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Talking about "rebuilding team" .. Has Kahn a plan?

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Talking about "rebuilding team" .. Has Kahn a plan?

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Talking about "rebuilding team" .. Has Kahn a plan? 

Post#1 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:11 pm

It's my first thread. Sorry for the errors
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Post#2 » by Wolves2011 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:38 pm

I like Kahn and like his moves, but I don't know if his coach is on the same page.

No, Flynn and Sessions playing together. What's Rubio bound to think? Kahn said the two PG would play together.
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Post#3 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:10 pm

Well, and if a lot people of this forum think that Kahn has an plan, I have a question for them ...

What's the key position in his project? 5 like Orlando? 4 like Boston? 3 like Cleveland? 2 like Miami or LA? 1 like Phoenix?

I supose this is a easy question for this people if they can see the Kahn's plan, because I still haven't fuching idea about what is it. :curse:
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Post#4 » by Worm Guts » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:14 pm

That's an odd question. By that definition, the key position is whatever your best player plays. And that's not something you get to plan for.
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Post#5 » by Worm Guts » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:21 pm

The plan is obviously to build through draft and add to it via free agency. Right now we're focused and adding talent, later hopefully we can mold that talent into a team that fits.
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Post#6 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:27 pm

Worm Guts wrote:That's an odd question. By that definition, the key position is whatever your best player plays. And that's not something you get to plan for.


OK, now I understand ... the plan is "get a good player", and after this the Kahn's staff will talk about WTF they wants.

This plan fits in a smoke paper, wow, Kahn must be the Basket's Napoleon ... :thumbsup:
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Post#7 » by Worm Guts » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:34 pm

I can just see it, Lebron calls David Kahn this summer and says "Mr. Kahn, I've decided I'd like to sign with the Wolves" and Kahn replies "Sorry Lebron, we're looking to building around 2 and you're more of a 3."
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Post#8 » by funkatron101 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:38 pm

lobishome wrote:This plan fits in a smoke paper, wow, Kahn must be the Basket's Napoleon ... :thumbsup:

This broke my translator.
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Post#9 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:43 pm

lobishome wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:That's an odd question. By that definition, the key position is whatever your best player plays. And that's not something you get to plan for.


OK, now I understand ... the plan is "get a good player", and after this the Kahn's staff will talk about WTF they wants.

This plan fits in a smoke paper, wow, Kahn must be the Basket's Napoleon ... :thumbsup:


WG makes a valid point, Orlando and Cleveland didn't make a concerted effort to build around a center or SF respectively, they had the #1 pick and took the best player available. They had no strategy except that - get the best player possible. Once those guys developed, then they had the luxury of looking to get shooters around D12 and playmakers and defenders around Lebron etc.

Wolves have yet to have somebody develop to that level, their main strategy should be to use trades/draft/free agency to get somebody like that, but it's easier said than done and takes a lot of patience.
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Post#10 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:20 pm

Then I can't understand the poll's result. Kahn don't need any plan until he get a top player for minnie. Then he knows what kind of player need minnie for build a team around the top player.
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Post#11 » by Wolves2011 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:23 pm

As somebody said earlier, at this points Kahns plan is to accumulate assets -

1) young talent

2) draft picks

3) cap space

4) a "desirable" coaching staff - somebody free agents or players traded want to play for - Rambis and his assistants fit that goal, unless the focus on the triangle ruins it.

Turn those assets into a complete team - mostly in the next year or so.
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Post#12 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:24 pm

BTW, I don't understand the threads called "trade idea", because minnie don't know what kind of player they need until they get his top player.
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Post#13 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:28 pm

And what sense has to sign a coach like Rambis if minnie gets a kind of player like Wade or Paul?
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Post#14 » by Wolves2011 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:35 pm

lobishome wrote:And what sense has to sign a coach like Rambis if minnie gets a kind of player like Wade or Paul?


If Rambis is devoted to the triangle, I agree....

and the same applies to Jefferson, Flynn, and Rubio
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Post#15 » by lobishome » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:42 pm

Wolves2011 wrote:
lobishome wrote:And what sense has to sign a coach like Rambis if minnie gets a kind of player like Wade or Paul?


If Rambis is devoted to the triangle, I agree....

and the same applies to Jefferson, Flynn, and Rubio


Then I agree too. The correct answers to the poll are 2 and 3. Kahn don't need any plan until he knows the name of the top player. He only must work with abstract concepts like space cap, draft selections, possibilities of trade his players, etc ...

I can understand now. Thanks.
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Post#16 » by Wolves2011 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:50 pm

lobishome wrote:
Wolves2011 wrote:
lobishome wrote:And what sense has to sign a coach like Rambis if minnie gets a kind of player like Wade or Paul?


If Rambis is devoted to the triangle, I agree....

and the same applies to Jefferson, Flynn, and Rubio


Then I agree too. The correct answers to the poll are 2 and 3. Kahn don't need any plan until he knows the name of the top player. He only must work with abstract concepts like space cap, draft selections, possibilities of trade his players, etc ...

I can understand now. Thanks.


No, you are over emphasizing, the lack of a plan. There is a plan. Like there is a plan in a war. But as they say, "the enemy has a vote". There are "contingencies". You plan for all possible likely scenarios.

If we have good assets and plan well, we will have a good team in a year.

I believe Kahn has mostly made good decisions. The only thing I question right now is The RAMBIS TRIANGLE.
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Post#17 » by Krapinsky » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:11 am

I'm not doubting the Rambis triangle at all. So far the main problem is on defense. That's expected with a rookie point guard, a gimpy Jefferson, and the rest of our cast of characters. Other than that players just aren't making open shots or the just don't know what they are doing. The shots might not come, we'll have to change personnel for that, but eventually the players will learn the system. If say, after a year, the players still don't know what's going on, then we can begin to seriously consider the triangle a problem for us.

One thing that people haven't really said yet is that all prior teams to run the triangle were veteran laden squads where players had established roles. We don't have either. Everyone on our team is young, inexperienced, and still trying to get theirs. I think all that is the main problem.
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Post#18 » by deeney0 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:02 am

I can't identify a main problem. The team is bad a defense. The team is bad at offense. The team can't rebound, can't finish at the rim, can't shoot, can't get to the line, and can't make 'em once they do get there. They're unfocused. They seem unmotivated.

But I'm not doubting the triangle either. System is not why these guys aren't succeeding. They just... suck, other than Jonny. Some of the other guys have shown flashes, but flashes don't win games.
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Post#19 » by lobishome » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:43 am

Worm Guts wrote:I can just see it, Lebron calls David Kahn this summer and says "Mr. Kahn, I've decided I'd like to sign with the Wolves" and Kahn replies "Sorry Lebron, we're looking to building around 2 and you're more of a 3."


After read the posts my conclusion is "Kahn haven't any plan" (still). When I asked about the key position I was hoping that Kahn at least was thinking in a 4 or 5, or in a 1 or 2. I was hoping he was thinking in a "Howard, Duncan Garnett", or "Wade, Paul, Nash" kind of players.

LeBron, and others top 3 are special cases, they can play in any project or, with triangle or without triangle, or in the LeBron case build new project around him. The only problem for get them is the money, not the project.

But Kahn still not have fusking idea about "what kind of top player" he will get, and maybe this can answer the questions of deeney0 and Dr.Krapinsky ... the team's problem is ... the team don't exists still.

BTW, talking about Rubio, when Kahn said to Rubio that he will be a important key of his project, ... he couldn't promise him something like this, Kahn only was a "snake charmer".
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Post#20 » by hotshotschamp » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:48 am

kevin love and evan turner will make the triangle magic.

word.

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