Jackson Admits Suns Were "tired and heavy-legged"

[dantian]

Bynum had a pretty good game versus the Nuggets but the Lakers lost anyway, the key for that game was playing good man and team defense on Kobe. Aaron Affalo did an excellent job on Kobe from what I saw.
If our shots were falling versus the Lakers the game would have been competitive but for some reason they just wouldn't go down, Barbs, Stat and J Rich had terrible offensive stats but perhaps that is due to fatigue?

I'm glad that somebody saw what I saw too.
We worked out good shots against the Lakers unlike our losses to the Spurs in the playoff. Admitted, the way Kobe was having a field day with our defense, we might still have lost it even Amare, JRich, and LB hit the easy shots that day. As for Amare, I maintain that he is trying to adjust to his new body after the injury. He's improved his footwork and patience aspect of the one-on-one attack. He rarely forces the issue and shots. He just need to finetune his touches for those close-range shots after bumps with the size of Bynum. And he will adjust soon as long as the team and Nash is willing to let him learn from failure. Not worried.

[JohnVancouver]

Since we all know so damn much, how about we as a brain-trust come up with a scheme for playing the Lakers? tsherkin for one is a savvy x-o type.

I appreciate the compliment, but at least spell my name properly... no caps. There have never been caps in my name, and I've been posting all over the boards for 6 years now, c'mon.


---- Apologies.

So, which end is the issue? I happen to think the dreadful offensive performance was largely because of tired legs, but clearly we didn't take sufficient advantage of the pick-and-roll. Not having the jumper as a threat was a problem. We need to establish Amare early, and I think we need to play him at center. We don't have anyone who can legitimately guard Bynum anyway, so if he's going to torch us, we might as well make it back, because Amare's equally unguardable.

--- Doesn't that lead us into the old Amar'e with three or four quick fouls situation? Unless he just waves Bynum pat?




Beyond that, there's little the Suns can scheme for offensively because they don't have a lot of versatility. They need to hope the shots go down and that Amare's aggressively driving to the rack... and not putting up (Please Use More Appropriate Word) swing-finger roll BS shots like he was that night. WTF were those? Man up and try to dunk, idiot.

--- I agree - Amar'e was oddly passive. Tired?

I'm still hoping that Frolo may add something to the mix when he comes back.

[tsherkin]

---- Apologies.

No foul, just a pet peeve.

--- Doesn't that lead us into the old Amar'e with three or four quick fouls situation? Unless he just waves Bynum pat?

Do you see him doing anything else anyway?

--- I agree - Amar'e was oddly passive. Tired?

Or just stupid; he's not a guy who's worrying about his application to Mensa.

This is a guy who once thought it a good idea to think about expanding his range out beyond the arc, when the main reason he's effective is from his high-efficiency points in the paint and drawing fouls. And he can take his apostrophe and stuff it.

Stoudemire needs to be aggressive early and be the one making BYNUM tentative by playing aggressive. That's how this team needs to operate; set the tone early and make the first moves that force the OPPOSITION to react, not just bend over and take it.

Yeah, fatigue played a factor, poor defenders played a factor, maybe intimidation, and very much so a lack of a coordinated response to the Lakers. So they need to come out next time and attack. Attack Bynum early and often and take him out of the game if possible and that's a start.

[Mr. Sun]

In other words, rather than play behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum in the post, the Nuggets positioned their defenders in front of them or to the side of them. The Nuggets made it more difficult to pass the ball to Bryant and/or Bynum.

The strategy was different than other Lakers opponents have tried this season. Judging by the results, more teams might try it in future games since the Nuggets were the first opponent to slow down Bryant and Bynum.

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_13792789

What I been saying for ages and no one listens!

[dantian]

---- Apologies.

No foul, just a pet peeve.

--- Doesn't that lead us into the old Amar'e with three or four quick fouls situation? Unless he just waves Bynum pat?

Do you see him doing anything else anyway?

--- I agree - Amar'e was oddly passive. Tired?

Or just stupid; he's not a guy who's worrying about his application to Mensa.

This is a guy who once thought it a good idea to think about expanding his range out beyond the arc, when the main reason he's effective is from his high-efficiency points in the paint and drawing fouls. And he can take his apostrophe and stuff it.

Stoudemire needs to be aggressive early and be the one making BYNUM tentative by playing aggressive. That's how this team needs to operate; set the tone early and make the first moves that force the OPPOSITION to react, not just bend over and take it.

Yeah, fatigue played a factor, poor defenders played a factor, maybe intimidation, and very much so a lack of a coordinated response to the Lakers. So they need to come out next time and attack. Attack Bynum early and often and take him out of the game if possible and that's a start.

Let's see. 3pt shot being a good idea? That's DA's system and encouragement. No defensive fundamentals? That's DA's system too.
If you watched the Lakers game, you should know that Amare did attack Bynum often and worked out good close-range shots that just missed. His touch after collision with Bynum's body, maybe aided by the schedule induced fatigue and over excitement, was not soft enough for them to drop in this game. Nothing to worry about.

[garrick]

In other words, rather than play behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum in the post, the Nuggets positioned their defenders in front of them or to the side of them. The Nuggets made it more difficult to pass the ball to Bryant and/or Bynum.

The strategy was different than other Lakers opponents have tried this season. Judging by the results, more teams might try it in future games since the Nuggets were the first opponent to slow down Bryant and Bynum.

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_13792789

What I been saying for ages and no one listens!

It's fundamental basketball to front players trying to post up rather than just playing behind them, that does require good team D though because if they do manage to pass it to the post players you'll need players to rotate to stop the player from getting a wide open shot.

[Jimmy76]

Frye and Lopez are not better defenders then Amare.

Then we are doomed. Doooooomed.

I saw that gif in your avatar earlier on the gif board and it creeped me the **** out

what is it?!

[tsherkin]

Let's see. 3pt shot being a good idea? That's DA's system and encouragement. No defensive fundamentals? That's DA's system too.
If you watched the Lakers game, you should know that Amare did attack Bynum often and worked out good close-range shots that just missed. His touch after collision with Bynum's body, maybe aided by the schedule induced fatigue and over excitement, was not soft enough for them to drop in this game. Nothing to worry about.

I'm not saying I'm worried. We all know the Suns were dead-legged after a brutal stretch in the schedule, and durr, we have to make shots in order to challenge the opposition.

The basic recipe remains the same; attack with Amare and Nash, with every variation we know, then go into the post with J-Rich to mix things up. Run as much as possible. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Defensively, we should be fronting Bynum and delaying Kobe's attempts to get into the post as long as possible to shrink the shot clock and increase their chances of committing a turnover or taking a bad shot.

[JohnVancouver]

In other words, rather than play behind Kobe Bryant and Andrew Bynum in the post, the Nuggets positioned their defenders in front of them or to the side of them. The Nuggets made it more difficult to pass the ball to Bryant and/or Bynum.

The strategy was different than other Lakers opponents have tried this season. Judging by the results, more teams might try it in future games since the Nuggets were the first opponent to slow down Bryant and Bynum.

http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/ci_13792789

What I been saying for ages and no one listens!

Mods - sorry about the new thread - hadn't seen this when I posted.

[TXSun]

look what happened to the Lakers on a back 2 back. got their a$$es hand it to them. back2backs in the Western Conf are very tough.