Player of the Game - Wizards vs Cavaliers (11/18)
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1.Tawn
2.CB3
3.Miller/Gil - both had pretty good stat lines aside gils shooting %
2.CB3
3.Miller/Gil - both had pretty good stat lines aside gils shooting %

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bulletproof_32 wrote:Good signs -- Gil and CB had pretty poor shooting performances and we still won against a quality opponent.
isn't that the logic of the built-in redundancy of the big three?
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bulletproof_32 wrote:Good signs -- Gil and CB had pretty poor shooting performances and we still won against a quality opponent. I'm optimistic that both of those guys are going to figure out their roles/ spots in the O and start putting up more respectable percentages which is going to make the Wiz a really dangerous team.
What saved the Wizards from their poor shooting was the ability to get to the line and take advantage of their Free Throws when they got there.
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pancakes3 wrote:anybody think that butler should take a 6th man role? he seemed more comfortable as the focal point of the offense once gil was off the court.
Start
Gil
Foye
Miller
Jamison
Haywood
with a really stacked 2nd unit of
Boykins
DS
Butler
Blatche
Oberto
really that takes 2 gameplans.
I think having Butler come off the bench may help him get out of his shooting slump. I might start DS instead of Foye(but give Butler and Foye more minutes). I think a line-up after the first sub should be:
Boykins
Foye
Butler
Jamison
Oberto
This gives Butler the ability to be a ball handler, but also enough good passers that he does not have too much pressure on him. I also would like to see Blatche going against the back-up PF with most of the other starters in the game.
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Miller had +- of +26. Jamison had +4.
The game turned when Miller decided to use his best assest. His shot.
The game turned when Miller decided to use his best assest. His shot.
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I've been hating on DS quite a bit, but he was great last night. Most important line for him 0-0. That is zero shots taken. If he never shoots again, I will be quite happy. Also, it seems like DS is far better against bigger guys like Lebron than he is #2 guards like Ben Gordon. So maybe that should be his role - defending against 3 men. Maybe D-Mac (Foye?) is better against athletic 2 guards?
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Mel Proctor wrote:. Also, it seems like DS is far better against bigger guys like Lebron than he is #2 guards like Ben Gordon. So maybe that should be his role - defending against 3 men. Maybe D-Mac (Foye?) is better against athletic 2 guards?
Thoughts?
I think Foye is a good match up against the smaller 2 guards. Even if they score a lot he can answer at the other end. The problem with an Arenas/Foye backcourt is when they face a team with a big 2, in which case DS, Miller or Butler is a better option.
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1. The game MVP is obviously Antawn Jamison. The game is another embarrassing blowout without him.
2. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the guy who tells Caron Butler he's not a starter anymore.
2. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the guy who tells Caron Butler he's not a starter anymore.
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nate33 wrote:pancakes3 wrote:anybody think that butler should take a 6th man role? he seemed more comfortable as the focal point of the offense once gil was off the court.
Start
Gil
Foye
Miller
Jamison
Haywood
I'd start:
Gil
Miller
Jamison
Blatche
Haywood
Bring Butler in pretty early for Blatche, then bring Blatche back in to rest Jamison.
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Spence wrote:2. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the guy who tells Caron Butler he's not a starter anymore.
Agreed.
And I want to clarify my original post. I'm not yet advocating the benching of Butler because I think he is needed as our only athletic wing defender. I was just saying that if Butler is indeed benched, I'd want to start the big lineup with Jamison at SF, rather than a small lineup with Foye at SG.
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Butler could still get thirty minutes and finish games coming off the bench.
It's just a matter of who's playing well together.
It's just a matter of who's playing well together.

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Sure. All Stars love coming off the bench. They don't get upset about it at all.Hoopalotta wrote:Butler could still get thirty minutes and finish games coming off the bench.
It's just a matter of who's playing well together.

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Spence wrote:Sure. All Stars love coming off the bench. They don't get upset about it at all.Hoopalotta wrote:Butler could still get thirty minutes and finish games coming off the bench.
It's just a matter of who's playing well together.
Which is why we should instead tell him he can still be a starter...just on whatever team we send him to in exchange for defenders and expirings.

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LyricalRico wrote:Spence wrote:Sure. All Stars love coming off the bench. They don't get upset about it at all.Hoopalotta wrote:Butler could still get thirty minutes and finish games coming off the bench.
It's just a matter of who's playing well together.
Which is why we should instead tell him he can still be a starter...just on whatever team we send him to in exchange for defenders and expirings.

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I haven't been here regularly for a while [my loss], so forgive my ignorance, but do you really want to trade Caron Butler for expiring contracts?LyricalRico wrote:Which is why we should instead tell him he can still be a starter...just on whatever team we send him to in exchange for defenders and expirings.
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^ Not expirings only. We'd need a young 2-way wing in return as well. Something like Caron to Portland for Rudy+Webster+Outlaw.
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Well, if Caron doesn't improve his shooting soon, you may get your wish.LyricalRico wrote:^ Not expirings only. We'd need a young 2-way wing in return as well. Something like Caron to Portland for Rudy+Webster+Outlaw.
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