Offseason plans

[Moreyball]

With the likelihood of the Rockets being slightly over/under/around the cap with Scola and Lowry getting new deals. And the Rockets not being a serious contender at landing one of the big 4...with Yao's injury concerns, etc.

Who can and who should the Rockets spend the MLE money on? Ginobli, Marcus Camby, Udonis Haslem, someone else?

[rocketsballin]

if anything, houston should revamp their roster a bit. trade or dont resign scola or landry, whoever has higher value . have hayes play about 20mpg, landry or scola starting pf . keep andersen next year

[Mr. E]

It is way too early to be thinking about the offseason. Right now we should be wondering about pre-deadline moves. Everything could change on this team between now and our last game of the playoffs.

Yes, playoffs.

[YaoZaii]

well, i don't think that we will have an issue with scola and lowry. we will have have McGrady's and Cook's contracts off the books. Dorsey's small contract will be rid of too. i think scola will ask for a ariza-type of contract. Yao's contract will be off the books and surely renewed... (probably smaller than his current contract. I expect lowry to get a landry-size deal. I expect the rockets to keep this core and possibly go over the luxury cap. the trade to get under luxury cap will be probably before the trade dateline. this has been rockets' pattern of transactions lately. The bigmen of Scolandry, Hayes, Anderson and Yao seems to be set. I think we will probably need to do a S&T if we plan to get involved in 2010 free agency (if the lebron gang opts out) or 2011. Like I say, our best bet is with McGrady. My hope is that McGrady plays really well when he gets back and we can do a S&T for one of the guys like Wade who might be interested in playing with a determined cast. Ariza has shown me that he is not the go-to player in every game though he has performed better than what i expected overall. Once Cook and McGrady comes off the books, that's when Morey is going to show his real talent. book it and be ready to be in awe.

[Mr. E]

Yeah, everything that Morey has done so far has been with virtually no substantial cap room.

I'm thinking that even "a little" room will be pretty awesome to watch Morey play with.

[texasholdem]

Yao's contract will be off the books and surely renewed... (probably smaller than his current contract. .

Yao has a player option and will very likely use it

[YaoZaii]

Yao's contract will be off the books and surely renewed... (probably smaller than his current contract. .

Yao has a player option and will very likely use it

there could be a possibility that he might opt out for a longer contract.

[Moreyball]

there's no way he leaves that much money on the table with his career a question mark.

he might be willing to restructure his contract but i doubt it.

[hipmaster]

Let's get through this season first. Who knows what will happen before the end of this season.

[Teckon]

Just 12 games into the season, we are talking about off-season plan...

Morey will be focused on this season unless some unexpected good offers come along. Good offers such as a an allstar + fillng for Tmac type of deal. Chance of such offering is not high but possible when a team is out of playoff contention and near deadline to shed salary. Such move will change all scenario we have now.

Anyway since this thread is about off season, I would to share the following as i see some incorrect information being used here:

- Yao has a player option and would probably opt in given his current injury
- Landry is under contract till 2011 like Yao if Yao opt in.
- Rockets have a team option on Dorsey but chances are Dorsey maybe traded or renounced rather than exercising the option. Every $ count when creating Cap room is concerned.
- Rockets has a team option on Chuck Hayes and no decision make yet. If not extended, he will become a Restricted FA and his cap hold is around $4.6 million
- Rockets did not offer extension to Lowry. Lowry will be Restricted FA. His cap hold is around $6 millions.
- Scola will be a Restricted FA. HIs cap hold is around $6.8 million.
- The cap holds of Lowry, Scola and Hayes are eating up the cap room for 2010-2011 season . Rockets can increase cap room by renouncing these 1,2 or all 3 but it is a risky strategy as they will have no leverage in their negotiation with these 3 once they renounce their rights.


Hypothetically, if Rockets managed to sign Scola to MLE type of contract ($5.8 million), Hayes and Lowry to Landry's type of contract ($ 3 million each), renounce Dorsey. The total salary of Rockets for 2010-2011 season is around $45 million. IF the Cap is $52 million, then the cap room available is $7 million for Rockets to use but no MLE to use.

Note if the Cap is $50 million, Rockets will be better off by resigning all their Restricted FA and have a MLE to sign new players.

Another way to sign Allstar type of player would be sign and trade with TMac. Morey has to be creative about how to utilize that.

Batter will be a big trade asset too if Ariza and Budinger develop well.

[YaoZaii]

Just 12 games into the season, we are talking about off-season plan...

Morey will be focused on this season unless some unexpected good offers come along. Good offers such as a an allstar + fillng for Tmac type of deal. Chance of such offering is not high but possible when a team is out of playoff contention and near deadline to shed salary. Such move will change all scenario we have now.

Anyway since this thread is about off season, I would to share the following as i see some incorrect information being used here:

- Yao has a player option and would probably opt in given his current injury
- Landry is under contract till 2011 like Yao if Yao opt in.
- Rockets have a team option on Dorsey but chances are Dorsey maybe traded or renounced rather than exercising the option. Every $ count when creating Cap room is concerned.
- Rockets has a team option on Chuck Hayes and no decision make yet. If not extended, he will become a Restricted FA and his cap hold is around $4.6 million
- Rockets did not offer extension to Lowry. Lowry will be Restricted FA. His cap hold is around $6 millions.
- Scola will be a Restricted FA. HIs cap hold is around $6.8 million.
- The cap holds of Lowry, Scola and Hayes are eating up the cap room for 2010-2011 season . Rockets can increase cap room by renouncing these 1,2 or all 3 but it is a risky strategy as they will have no leverage in their negotiation with these 3 once they renounce their rights.


Hypothetically, if Rockets managed to sign Scola to MLE type of contract ($5.8 million), Hayes and Lowry to Landry's type of contract ($ 3 million each), renounce Dorsey. The total salary of Rockets for 2010-2011 season is around $45 million. IF the Cap is $52 million, then the cap room available is $7 million for Rockets to use but no MLE to use.

Note if the Cap is $50 million, Rockets will be better off by resigning all their Restricted FA and have a MLE to sign new players.

Another way to sign Allstar type of player would be sign and trade with TMac. Morey has to be creative about how to utilize that.

Batter will be a big trade asset too if Ariza and Budinger develop well.

wow u did your homework well.

Our best bet is the S&T with Tmac if everything stays status quo.
Somehow, i see all 3 being a rocket if no crazy deal appears though Scola's age might be a concern for future considerations.

[Teckon]

wow u did your homework well.

Our best bet is the S&T with Tmac if everything stays status quo.
Somehow, i see all 3 being a rocket if no crazy deal appears though Scola's age might be a concern for future considerations.

I had a few discussion/debate on the off season plan earlier this year in July/August and hence have a good understanding

i did not mention one point that with the economy seem to be on it recovery phase, the Cap may increase to $55 million or more. In such scenario, the cap room will be $10 million which maybe good enough to sign a Good near allstar type of player.

So far Morey has demonstrated he can spot player with hidden value and had taken advantage to sign them cheap. But for player with value that everyone can see for themselves, he will no longer have that advantage. In such scenario, the one that is willing to pay above market will get their player. Example: Gortat. Both Magic and Mavs were willing to pay him MLE while Morey did not.
For current Allstars, Morey will have the same chance as any GM but Morey maybe able to get ex Allstar or young player under the radar type cheap.