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Re: Sheed has proven me right 

Post#21 » by Kefa461 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:50 pm

I would like to ask just what is a "lazy chucker" anyway.....why is the "lazy" label being attached to Wallace. I have never before heard him called "lazy" until now.









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Post#22 » by grantlongforpresident » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:15 pm

Kefa461 wrote:I would like to ask just what is a "lazy chucker" anyway.....why is the "lazy" label being attached to Wallace. I have never before heard him called "lazy" until now.
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A chucker shoots a lot and rarely passes. Like Jamaal Crawford or Al Thorton or Ben Gordon or George Costanza.

Sheed isn't dribbling around trying to get open and shooting faders. He is just chillin at the arc, launching 3's like a catapult even if he happens to be a couple feet behind the line. I rarely see him work hard on O. So i call him lazy.

When he starts breaking a sweat, crashing the boards, following his shot, going for an oop, etc.. i'll drop the lazy title.
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Re: Sheed has proven me right 

Post#23 » by Kefa461 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:49 pm

grantlongforpresident wrote:
Kefa461 wrote:I would like to ask just what is a "lazy chucker" anyway.....why is the "lazy" label being attached to Wallace. I have never before heard him called "lazy" until now.
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A chucker shoots a lot and rarely passes. Like Jamaal Crawford or Al Thorton or Ben Gordon or George Costanza.

Sheed isn't dribbling around trying to get open and shooting faders. He is just chillin at the arc, launching 3's like a catapult even if he happens to be a couple feet behind the line. I rarely see him work hard on O. So i call him lazy.

When he starts breaking a sweat, crashing the boards, following his shot, going for an oop, etc.. i'll drop the lazy title.



14.9 ppg
6.9 rpg

14 year avg does not equate to lazy.


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Post#24 » by captain green » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:54 pm

I don't know? Does he shoot to much sure, does he whine a lil sure, but I'm happy to have him on our squad.
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Post#25 » by Kids Are Alright » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:12 pm

Sheed didn't score a point against us until garbage time in Detroit last year and I remember saying, man, he's pretty much a non-factor, and he's looking it now.

Of course, he's had a great career, he's just old. Bummer we picked up an old guy though, even if he fills a need.
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Post#26 » by grantlongforpresident » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:25 pm

Kefa461 wrote:
grantlongforpresident wrote:
Kefa461 wrote:
14.9 ppg
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14 year avg does not equate to lazy.


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I think his 2010 O is lazy. Doesn't matter what he did on the Bullets & Blazers.
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Post#27 » by triplet1984 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:55 am

CELTICSinME wrote:Yeah Sheed is jacking a lot of threes, everyone knows that. But I'm sure that when the time comes to "flip the switch" in the later part of the season, heading into the postseason, he is going to play more inside than we are currently seeing. He is just saving his body for when it really matters.


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Post#28 » by Cyclical » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:18 am

I think there's a lot of black and white arguments about Sheed but the truth is he's not as bad as some would make him out to be and certainly not as good as some think he is.

When the signing first happened I posted that a lot of people are going to be disappointed; that he's not the savior people made him out to be; that he hasn't been very good over the last couple of years. But, that at the same time, he'll bring much better skill on both sides of the court that we've had from the likes of Moore and O'Bryant and that the price is right. That's what we're getting folks. Don't expect too much from the guy. He'll have some good nights and he'll have some frustrating ones.

There's plenty to dislike -- the technicals, the proclamations of breaking the Bulls' record; the sometimes questionable shot selection, the occasional lack of hustle, but, he's still an asset to this team. Strong team defender, if not the one-on-one guy he used to be, and when the shot is falling - and it will - he can be a game changer. With KG's getting more into game shape and Baby coming back into the fold his minutes will probably not go over 20 per game. Let's take the good with the bad and lower expectations. There's other things the team needs to focus on as well.
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Post#29 » by Kids Are Alright » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:09 pm

Cyclical wrote:I think there's a lot of black and white arguments about Sheed but the truth is he's not as bad as some would make him out to be and certainly not as good as some think he is.

When the signing first happened I posted that a lot of people are going to be disappointed; that he's not the savior people made him out to be; that he hasn't been very good over the last couple of years. But, that at the same time, he'll bring much better skill on both sides of the court that we've had from the likes of Moore and O'Bryant and that the price is right. That's what we're getting folks. Don't expect too much from the guy. He'll have some good nights and he'll have some frustrating ones.

There's plenty to dislike -- the technicals, the proclamations of breaking the Bulls' record; the sometimes questionable shot selection, the occasional lack of hustle, but, he's still an asset to this team. Strong team defender, if not the one-on-one guy he used to be, and when the shot is falling - and it will - he can be a game changer. With KG's getting more into game shape and Baby coming back into the fold his minutes will probably not go over 20 per game. Let's take the good with the bad and lower expectations. There's other things the team needs to focus on as well.


I'd like to see him bang a little in the post on offense. No big deal, an occasional putback, a 10' jumper now and then, in fact, I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of that from KG at times too. Old big men can be a menace down low, it's been done before. The Walter route isn't the only way to go.
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Post#30 » by treefi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:33 pm

Coming from a Piston fan...

Sheed has problems. He's not going to stop shooting 3's until the playoffs start and even then he'll take more than you are comfortable with. I can't imagine how many he must be taking this year for you guys... I feel your pain! He'll only play great post defense if he's matched up against someone who challenges him... Otherwise, he'll drive you crazy with his laziness on both ends of the court.

By the end of the year you'll learn to get excited when Sheed gets angry because that means he'll probably start playing in the post where he is almost unstoppable... but after awhile it will drive you even crazier because no one can understand why Sheed doesn't want to be amazing. He's a mystery.
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Post#31 » by PPAW4Life » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:42 pm

Sheed isn't lazy on defense. He's out there working hard, causing some steals and block some shots a little. He's also rebounding when has the opportunities to be out there to rebound.

But Sheed is really struggling with his 3 point shot. I think it's in his head now.

When people start talking about the 3's, Doc, the media, even Sheed himself, then we know it's a big deal.

When Sheed is airballing wide open 3's, it is definitely in his head.

Sheed needs to find his stroke back.
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Post#32 » by treefi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:48 pm

I haven't been able to watch Sheed much in Boston yet... but I can definitely see him trying again on defense because of how defensive-minded Boston is as a team. Last couple of years in Detroit he was lazy on D... When we first traded for him he was incredible defensively.
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Re: Sheed has proven me right 

Post#33 » by sully00 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:40 pm

One thing about Wallace good or bad is that he is smart and I think he knows he has a finite amount of game left in his body. He is the anti Iverson in the sense that he wants to get to the post season and have to do as little heavy lifting as possible to get there. It was joked about but I think it was true he came to Boston because he wouldn't have to start and log over 2000 mins to get there. I think that both he and Garnett are already playing more than they envisioned at this point in the season. Games are tighter and there is no Glen Davis to give one of them a night off.

In the end I think that Wallace is symptomatic of the team and that is what is frustrating everyone about him but it isn't really his fault it is just reality. You hear Doc talk about this is a physical team that is letting teams make it an athletic contest. But the reality is we got 4 months to go and we are George Foreman, we may have to cover up for a few rounds because we are not going to be able to be physical for 4 months and have enough in the tank to get through the post season.
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Re: Sheed has proven me right 

Post#34 » by Raptor/LakerFan » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:37 pm

after reading the first page it sounds like this lazy three point chucker should be on the raps.
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