Strikeforce - Evolution (December 19th)

2009NBAChamps · Post #1 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:15 pm

This card just got another great addition to it and thought I'd start up the discussion.

Main Card:
* Josh Thomson (16-2) vs. Gilbert Melendez (16-2) (unification fight)
* Cung Le (6-0) vs. Scott Smith (16-6)
* Ronaldo ‘Jacare’ Souza (10-2) vs. Matt Lindland (21-6)
* Robbie ‘Ruthless’ Lawler (16-5) vs. TBA
* Muhammed ‘King Mo’ Lawal (5-0) vs. Mike Whitehead

If they can find a decent opponent to give Lawler a fight then should be a great card. Definitely excited for the Thompson/Melendez fight, and interested to see what Cung Le does out there.

Also pulling for Jacare to make a splash in the SF scene. Maybe a possible rematch with Mousasi down the line??

Anyways, it airs at 10pm on Showtime for you folks that have it, just cross your fingers all of these fights hold through.

Cammo101 · Post #2 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:19 pm

I'll believe Thompson fighting when he is introduced by the PA announcer. He has pulled out of something like 3 fights in a row.

Great card if it holds though.

2009NBAChamps · Post #3 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:24 pm

Cammo101 wrote:I'll believe Thompson fighting when he is introduced by the PA announcer. He has pulled out of something like 3 fights in a row.

Great card if it holds though.

Yeah he's going to be a question mark especially after pulling out of their previously scheduled rematch, but he seems like he really wants to get this fight over with.

“I want to get this whole interim title thing dissolved,” Thomson told MMAWeekly.com in a prior interview. “I want all the complications of, who’s the champ and who’s not the champ… I mean, everyone knows that I am, but I’ve been inactive for a year and he deserves what he’s been given, but it’s time to put it all to a close.

“I’d rather fight him my first fight back and I can move on with my career and he can move on with his.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

So here's hoping...

Post #4 » by **damo[23]** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:44 pm

So Cung Le is not the champ right now? He gave that up right?

Though, I won't hold my breath that this is the strikeforce card we'll see, they always seem to have a lot of pull outs. If it stays the same though will be an excellent card.

Spartan13 · Post #5 » by **Spartan13** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:56 am

great card. Hopefully another win from King Mo and Cung Le will put them in title contention.

Cammo101 · Post #6 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:08 am

Spartan13 wrote:great card. Hopefully another win from King Mo and Cung Le will put them in title contention.

In Strikeforce, King Mo is a title contender as long as he is...

A) 205 pounds
B) Breathing

2009NBAChamps · Post #7 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:36 am

damo[23] wrote:So Cung Le is not the champ right now? He gave that up right?

Though, I won't hold my breath that this is the strikeforce card we'll see, they always seem to have a lot of pull outs. If it stays the same though will be an excellent card.

Yeah, he gave it up so that he could originally pursue a movie career. Somehow that turned into him fighting on this card first and then pursue acting. Which has ultimately led most to believe he's protecting his record and mystique as a fighter, by dodging tougher competition/bad matchups (as Shields would be).

Cammo101 · Post #8 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:46 am

2009NBAChamps wrote:
damo[23] wrote:So Cung Le is not the champ right now? He gave that up right?

Though, I won't hold my breath that this is the strikeforce card we'll see, they always seem to have a lot of pull outs. If it stays the same though will be an excellent card.

Yeah, he gave it up so that he could originally pursue a movie career. Somehow that turned into him fighting on this card first and then pursue acting. Which has ultimately led most to believe he's protecting his record and mystique as a fighter, by dodging tougher competition/bad matchups (as Shields would be).

Le says he had a movie, that was going to keep him out for a year and a half, fall through and now he has like a year before it starts.

One thing is for sure, Strikeforce will do everything in their power to make sure they only match Cung Le up with people who they are sure will not try to take him down.

Spartan13 · Post #9 » by **Spartan13** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:16 am

Yes but if he keeps winning it will only be a matter of time before they can avoid giving him another title shot. And personally, i'd take the underdog on Le vs Shields.

Cammo101 · Post #10 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:44 am

Spartan13 wrote:Yes but if he keeps winning it will only be a matter of time before they can avoid giving him another title shot. And personally, i'd take the underdog on Le vs Shields.

Cung Le would spend the entire fight on his back doing nothing IMO. Strikeforce knows this, which is why even though Shields has begged for this fight, I doubt it will happen.

Spartan13 · Post #11 » by **Spartan13** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:03 am

But how many more victories can Cung Le get in Strikeforce without ever getting a title shot?

I say 2. That or he leaves Strikeforce to fight somewhere else or does another movie.

And Cung Le has a wrestling and takedown background as well, not to mention bone breaking striking. I wouldnt count him out so easily.

Cammo101 · Post #12 » by **Cammo101** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:22 am

Spartan13 wrote:But how many more victories can Cung Le get in Strikeforce without ever getting a title shot?

I say 2. That or he leaves Strikeforce to fight somewhere else or does another movie.

And Cung Le has a wrestling and takedown background as well, not to mention bone breaking striking. I wouldnt count him out so easily.

Le is never going to be a full time fighter again. He will pop up and then disappear for the rest of his career most likely.

Nemesis21 · Post #13 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:26 pm

Good card if line up stays true.

Nemesis21 · Post #14 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:38 pm

G Melendez over Thomson
Le over S Smith
Jacare over Lindland
Robbie Lawler over Prangley
King Mo over Whitehead

Post #15 » by **CPT** » Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:34 pm

I'd heard that Strikeforce would be bringing in Manhoef to fight Lawler, but then went I went to look for a link, I saw that it's now more likely Lawler will be fighting Trevor Prangley.

2009NBAChamps · Post #16 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:01 pm

Would Manhoef even be able to clear testing?

They just need a guy to stand and bang with Lawler. Let him get a knockout and hype him up more to the casual fan.

Nemesis21 · Post #17 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 11:47 pm

Will this card be on CBS or Showtime ?

Posey H8er · Post #18 » by **Posey H8er** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 12:42 am

Nemesis21 wrote:Will this card be on CBS or Showtime ?

Showtime. The next CBS card will probably be in March or April.

Nemesis21 · Post #19 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 12:49 am

Posey H8er wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:Will this card be on CBS or Showtime ?

Showtime. The next CBS card will probably be in March or April.

Thanks.

Nemesis21 · Post #20 » by **Nemesis21** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:11 pm

Next saturday night should be a good night of fights with this Strikeforce card and WEC card on tv