What's Sloan gotta do...

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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#41 » by JDubJazz » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:44 pm

drivewayball wrote:The change has to be moving Boozer to center, Millsap in at pf, and Kirilenko, Brewer and Williams. Boozer can guard and block out centers ... in fact they are about the only guys he can guard. Guarding centers also keeps him in the paint area, not running out to the three point line. The change from Okur to Millsap in the starting lineup gives the Jazz a little more speed and little more rebounding.
...and ZERO shooting. We'd score 68 points a game with that lineup.
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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#42 » by red4hf » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:01 pm

JDubJazz wrote:
drivewayball wrote:The change has to be moving Boozer to center, Millsap in at pf, and Kirilenko, Brewer and Williams. Boozer can guard and block out centers ... in fact they are about the only guys he can guard. Guarding centers also keeps him in the paint area, not running out to the three point line. The change from Okur to Millsap in the starting lineup gives the Jazz a little more speed and little more rebounding.
...and ZERO shooting. We'd score 68 points a game with that lineup.


Not to mention we wouldn't be able to stop anybody, Boozer is too short to stop Centers and Millsap is too short to stop Power Forwards....... And despite popular thinking Brewer is not a good defender, he gambles for steals way too often allowing easy penetration.......

How about giving more time to our big, shot-blocking 7-footers? And less time to our 6-5 "power forward", that might be part of the solution......
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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#43 » by outerspacefella » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:19 pm

Season's looking bad, buy I'd wait a couple more weeks before thinking on anythong huge. In the meantime, with the personnel the Jazz have available right now, I'd start Williams, Matthews, Kirilenko, Boozer and Fesenko, with Brewer, Millsap, Koufos, Okur in the second. We need a backup PG... so throw Manor out there and see if the guy's though enough to make his rookie mistakes and learn the hard way.
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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#44 » by GP » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:27 pm

Soul Patch wrote:Sloan has given us a great foundation to build on. Whomever comes in to replace him really won't have to do much to be a winning coach just because of the system he runs. What other coach can you say that about? Phil Jackson and his triangle offense and Popovich. Sloan is a great coach before and after games but right now we need him to be more vocal and demanding during games because we don't have a player, like Duncan, that is an extension of the coach on the floor. Any championship contender needs that kind of player on the floor.


Just because you have a system, doesn't mean its effective and since you mentioned pop and phil. Lets compare the effectiveness of each system.

Phil Jackson's system produced 10 championships
Popovich's system (which he emulated and improved from sloan) produced 4 championships
Sloan's system has produced 0 championships

I guess 20 yrs hasn't been enough time to implement sloans system. I do agree sloan has a good start, but his system needs large improvements and needs to be adapted to the current age.
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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#45 » by Soul Patch » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:01 pm

And we need a new coach to make and implement those changes and upgrades. I have no problem with that. People just exaggerate how bad Sloan is.
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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#46 » by red4hf » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:33 pm

Soul Patch wrote:People just exaggerate how good Sloan is.


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Re: What's Sloan gotta do... 

Post#47 » by GP » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:15 am

Soul Patch wrote:And we need a new coach to make and implement those changes and upgrades. I have no problem with that. People just exaggerate how bad Sloan is.


My feelings are that sloan WAS a great coach, however, just like anyone who works in a evolving field, sometimes it passes you by. Either way, we can both agree changes are needed.

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