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Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#1 » by Captain Erv » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Discuss.

tompelissero: #Packers CB Al Harris needed to lean on a trainer just to limp out of the locker room. I'd be stunned if he plays again this season.


tompelissero: Via @MikeVandermause, knee injuries to Harris and Kampman "don't look very good," McCarthy said. Grant suffered a stinger but should be fine


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Greg_A_Bedard: Indications are both Aaron Kampman and Al Harris will be out a while, if not season. "Both injuries did not look very good," McCarthy said.

Greg_A_Bedard: If McCarthy is saying that, it means the doctors fear the worst. Harris could barely walk out of locker room. Kampman not seen.

Greg_A_Bedard: And I'm being told that despite how it appeared, Kampman's injury is likely the worst of the two.
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Re: Pack-Niners post-game/Harris probably done for year 

Post#2 » by MikeIsGood » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:16 pm

The mere description of Harris' injury led me to believe he'd be out for the season. He planted his foot, turned and buckled? Yea, see ya.

Injuries, injuries, injuries...
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Re: Pack-Niners post-game/Harris & Kampman's seasons in doubt 

Post#3 » by Ryan5UW » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:34 pm

Agreed on Harris. They didn't show it, but the way it was described, it couldn't have been good. Same for Kampman, he pretty much went down on his own, nothing happened to him to cause it. Makes me even more upset we didn't trade him this past offseason. What ever little value we might have been able to squeeze out of him this offseason is now gone.
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game (Harris/Kampman's seasons in doubt) 

Post#4 » by Ryan5UW » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:55 pm

Looks like Harris tore his ACL and is done for the year.
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#5 » by MikeIsGood » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:22 pm

BTW, I have a pet peeve related to something that was said during the game. I guess it's a little odd, but it bugs me when people say something is patented when in fact it is not patented. Like the "Packers' patented screen pass."
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#6 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:45 pm

Just back from the game. Great weather for late November. UW Band performing pregame, halftime and postgame. Didn't stick around for the fifth quarter. A win is a win but I'd love to play 60 minutes of good football.
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#7 » by El Duderino » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:09 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Just back from the game. Great weather for late November. UW Band performing pregame, halftime and postgame. Didn't stick around for the fifth quarter. A win is a win but I'd love to play 60 minutes of good football.


I think the by far biggest reason between the first/second half was pass rush. In the first half, we got to Smith, second half very little pressure even when Capers blitzed.
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#8 » by an_also » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:37 pm

I think its safe to say Finley is a vital cog in the offense
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#9 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:45 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Just back from the game. Great weather for late November. UW Band performing pregame, halftime and postgame. Didn't stick around for the fifth quarter. A win is a win but I'd love to play 60 minutes of good football.


Where did you sit MD? notorious and I were in the 18th row behind the endzone that all the action DID NOT happen in.
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Re: Pack/Niners post-game discussion 

Post#10 » by Wade-A-Holic » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:25 pm

Was at the game again. Things that stuck out for me:

1. Jarret Bush is still terrible at everything he does, special teams included. Tramon Williams sucks at punt returns. Not only does he not fair catch the ball, but when it's bouncing backwards, he runs alongside it. He's been doing that all year and it's possibly the dumbest thing I've seen a player do on a consistent basis all season. One of those is going to take a funny bounce, hit him, and get recovered by the other team. The huge return we gave up in the 2nd half was a clear case of losing gap discipline. Just a really frustrating, correctable mistake that's been happening all season long. I don't think I've ever seen a punter mis-hit the ball as frequently as Kapinos does.

2. Our defensive line (Pickett, Jenkins, Jolly, and Raji) is really good. Not only were they stout but they all are smart, react well, and make plays. They sniffed out screens and got off blocks to stop the run effectively all day. You can really tell that Raji is getting healthy and it's helping us keep the other guys fresh.

3. When Kampman went out, it looked like Brad Jones and Poppinga got a 50-50 split on playing time. I hope most of that goes to Jones going forward.

4. The offensive line showed improvement for the second straight week. They even got out properly on a screen pass or two. What I'm afraid of now is other teams knowing that when BJ is in the game, there's a good chance a screen is coming. I don't trust McCarthy to mix it up enough when he's in there that opposing defenses won't expect it.

5. What value has Donald Lee added to this team this year? He had a drive-killing drop in the second half on third down and that was the only time he even showed up in the game.

6. That was the best I've seen Ryan Grant run since we took apart the Bears at home last season.

7. The 2nd half can be attributed to three things: McCarthy coaching not to lose, the offense not executing properly (they still have to execute the plays he calls), and the defense didn't seem as aggressive in general, although it was McCarthy's play-calling in the first half that got us that lead. It's good to see we're not running the West Coast ass-backwards anymore. Now we might actually see the deep ball open up a bit.

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