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Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#1 » by red222 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:27 pm

According to the Score by Hub Arkush Inquires have been made by the Bears to the top 5 coaches on the market

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Post#2 » by Balance-a-Bull » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:28 am

Total house cleaning should include the attic ....at the top.... with Jerry Angelo also, considering he put the team together.
A plea for post scoring is a plausible Bulls plan, but plainly isn't a priority. In response to a post player's dismay about his lack of points in the paint, Paxson said.... "I'm not nearly as concerned about the offensive stuff as he is."
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Post#3 » by DanTown8587 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:05 am

Tear the whole house down and rebuild it with a new contractor (coach), architect (GM) and design (players)
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Re: Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#4 » by fisher » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:04 am

red222 wrote:According to the Score by Hub Arkush Inquires have been made by the Bears to the top 5 coaches on the market

Your thoughts?


Even though the Bears are denying it, there has to be some kind of truth behind this. Jerry Angelo basically went all in on the Cutler deal and said all we needed was a franchise QB. Well we got him and he's been getting worse as the season progresses. Either that reflects bad coaching because they're making Cutler worse, bad personel evaluation because he wasn't all that good in the first place, or some combination of both. Whatever the case may be, Angelo can no longer hide behind the excuses he used in the past.

Will say this though: if the Bears are really serious about getting a big name guy, it better not be John Gruden as some rumors suggest. Get Cowher, Holmgren, or Shanahan please.
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Post#5 » by Howling Mad » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:26 pm

Bears say 'no truth' to report of surveying for new coach, GM
November 24, 2009 5:50 PM

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Someone in the Bears' organization at a level above general manager Jerry Angelo has begun surveying options for changing the coach or general manager, or both, according to Hub Arkush, a football expert on WSCR-AM 670 and publisher of Pro Football Weekly.

"Inquiries have been made, feelers have been put out," Arkush said on the radio station today regarding the initial step of gauging interest and affordability of some of the big-names candidates available.

Arkush specifically named former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who groomed Bears quarterback Jay Cutler and helped him earn a Pro Bowl berth in Denver; former Steelers coach Bill Cowher and former Buccaneers and Raiders coach Jon Gruden. All three have won Super Bowls.

Asked about the report, a team source said, "There's absolutely no truth" to the report.
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Post#6 » by SportsWorld » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:01 pm

That's a good sign since the Bears organization are normally a bunch of liars.
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Post#7 » by SportsWorld » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:44 pm

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/20 ... eport.html
Several Bears are irked by a report saying high-level officials in the organization have started surveying options for replacing Lovie Smith and or general manager Jerry Angelo.
Hub Arkush, the publisher of Pro Football Weekly, made the claim during a radio interview Tuesday

"It bothers me because where's the information coming from?'' tight end Desmond Clark said. "If it was information that we were all privy to and it was true, we'd have to deal with it. But when it's just speculation, it kind of leads you to believe that certain people have certain agendas. I don't know if that's the case, but that's what I would tend to believe from the beginning when you have "sources."

Arkush specifically named former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, former Steelers coach Bill Cowher and former Buccaneers and Raiders coach Jon Gruden. All three have won Super Bowls, and Shanahan had a seven-hour interview with the Buffalo Bills for their head-coaching job.

Defensive co-captain Adewale Ogunleye was bugged by the report, too.

"It bothers me because the season's not over," Ogunleye said. "I probably don't believe that's true. If it is, it means that somebody is giving up. And we haven't given up. I really think we're about to make history.


:waaa: Maybe if you guys played with some passion, these reports wouldn't get out there. Instead, you guys play for an underachieving team that needs to make changes.
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Re: Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#8 » by Balance-a-Bull » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:24 am

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football ... 25.article

Is Mike Martz on his way to Bears?

Source says Martz might be man to replace Turner, rework offense and try to save old pal Lovie's skin
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BY BRAD BIGGS bbiggs@suntimes.com

With the Bears on a three-game skid and piling up losses for the first time in the post-Super Bowl era, the burning question around the NFL is torn from the pages of ESPN The Magazine: Who's got next?

A source close to former St.Louis Rams coach Mike Martz, most recently the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator last season, said the architect of The Greatest Show on Turf might finally be headed to Chicago. Martz -- infamously slated to be the offensive coordinator for Dave McGinnis before Michael McCaskey fouled up McGinnis' hiring in 1999 and Dick Jauron came to town -- is an out-of-work coach serving as an analyst for NFL Network and surveying where he might land next.
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A source close to former St.Louis Rams coach Mike Martz, most recently the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator last season, said he might be headed to Chicago.

How about with the Bears, as coach Lovie Smith's coordinator?

''Martz would love to work with Jay Cutler,'' said the source, who cited the close relationship between Smith and Martz in sharing the information.

Smith is expected to stay with the Bears in 2010 because of more than $10 million in walking-away money.

But offensive coordinator Ron Turner and at least part of his staff could be another story. The Bears (4-6) purged their defensive staff last offseason, and it might be the offense's turn in January as Smith makes a final effort to turn around a franchise headed toward its third straight season of missing the playoffs. Since Turner was hired in 2005 after the firing of Terry Shea, the offensive staff has been untouched. In that same span, Smith has changed seven defensive position coaches and moved the title of defensive coordinator from Ron Rivera to Bob Babich to himself.

Smith and Martz have known each other forever. Smith started at Arizona State in 1988, a year after Martz had left the Sun Devils program. Martz made Smith the Rams' defensive coordinator in 2001. When Smith began assembling his first Bears coaching staff in 2004 and was looking for an offensive coordinator, he turned to Martz for ideas. Martz didn't have anyone on his staff to recommend for the job, so he called then-Kansas City coach Dick Vermeil, and that's how the Bears got Shea, the Chiefs' quarterbacks coach. When Shea tried to hold up the Bears for big money, Martz devised a plan where the Bears could use Jim Colletto and Marc Trestman as co-coordinators.

Now, Martz might bring his own playbook to Halas Hall.

Martz, who last week on NFL.com said, ''I do want to coach again,'' angered Smith in September when he called out Cutler on the debut of ''The Coaches Show'' on NFL Network, criticizing Cutler's news-conference etiquette and looking out for Smith by saying Cutler ''doesn't understand that he represents a great head coach.'' Surely, that could be ironed out. As coordinator, Martz would bring instant credibility and a Super Bowl ring.

''We had some great years in St. Louis,'' said Bears left tackle Orlando Pace, who played under Martz for seven seasons with the Rams. ''I am surprised he didn't get a gig.''

Martz was offensive coordinator under Rod Marinelli in Detroit in 2006 and 2007 before his season in San Francisco. The common denominator in both stops was he didn't have a quarterback, and there wasn't a lot of talent to go around. Cutler would change that.

''When we were rolling good, we had a good mix,'' Pace said. ''[Quarterback] Kurt [Warner] was probably the best at picking up the blitz and knew it was coming, and they worked well together. I think it was a combination of coaching and having the right keys in place to make the plays.''

Pace said Martz's struggles with the Lions and 49ers ''may have been a combination'' of a lack of talent and defenses figuring Martz out.

''When you've had success for a while in the league like he did, guys take a look at it and say, 'Well, what can I do to disrupt his stuff and his success?''' Pace said. ''Maybe that was a part of it, also.''

Martz has been viewed by some as a rogue coordinator who acts at his own discretion and sometimes puts the quarterback and even the defense in bad positions. He has a strong bond with Smith, though, and if Smith turns to him again for assistance, whom else would Martz recommend?

''Coach Martz is a big-play guy,'' Pace said. ''He wants the big plays all the time. You have to have a defense that is sound. He's going to put up 30 points a game if he can, but you have to have a defense. We had some instances like that [where the defense was put in tough spots]. But like I said, he's a gambler. He gambles, and it paid off for us a bunch of times.''

If Smith makes a move, is there anyone else he'd want to gamble on with his future on the line?


I would rather bring in Shanahan if possible.

It is evident that some changes will be made.
A plea for post scoring is a plausible Bulls plan, but plainly isn't a priority. In response to a post player's dismay about his lack of points in the paint, Paxson said.... "I'm not nearly as concerned about the offensive stuff as he is."
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Post#9 » by NoSkyy » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:30 pm

The Charlie Weis saga is near end at Notre Dame and the report shows that NFL teams have shown interest in him.

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ ... nfl_teams/

How about him as the OC for the Bears? I think he's a pretty good offensive guru and I'm one of those people that believe the defense doomed him over the years at ND.

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Re: Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#10 » by SportsWorld » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:28 pm

I'd take him as offensive coordinator for sure. I think he's very creative on the offensive end.
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Post#11 » by NLK » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:03 am

I dont care who is the OC as long as Turner is gone. that guy is just flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word).
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Post#12 » by ChronicKerr » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:06 am

Please no Charlie Weis
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Post#13 » by WEFFPIM » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:51 am

ChronicKerr wrote:Please no Charlie Weis


Seconded. Sure, his offense was great in New England, but it's not like that offense has missed a beat since he's left.
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Post#14 » by Howling Mad » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:25 pm

Intermediaries reached out to Bill Cowher: Hub reveals

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Mike Esposito wrote:Earlier this week, the Score's Hub Arkush reported on the Boers and Bernstein Show that a high-ranking member of Bears management had reached out through an intermediary to some of the big free agent coaches, to gauge interest and get information in case the team decided to make a move with Lovie Smith.

On today's pregame show on the Score, Hub clarified this point, saying that it wasn't multiple free agent coaches but one in particular - former Steelers Head Coach Bill Cowher.

The Bears have denied the report, but Hub stands by the story and calls his source impeccable.
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Re: Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#15 » by Cliff Levingston » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:27 pm

Angelo isn't high enough. Phillips needs to be ousted, along with Vagina McCaskey.
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Post#16 » by Chewie » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:54 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Angelo isn't high enough. Phillips needs to be ousted, along with Vagina McCaskey.


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Post#17 » by Howling Mad » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:43 pm

:P :P :P
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Post#18 » by Chewie » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:07 pm

BULL even PAX wrote:I want some damn cheerleaders. :wink:


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Did Angelo draft this group ?
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Post#19 » by Howling Mad » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:28 pm

Chewie wrote:
BULL even PAX wrote:I want some damn cheerleaders. :wink:


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Did Angelo draft this group ?


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Re: Possible total house cleaning could come? 

Post#20 » by chitownsports4ever » Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:23 am

Im not sure we would be willing to give any of the top coaches the type of control they would want to coach here . I just dont see anyone in the family being willing to do to that .
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