguez
SG: T. Evans/O. Casspri
SF: A. Kirilenko/F. Garcia
PF: J. Thompson/D. Greene/J. Brockman
C : S. Hawes/E. Curry

Sacramento King's 2010 Draft
NYK Pick (1-5), SAC Pick (3-8), CHA Pick (10-15)

Let's just say we get really lucky and draft something like
#1 - J. Wall
#8 - P. George
#14 - S. Alabi

Line up going into 2010-2011 Season
PG: J. Wall
SG: T. Evans, F. Garcia
SF: P. George, O. Casspri, A. Kirilenko
PF: J. Thompson, D. Greene
C : S. Hawes, S. Alabi, E. Curry

[Smills91]

No way the Bucks deal Luke's expiring for Nocioni. None.

Also, I'd like to cut Charlotte out of the Utah deal and just make it simple.

AK-47+Brewer+NY 1st for Martin+Nocioni

[RoyalCourtJestr]

I don't think New York or Utah would do their respective trades.

[wiltchamberlain]

I'm kind of pessimistic about next years off season. I tend to think that after signing rookies and maybe a couple of Desmond Mason esque players to fill up the roster the team isn't going to attempt much in free agency. I think the financial situation is so bad I don't really see them going after a really good or potentially expensive player. I'm not sure they'll even go after a solid mid level exception player.

As far as the draft goes I do have confidence that Petrie (assuming he still is the GM next season) will get someone good, as he always has. Like everyone else I'm skeptical he'll go after a defensive big, maybe that's a good thing though because like Smills says it doesn't seem like there will be much in that way of a player available anyway. I would also like to voice my caution on the subject of John Wall. I can't help but notice (and I'm not the only one, I'm sure many of you have too) how similar the hype around him is to a guy like Telfair. I know they aren't the same guy, and I'm sure several of you can tell me why he's so different, I'm just saying I want to see him play a few college games before I go crazy for him.

[cdt3]

The defense has already been lights out so far. Jason Thompson has had big late blocks in most of the wins and Hawes had one late in Utah and 4 vs OKC. They are playing tough in the paint right now as good as the good old days Kings. Chris Webber avgd a 1.4 blocks in his career and Vlade 1.3, right now Thompson has 1.3 and Hawes 1.4. They have excactly the same stats as the great Kings teams! Thompson has avg 19/12 in his last 4 games (3 of the 4 were wins). When this team gets Thomspon and Hawes touches it allows the shooters to get easy baskets and they win.

Well rounded SF? Have you ever seen Casspi play he has been dunking late in the clutch on breakaways, can shoot the 3 and can defend Guards or Bigs. Greene is getting the message on attacking the basket finally and is getting bigger and stronger. Casspi and Greene both have Hedo level tops.

There are no free agents coming because they are not better than the great young core of Thompson/Hawes/Greene/Casspi/Evans/Martin/Garcia/Noci. The Kings have been intimidating teams in the paint right now and that hasn't happened since Webber days. They are very balanced right now.

[sl1mshad33]

Here are my thoughts concerning 2010:

-1) Stay away from Knicks players!!! David Lee puts up good numbers and to his credit, is a tenacious and consistent player. However, he isn't particularly known for playing defense and you have to also consider that his numbers might be slightly inflated as a result of playing in D'Antoni's high-scoring offense and also due to the fact that he has been the only half-decent big man that the Knicks have had in recent years (i.e., he hasn't had much competition for rebounds from his teammates). Eddy Curry is just an overpaid, overweight piece of trash. He has no passion for the game, is rarely ever in shape, doesn't play defense, doesn't pass the ball etc. I think every Knicks fan would gladly PAY the Kings to take him away from their team.

-2) I think that the Kings shouldn't go for a Joe Johnson-type of player. They have enough guys who can put points on the board. You don't want a guy who will have to get his 20 points per night in order to be happy, even if this comes at the expense of the team.

-3) Let's be realistic. Most free agents don't want to come to Sacramento, unless Sacramento would agree to overpay them with some huge contract. I think the Kings should continue to try to add value players--- guys who can play defense, move the ball and score when needed, but who don't have to have the ball in their hands all the time in order to be effective.

-4) As has been stated, I think the Kings are pretty solid at the 2 & 3 positions. I think the focus should be on trying to bring in another PG who can ideally play as a combo guard as well as another big man who hangs out by the basket and collects rebounds, scores garbage baskets and makes an honest effort on defense.

[ICMTM]

To point # 3 if Sacramento is contending people will come! That's already been proven.

The Kings are in a tough spot. The youngs are looking GREAT but are these guys going to be our future? If so there's nothing we need to do in 2010. If not then we will need to upgrade our team at certain positions. In that case there's only one untouchable and that's Tyreke Evans. JT would be the 2nd IMO, but really it's just Reke for me.

If we're close to making the playoffs at the end of the year you have to consider keeping this squad together long term.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Just in case people were still thinking about it. NO TO RUDY GAY. That guy is a loser and a future chemistry killer. He's an overrated chucker, plays no defense. Keep him away from this team.

Also If Thompson continues to improve, screw a PF in the draft. I'm pretty much in agreement with all who say we need a defensive big. Don't know if there is one though.

[SacKingZZZ]

Defensive bigs? You go for the talent if your us, but there are some really good bigs, depends on where we draft of course! Right now we're in the 8th seed!!!

Demarcus Cousins will be the diamond as far as the big men go IMO.

[LeBron's Time]

draft derrick favors, then trade either hawes or thompson for another 1st round pick to draft cousins.

evans + favors + cousins = kings future

then on 2011, draft BRANDON KNIGHT as pg and move evans to sg

[Nicky Nix Nook]

draft derrick favors, then trade either hawes or thompson for another 1st round pick to draft cousins.

evans + favors + cousins = kings future

then on 2011, draft BRANDON KNIGHT as pg and move evans to sg

This is our future:

Evans/Thompson/Hawes/Casspi + lotto pick this year.

[darkadun]

This is our future:

Evans/Thompson/Hawes/Casspi + lotto pick this year.

Agreed on this. Fo sho.

Plus, we have KMart, who I think will either fit in well with our core for a few years, or serve as a good trading piece for someone else. Either way, KMart will make us a better team.

[deNIEd]

draft derrick favors, then trade either hawes or thompson for another 1st round pick to draft cousins.

evans + favors + cousins = kings future

then on 2011, draft BRANDON KNIGHT as pg and move evans to sg

This is our future:

Evans/Thompson/Hawes/Casspi + lotto pick this year.

It's a good future, but I still don't think it's enough (not including lotto pick). Evans/Thompson/Hawes/Casspri/(Martin's trade value) will be very competitive in the league...but I just don't know if it will have enough talent to go against the future super powers (similar to Uta/Pho never having quite enough talent to go all the way).

I think this year's draft and next year's draft will determine our overall future. Both picks should be lotto picks (something like 5 and 13 IMO), and if we can draft two more quality players, then our future is set. If we don't....well...it'll make everything a whole lot harder.

[SacKingZZZ]

draft derrick favors, then trade either hawes or thompson for another 1st round pick to draft cousins.

evans + favors + cousins = kings future

then on 2011, draft BRANDON KNIGHT as pg and move evans to sg

Damn, don't even get my hopes up like that! Trade Thompson for Cousins:

PG: Evans
SG: Martin
SF: Favors
PF: Cousins
C: Hawes

Holy SH*T!!! That team would be fun to watch. Both bigs can shoot/pass/block shots, Favors can dominate physically at the 3 and, well.... screw it anyway....never happen in a million years!

[deNIEd]

Damn, don't even get my hopes up like that! Trade Thompson for Cousins:

PG: Evans
SG: Martin
SF: Favors
PF: Cousins
C: Hawes

Holy SH*T!!! That team would be fun to watch. Both bigs can shoot/pass/block shots, Favors can dominate physically at the 3 and, well.... screw it anyway....never happen in a million years!

Just to make you cream your pants a little more.

Simply trade KMart for Brewer + NYK 1st
Sign Joe Johnson

PG: T. Evans/B. Udrih
SG: J. Johnson/R. Brewer
SF: D. Favors/O. Casspri
PF: D. Cousins/D. Greene
C : S. Hawes/J. Thompson

[bigboi1play]

I know half of the fans want to trade Kevin Martin so Reke da Freak, can take over the 2, I don't see trading Martin, but if we do trade, Martin, what if they can turn him into FA signed J. Johnson and Re-signed C. Bosh:

I'm still tryin to figure out the trade to do it, but would involve Martin, Thomas, Hawes (hopefully we can keep) and 2011 pick and some more pieces goin to Toronto, but the line up could look like this:

2010 Line Up

PG: T. Evans/ B. Udrith
SG: J. Johnson/ O. Casspri
SF: D. Favors/ O. Casspri/ D. Greene
PF: J. Thompson/ D. Greene
C: C. Bosh/ S. Hawes (if we can keep)/ J. Brockman

Only way I'm doin this is if Bosh would re-sign, but other than that no way, I'll just let Petrie keep build this team up.

Would you guys take accept this?

[RoyalCourtJestr]

As fun as Favors/Cousins could be, I don't think Favors could play SF, and I'd rather just have Favors/Thompson/Hawes with a respectable SF.