Wolves "show casing" Brewer?

Wolves2011 · Post #1 » by **Wolves2011** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:19 pm

Article below leads me to believe that the Wolves "could" be show casing Brewer. Kahn said late in the summer that Gomes and Brewer had something to prove. If Brewer doesn't show he can shoot, he'll likely be traded. So far he is shooting 36%, no real improvement on the past. He has also shown high energy and great defense. That has market value on a team with lots of shooting [unlike the wolves.] If Brewers shooting doesn't improve we could see a trading deadline deal to open more cap space next summer.

Gomes has a partially guaranteed deal that vests June 30th of next season. Look for a move to trade him before that date unless he can be more consistent. Gomes is a very good backup player, a bench player but his contract is "rich" for a bench player if the NBA salary cap is $50 million.

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Nov 03, 2009 7:59 AM EST
Timberwolves president David Kahn believes he'll be able to move players if the situation arises this season.

Minnesota picked up the options on the contracts of Kevin Love and Corey Brewer on Monday.

"I don't want this to be some sort of signal that we will trade Corey, because I don't believe that, but I do believe this is a trader's league right now," Kahn told the Pioneer Press. "And I believe as we demonstrated this summer, you can move players if need be. So I don't look at this decision today on Nov. 3 as saying, 'This is the cap number we'll have next summer.'

"I believe there are all kinds of possibilities that can occur with this team, particularly when you frame it from the standpoint that Kurt and I are still ... have a lot of evaluation and learning to do about this team."

john2jer · Post #2 » by **john2jer** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:48 pm

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Brewer is quickly becoming my favorite Wolf this year. 9. Hopefully he doesn't get traded and continues to improve throughout the year. 9

wildvikeswolves · Post #3 » by **wildvikeswolves** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:56 pm

i doubt it. Coreys probably been our best player so far despite his low shooting percentage. he just continues to improve, i definitly think hes part of our future plans

Devilzsidewalk · Post #4 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:17 pm

I see the missed J's, but the things he's doing defensively and on the offensive glass are very rare. He's grabbing rebounds from big men, he's blocking jump shots, you can trade that if you want but just know that you're not going to get it back from another player you bring in.

This is the Corey Brewer we've been waiting to see, and for all his warts shooting the ball, he's a confidence player and he can go on a hot streak.

He's so active defending multiple positions and always getting his hands on the ball, if he's limited offensively then you bring in somebody to take the pressure off him. The problem isn't Brewer's shooting so much as nobody else can do it either, Brewer is showing he can have a big impact in other areas.

Gomes and Sasha are the problem when it comes to the Wolves' shooting, because thats what they're here for.

john2jer · Post #5 » by **john2jer** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 6:54 pm

Sasha needs to be removed from the NBA, ASAP.

El_Lobo_3 · Post #6 » by **El_Lobo_3** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:31 pm

john2jer wrote:Brewer is quickly becoming my favorite Wolf this year. Hopefully he doesn't get traded and continues to improve throughout the year.

AGREED.

Post #7 » by **revprodeji** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:31 pm

If they wanted to move brewer in a trade then his option would not have been picked up. That way a team could trade for him as a try-out without committing the precious 2010 cap number. Giving him the extension and then moving him makes no sense.

I do have a feeling Gomes is gone. His role is easily replaced (shoot jumpers, run floor) and not worth the cap number he will have next year. But I believe Brewer could be longterm here.

But I am Bias, I <3 brewer.

Steve_Holiday · Post #8 » by **Steve_Holiday** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:48 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:He's so active defending multiple positions and always getting his hands on the ball, if he's limited offensively then you bring in somebody to take the pressure off him. The problem isn't Brewer's shooting so much as nobody else can do it either, Brewer is showing he can have a big impact in other areas.

I agree with your entire assessment. I think Love's return will help some Brewer issues in two ways:

1. Knock his scoring responsibilities down the totem pole so he can focus on what he does best.
2. Wait for Brewer to shoot and immediately put-back the 2/3 of his shots that will no-doubt clang off the rim...that is, if they draw iron at all.

Wolves2011 · Post #9 » by **Wolves2011** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 7:50 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I see the missed J's, but the things he's doing defensively and on the offensive glass are very rare. He's grabbing rebounds from big men, he's blocking jump shots, you can trade that if you want but just know that you're not going to get it back from another player you bring in.

This is the Corey Brewer we've been waiting to see, and for all his warts shooting the ball, he's a confidence player and he can go on a hot streak.

He's so active defending multiple positions and always getting his hands on the ball, if he's limited offensively then you bring in somebody to take the pressure off him. The problem isn't Brewer's shooting so much as nobody else can do it either, Brewer is showing he can have a big impact in other areas.

Gomes and Sasha are the problem when it comes to the Wolves' shooting, because thats what they're here for.

I partially agree [and as I said at the beginning], that Brewer could be a better fit for a team a bunch of shooters. If the Wolves had better shooters, that could be us. But he still needs to improve his shooting.

2007-8 37.5%
2008-9 41.1%
2009-10 36.1%

He needs to be at least 40% and above even with his great defense to stay on the floor. He also should be much more selective in his shot attempts. Against the Clippes he was playing like he's the #1 option. I'm guessing he isn't.

So either I have a problem with Rambis if Brewer is our #1 offensive option or with Brewer if he is taking more shots than he should be.

I love Brewer's energy and defense. But many of those drives to the hoop where he gets the ball on the rim NEED TO BE MADE! He should be limiting his jumpers, primarily to spot up shots, until he learns how to square up properly and follow through properly on his shots.

I love that he tries to improve and isn't afraid to make mistakes. Shooting like anything else takes practice and can be improved. But by taking so many jump shots on the move he hurts his mechanics, when is still getting his body to master them.

LApwnd · Post #10 » by **LApwnd** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:12 pm

john2jer wrote:Sasha needs to be removed from the NBA, ASAP.

would you like our Sasha "the machine"? lol but yea I was gona come to this side to see if Brewer was available but we Lakers only have Ammo as piece as expiring but you guys already under the cap so I'm sure if Brewer is on the blocks you guys are probably looking for a 1st pick or something like that?

john2jer · Post #11 » by **john2jer** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:19 pm

LApwnd wrote:
john2jer wrote:Sasha needs to be removed from the NBA, ASAP.

would you like our Sasha "the machine"? lol but yea I was gona come to this side to see if Brewer was available but we Lakers only have Ammo as piece as expiring but you guys already under the cap so I'm sure if Brewer is on the blocks you guys are probably looking for a 1st pick or something like that?

You can keep the machine. :-)

Not sure how good of a 1st Brewer would be worth, but my hope is we're not looking to move him. His defense, hustle, and energy is exactly what a young, building team needs.

I think it's absolutely pathetic that people are getting worked up about anyone's shooting numbers after 4 games, especially after having missed almost an entire season. If he was shooting 55% would you be massaging his jock for him? I'm not going to say he's a better shooter, or that he doesn't need to work on it, but seriously, 4 games. We're not even at full health yet.

Steve_Holiday · Post #12 » by **Steve_Holiday** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:42 pm

john2jer wrote:I think it's absolutely pathetic that people are getting worked up about anyone's shooting numbers after 4 games, especially after having missed almost an entire season. If he was shooting 55% would you be massaging his jock for him?

It's a small sample size, but it is consistent with his career numbers. The number of shots taken completely magnifies how horrible his shot is (and always has been). If he was shooting 55%, he would have had nearly 30 points last night...which would absolutely be noteworthy.

All that said, I don't think he should be traded. Cheap, young players with potential are what the Wolves are building around. We just need some other pieces to hide Corey's flaws.

Wolves2011 · Post #13 » by **Wolves2011** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:49 pm

john2jer wrote:
LApwnd wrote:
john2jer wrote:Sasha needs to be removed from the NBA, ASAP.

would you like our Sasha "the machine"? lol but yea I was gona come to this side to see if Brewer was available but we Lakers only have Ammo as piece as expiring but you guys already under the cap so I'm sure if Brewer is on the blocks you guys are probably looking for a 1st pick or something like that?

You can keep the machine.

Not sure how good of a 1st Brewer would be worth, but my hope is we're not looking to move him. His defense, hustle, and energy is exactly what a young, building team needs.

I think it's absolutely pathetic that people are getting worked up about anyone's shooting numbers after 4 games, especially after having missed almost an entire season. If he was shooting 55% would you be massaging his jock for him? I'm not going to say he's a better shooter, or that he doesn't need to work on it, but seriously, 4 games. We're not even at full health yet.

brought it up because of what Kahn said this summer in the the article TODAY.

Brewers shooting has been a problem for 2 plus seasons, not for 4 games. I hope he shoots like he did in the last few games in pre-season. I just thought Kahn comment was very pointed, about Brewers roster spot, long term not being "locked in".

Krapinsky · Post #14 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 8:58 pm

I don't think we're showcasing him. I think we just don't have any talent on the wings and the triangle showcases wing players because they get the ball so much at the top of the key.

dunkonu21 · Post #15 » by **dunkonu21** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:08 pm

If Kahn really meant what he said about Rubio and Flynn being one of the best defensive back-courts in the league, then I think Brewer is pretty much ideal for this team. I think between Rubio, Flynn and Brewer all shooting wide open shots we could manage fine, because these players have too much passion and desire to lose on their weakness in a basic skill. They all will figure out how to be average to slightly above average shooters.

B Calrissian · Post #16 » by **B Calrissian** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:38 pm

john2jer wrote:9

Brewer is quickly becoming my favorite Wolf this year. 9. Hopefully he doesn't get traded and continues to improve throughout the year. 9

900D to hear.
He became my favorite Wolf right after he was drafted. I am a sucker for defense.

Foye · Post #17 » by **Foye** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:44 pm

I like how he plays lately.

He is the only wolves player who plays consistent D right now.

IF he ever develops a solid jumper he'll be huge.

shrink · Post #18 » by **shrink** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 9:54 pm

Kahn wrote: I don't want this to be some sort of signal that we will trade Corey, because I don't believe that, ...

Wolves2011 wrote:Article below leads me to believe that the Wolves "could" be show casing Brewer.

What I got from the article is that Kahn is saying that anyone could be traded. I would think Brewer is one of the least likely, because his trade value is still low, and because his length, athleticism, defense, and upside are the qualities that Kahn is looking to add to the team.

I think the most likely player to be traded is Ryan Gomes, and I don't think anyone is on Kahn's untradable list.

GopherIt! · Post #19 » by **GopherIt!** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:09 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I don't think we're showcasing him. I think we just don't have any talent on the wings and the triangle showcases wing players because they get the ball so much at the top of the key.

that's why I don't understand Rambis need to install the triangle right now. Love seems like the only player who obviously fits that type of system. We got a legit big man for half court sets and a couple of PG's that like to run.

9 I'm also starting to think Chase Budinger would have been a nice fit for this team. 9 Don't know if Kahn would have picked him but, damn u Rockets! 9 :evil:

Wolves2011 · Post #20 » by **Wolves2011** » Tue Nov 3, 2009 11:21 pm

Foye wrote:I like how he plays lately.

He is the only wolves player who plays consistent D right now.

IF he ever develops a solid jumper he'll be huge.

I agree if Brewer got a jumper he'd be huge.
[Note: There are others who play D, like Sessions, Wilkins, Hollins, Cardinal though brewer is the most talented on D.]

But if Kahn has an opportunity to get a great free agent this summer, and he doesn't have enough cap space to get said free agent, will Kahn move Brewer?

He might if Brewer's jumper doesn't improve this year. Kahn said this summer and repeated in the fall, that Gomes and Brewer were "on notice" and needed to prove things to be part of the wolves long term plans. For Brewer its shooting a "decent" percentage.

And Kahn's quote mentioned in the article at the beginning of this string, reinforces what he said this summer.