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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#21 » by tontoz » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:28 am

If Indy hangs on and beats Boston the Hawks will have the best record in the east, tied for the best record in the NBA.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#22 » by parson » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:30 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:Marvin and Teague had rough nights. The rest of the 4 starters+Marvin played well. Josh Smith 15 defensive rebounds 2 blocks and 3 steals. Also 8-12 from the floor on the other end. IDK if he will make the all-star team based on his numbers but he's clearly had that type of impact so far.

Can't blame the rookie but Marvelous is worrying me. He's a square peg trying to fit into a round hole right now. Not seeing that ball-handling improvement he promised.

Smoove is looking great, I agree. And he seems to have done it his way.

But the flash from Randolph Morris .... He showed something I never saw in him.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#23 » by evildallas » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:41 am

Is it possible that we gave an opponent a hangover? Didn't expect Boston to fall in Indy. Unbelievable stat line from Josh tonight and only 2 turnovers. Rough night shooting FT by most everyone. I don't mind threes off ball movement, but a couple times tonight we gave up on inside position to fire the ball out for a three. That's a low percentage gamble.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#24 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:45 am

Oh how times have changed.
Is it to much to ask for a team that plays hard and cares? Seems so.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#25 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:49 am

The funny thing is-it doesn't look like the Hawks defense was that bad(if you ignore that they didn't have CP3). New Orleans shot 44 percent from the floor,27,from 3,and 61 percent from the line. They also had 16 turnovers. I guess the pace of the game was able to get them 98.
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Post#26 » by conleyorbust » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:27 am

My feed was shaky but from what I saw, the Hawks looked like freakin showtime out there.

They just turned on the jets and beat the snot outta already banged up Hornets.

Smith and Horford are a really dynamic front court pair.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#27 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:35 am

Anyone watching the Milwaukee Golden State game? I know its the Warriors but...Brandon Jennings is unreal. This may have been my best pick in fantasy basketball history.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#28 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:50 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:Anyone watching the Milwaukee Golden State game? I know its the Warriors but...Brandon Jennings is unreal. This may have been my best pick in fantasy basketball history.

I went to school with him and am good friends with him. Hes cooking
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#29 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:00 am

I can't believe someone who is paid to evaluate basketball could pass on this guy. I was intrigued about this guy solely off his number 1 recruit status and his youtube clips. Some people say that anyone looks good on youtube...but watching this guy play competitive basketball in the 1st 10 games of the year-he plays exactly like he does in those clips ALL of the time.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#30 » by ATL DirtyBird » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:07 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:I can't believe someone who is paid to evaluate basketball could pass on this guy. I was intrigued about this guy solely off his number 1 recruit status and his youtube clips. Some people say that anyone looks good on youtube...but watching this guy play competitive basketball in the 1st 10 games of the year-he plays exactly like he does in those clips ALL of the time.

Its so great to see him doing so well. I thought he **** up by going overseas but it all worked out, its good that hes succeeding after all hes been through, I wish we could of gotten then I could of gone to every game
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#31 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:11 am

I thought the Knicks will regret taking Jordan Hill and passing on Lawson-but the Jennings thing is a whole new level considering they had Duhon at pg. I wonder how long it will take before people will start hammering D'antoni/Walsh like they did Billy Knight with Chris Paul.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#32 » by Harry10 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:15 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:I thought the Knicks will regret taking Jordan Hill and passing on Lawson-but the Jennings thing is a whole new level considering they had Duhon at pg. I wonder how long it will take before people will start hammering D'antoni/Walsh like they did Billy Knight with Chris Paul.


forget about NY, what about MINN who took Rubio over Jennings.

i was just thinking the other day, before the 55..... would Jennings be averaging 25/5 with D'Antoni and the Knicks?
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#33 » by Harry10 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:26 am

HoopsGuru25 wrote:I can't believe someone who is paid to evaluate basketball could pass on this guy. I was intrigued about this guy solely off his number 1 recruit status and his youtube clips. Some people say that anyone looks good on youtube...but watching this guy play competitive basketball in the 1st 10 games of the year-he plays exactly like he does in those clips ALL of the time.


same here, i liked this guy since i heard about him in high school. i don't do fantasy, but i did have him ranked as my #1 PG in a PG heavy draft. i'm trying to find my old post on realgm, were i said i was hoping the Hawks work out a trade with Washington for Marvin, so the Hawks could get either Jennings, DeRozan, or Harden
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#34 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:46 am

Minny will recieve no backlash for passing on Jennings as long as Flynn plays well. Rubio hasn't even came to the states yet as well. The Knicks currently have the worst starting pg in the NBA and their lottery pick has racked up multiple DNP-CD's already. They also don't have a draft pick next year which makes it 10 times worse.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#35 » by Harry10 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:58 am

^ Flynn is playing well???

check out the MINN board, their is already a backlash
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#36 » by HoopsGuru25 » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:07 am

I just looked at the front page of the Minny board and see nothing specific about Jennings....while the NYK,Tor,and GS boards have gone crazy already. From What I see...Flynn is averaging 14 ppg on very good effienecy. His passing numbers have been bad(which is the case for most triangle pgs)-but you don't consider that playing well for a 20 year old pg?
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#37 » by playa_lev » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:18 am

It worked out well for Jennings to come to Europe. I think he learned a lot here about the game, the team basketball, and the intensity of professional basketball.

Earl Boykins said the other night, that playing basketball in Europe is a lot harder than playing in the NBA. And that’s true … you can’t watch the stats and judge the players (Jennings was about: 6 pt 2 ast 2 reb in 20 minutes), so you can’t judge Rubio neither, until he plays in the NBA. He runs the point for the best team in Europe, and he does it well. I think he would be an outstanding point guard in the league.
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Re: Saturday: New Orleans @ Atlanta 

Post#38 » by evildallas » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:59 pm

I think the mistake for Minnesota was more not being able to sign Rubio. The 5th pick in the draft is expected to be an immediate impact player. When you're rebuilding a franchise and have a frustrated fan base getting nothing out of the 5th pick (or almost nothing like Shelden Williams), you are going to upset people escpecially when someone picked a little later like Jennings (or Brandon Roy) blows up. If Rubio had signed the fans might still be upset about missing out on Jennings, but at least he'd have a fighting chance at proving he was the right pick. Unsigned it remains a horrible pick just as if he was here and flopping immensely. To further back my argument I don't hear people complain that GSW passed on Brandon Jennings although he is clearly outperforming Stephen Curry. Curry's signed and playing. Although 8 teams passed on Jennings, the only teams getting grief right now Minnesota because they spent a pick on a guy they couldn't sign and New York who drafted a guy who is not getting PT despite playing on such a horrible team and because they're starting point is having a horrible stretch of play.

Minnesota isn't the first to make such a mistake, Orlando drafted Fran Vasquez in the 2005 lottery and never was able to sign him. It's overlooked a bit because it was the 11th pick and no one immediately after him broke out. Although they could have had Danny Granger (17th), Jason Maxiell (28th) or David Lee (30th) if they just realized that Vasquez wasn't coming over for the 11th pick money.
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