Minor Trade Proposal

Rod700 · Post #1 » by **Rod700** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:12 pm

The Hawks recent success seems to be due to our efficient offense (4th best FG%) and our rebounding (8th best rebounding difference), but our defense is not spectacular (18th best in opponents’ FG%). Indiana, on the other hand, is 21st in FG% and 8th in Opponents’ FG%, and the two teams seem to be good fit for a minor trade. In comparing Zaza and Foster, we see that they would be a good switch:

Zaza:
1. Scoring: Pushes the ball inside and scores timely points that kill opposing teams’ momentum. (When he is given the minutes.)
2. Rebounding: When last year’s numbers are adjusted to starter minutes (35 minutes), Zaza was on pace to get 10 rebounds a game (10.4)
3. Defense: Zaza is about as lost on defense and Jeff Foster is on offense.

Foster:
1. Scoring: Foster is about as lost on offense as Zaza is on defense
2. Rebounding: When last year’s numbers are adjusted to starter minutes (35 minutes), Foster was on pace to get about 10 rebounds a game (9.7)
3. Defense: Although, not a dazzling shot-blocker by any means, Foster is an effective one-on-one defender against opposing bigs.

Thus the two teams gain the following:

Atlanta:
1. Trading a player that doesn’t receive the needed minutes to score his points for a defensive big man that can come off the bench in a limited role and help with the 7 footers that have given Horford problems in the past.
2. Receiving near equal rebounding quality in return
3. Gaining another veteran presence

Indiana:
1. Gets an offensive talent for defensive
2. Gets a role player that can help them keep momentum
3. Gets near equal value for rebounding
4. Gets a younger player that is about to be 26 for a player that is about to be 33.
5. Gets a healthy player for one coming off an injury
6. Gets more bulk inside (275 pounds).
7. Would get a 2nd round pick to push this trade through if you want it.

EDIT: I should have also added that the Hawks would need to throw in a filler such as Morris, Collins, or Hunter to make the trade work, and that it cannot take place till December 15th, due to a trade restriction.

Dunthreevy · Post #2 » by **Dunthreevy** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:43 pm

Indiana:
1. Loses Jeff Foster, a local hero, for a player that 90% of Hoosier-staters have never heard of

no thanks

Post #3 » by **Miller4ever** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:51 pm

How long is Pachulia's contract?

Foster has a contract that helps out our 2011 plan.

Pachulia is going to put a damper on those plans. 4 more years?

Icky.

Boneman2 · Post #4 » by **Boneman2** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:42 pm

I understand it from ATL's perspective, and I've certainly advocated trading Foster to a contender for a first round pick. Wouldn't have any interest in Pachulia's contract length, although I would like to add a player of his caliber.

I'd trade Foster if ATL gave us their late first in 2011. Add in a 1 or 2 year deal and were good.

FreeRon · Post #5 » by **FreeRon** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:22 pm

No way. Even with the first rounder. We take back a much worse contract, a player that MAY help us as much as Foster, and we give up a huge hustler/fan favorite. I say Hibbert is ready to play in the next 4 years, and where does that leave Zaza and his contract?

Post #6 » by **PR07** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:41 am

I don't really think this trade helps us. If anything, it just hurts our cap room plan.

Boneman2 · Post #7 » by **Boneman2** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:00 am

FreeRon wrote:No way. Even with the first rounder. We take back a much worse contract, a player that MAY help us as much as Foster, and we give up a huge hustler/fan favorite. I say Hibbert is ready to play in the next 4 years, and where does that leave Zaza and his contract?

I said I would give them Foster for a first and a 1 or 2 yr. deal, instead of ZaZa.

FreeRon · Post #8 » by **FreeRon** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:19 am

I like that a little better, but I'd really have to look at what we got in return. If the pick turns out to be in the late 20's, we're probably going to get a role player at best. The chance that Foster's attitude and work ethic will rub off on the younger players is worth more than that to me.

FreeRon · Post #9 » by **FreeRon** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:23 am

Just playing around with it, but the only deal that really works salary-wise is Foster for Bibby and they won't do that. Couldn't happen until Dec. 15th but that wouldn't matter because they'd be out of their minds to do that. I even tried multiple players. Do they have a trade exception or something? I'm pretty sure ours expired.

Post #10 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:52 pm

Sorry, that contract on Zaza is a complete non-starter to a Foster deal, and is a no deal, unless Atlanta overpays ridiculously.

Put in Teague and it might intrigue Bird, but it'd take an overpayment like that.

Rod700 · Post #11 » by **Rod700** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:05 pm

I understand the concern and the respect for Foster's role on your team. Originally, I wanted to come at this from the angle of fillers, expiring contracts (including Joe Smith who has been rebounding well), and a first round pick for Foster. I just couldn't get our contract amount high enough on our end of the trade to match Foster's contract. I appreciate anyone taking a crack at it though and possibly adding in a couple of players of equivalent talent to make it work.