What to do with Boozer?

[StocktonShorts]

If he is commited to play as hard he can I would extend his contract.

Earlier in this thread when I said the Jazz couldn't extend Boozer's contract, I was wrong. I was thinking of rookie contracts (like Brewer's) which have that Oct 31 deadline.

So theoretically the Jazz could extend Boozer as late as June 30 next year. That changes things a little bit.

[JoyDivision]

If he is commited to play as hard he can I would extend his contract.

He is committed to play hard until he can get another big payoff. It's a contract year, what do you guys expect? We've known for a long time he's all about the money, don't let him pull the wool over your eyes. As soon as he receives his contract he will once again be content with going through the motions.

He is absolutely not a person I want in the Jazz's future, especially considering we have Millsap and a probable top 5 pick.

[majortripps69]

Exactly. Jazz already committed to sap as the PF of the future. Unless they are going to deal him, Booz is pretty much out of the equation after the year is over.

Right now I would deal Millsap and extend Boozer. He is light years ahead of Millsap in every aspect except maybe the emphatic block he gives you every other game. Look at his line from last night for instance. 26pts, 12rb, 7ast, 1 stl, 1 blk. You can't compare Millsap's night because of his injury, but Boozer is playing outstanding and has for about the last 10 games. He is in a groove and we need to ride it out. He is also the only player on our team averaging a double-double.

When you talked earlier about Boozer being inconsistent, this really isn't the case. When he is healthy, he gives you what we are seeing right now. Remember a couple of years ago the run into the Wester Conference finals? He was the one who tore up Houston to win that game 7 down there and was one of the reasons he was an All-Star back-to-back years. Millsap will never be an All-Star, and I never drank the Millsap koolaid like a lot of people have, so I am not biased on this one. He's a great role-player/bench player, he is NOT an NBA caliber starting PF.

[write4u]

Boozer's on a roll right now. You just don't forget all that's happened in the past because of a string of good games. If we hadn't signed Millsap or Okur, it would be a different story, but you overrate Boozer by saying he's our best player.

[jazzfan1971]

If I could move him for Kevin Martin I would. It's terrific that he's playing well right now. He's showing potential trade partners that he's not damaged goods. I like that.

Lets just see if the conservative Jazz have the balls to make a move with him. The Jazz aren't known as a team big on making trades.

[majortripps69]

If we hadn't signed Millsap or Okur, it would be a different story, but you overrate Boozer by saying he's our best player.

Right now, he IS our best player. If you can prove otherwise, let's see it.

[erudite23]

If he is commited to play as hard he can I would extend his contract.

He is committed to play hard until he can get another big payoff. It's a contract year, what do you guys expect? We've known for a long time he's all about the money, don't let him pull the wool over your eyes. As soon as he receives his contract he will once again be content with going through the motions.

He is absolutely not a person I want in the Jazz's future, especially considering we have Millsap and a probable top 5 pick.

What's funny is people actually believe this drivel. Say what you want about Boozer's durability issues. Fine, its hard to argue that he isn't "injury prone" with all the time he's missed. But to say that he has EVER "gone through the motions" on the court is 100% unequivocal bull ****. The dude gives it everything he has on the court and comes to play night in and night out. He may not be your quintessential hustle guy who dives for loose balls, but he plays hard and he plays smart every night. Its never ceases to amaze me how people can be so stupid in evaluating players once that player has done something to get on their bad side.

[red4hf]

Again, this situation just goes to show why we shouldn't have overpaid for Millsap.......

He cannot be a starting PF for a team that hopes to compete for a title....... Boozer on the other hand can carry a team with his scoring and rebounding, and he's actually improved both his defense and his passing.......

[majortripps69]

Agreed red4hf.. His defense this season has been far better than in the past, and he's doing very well with the assists.

[partnerfusion]

Send him to Houston for Battier and Scola.

[GP]

During the espn chat, it was mentioned that the jazz's best move may to wait for boozer to expire and then sign and trade him. This works for the jazz because they get someone in return. Boozer on the other hand gets more money, because the jazz can offer him more than any other team.

[StocktonShorts]

During the espn chat, it was mentioned that the jazz's best move may to wait for boozer to expire and then sign and trade him. This works for the jazz because they get someone in return. Boozer on the other hand gets more money, because the jazz can offer him more than any other team.

I guess that's Option 3. I should've included it. Although... (correct me if I'm wrong here) it's not that the Jazz can offer him more money than ANY other team, it's that the Jazz can go over the cap to sign him and then trade him to a team that's also over the cap.

A max deal is a max deal. If a team with cap space offers him max money, the Jazz can't offer him max money + $X.

[red4hf]

The Jazz can offer 1 more year on a max deal than any other team, which means more money.......

[erudite23]

Yeah, the Jazz CAN offer him more, in the form of bigger year to year raises. Any team signing a player which they hold the rights to can offer, iirc, 10.5% raises per year, while a team signing another team's player can only produce 8% raises. Not sure if those are the exact %s, but its something very similar to that. Also the Jazz could offer him one more year than another team could, 6yrs as opposed to the 5yr deal other teams can offer.

Not that those things matter too much, Boozer might be a max or near max player were he coming out of his first contract, but now that his a a 7yr + vet and eligible for a much higher percentage of the cap, he is nowhere near worth max dollars. Plenty of guys get max 2nd contracts. Very, VERY few get max deals on the 3rd. We're talking about Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Webber, KG type guys. Boozer will be lucky to get 14 or 15m per year. A max deal will be worth around 20 per.

[Wolverine]

Im on the resign bandwagon now. Trade Okur & Millsap for Bogut & filler. AK can split back up 4 spot. Then we can draft favours or the Euro if we don't get the #1

[carrottop12]

I love what Boozer is doing right now, but I've just seen him sitting on the bench for a third of the season far to often in his career, and his bad defense costing us big games.

Honestly, unless we get some good offer at the trade deadline that gives us a legit star with a good contract, let the deal expire and re-examine the situation then after the draft. If you are going to be spending 13+ mill on a player this offseason, make sure you get the right one because there are a ton of good players available. And if we end up with Favors in the draft, let Millsap handle the starting duties for a few years then phase him in and save the money.