Wolves worse than winless Nets?

[sfernald]

Curry won't be successful as a SG on a "normal" team.

Check his stat line. The kid is just a flat-out player. His stats show that he is going to be a complete player, and he is a smart kid. God just wait till his shooting touch finally arrives. He would have done just fine in your system. He is exactly the kind of player you want and need in the triangle.

[funkatron101]

I remember Kobe getting a lot of hype pre-draft. If he and his agent weren't so demanding in regards to where he played, I'm guessing he would have been in the top 6.

[Krapinsky]

http://sportsbybrooks.com/former-hornet ... rade-23078

Here's the story.

Seems he refused to work out for a number of teams, much like OJ did not want to work out with us. However the only teams mentioned that he did work out for -- NJ and Phili -- passed on him for Iverson and Kittles. It's unclear his reasoning why he didn't want to work out for New Orleans, but I still think the idea of any late lotto pick being able to orchrestate a trade is absurd. As the story says, Kobe was largely unproven at that point and to many an unknown commodity. The Hornets simply preferred Divac.

[B Calrissian]

Kobe said Lakers or 76ers because he was from Philly.

Ah yes, it was the Sixers. They had the number 1st pick and probably didn't want to risk it on Kobe when AI was available.

[Krapinsky]

Curry won't be successful as a SG on a "normal" team.

Check his stat line. The kid is just a flat-out player. His stats show that he is going to be a complete player, and he is a smart kid. God just wait till his shooting touch finally arrives. He would have done just fine in your system. He is exactly the kind of player you want and need in the triangle.

It appears you are just anti Timberwolves and pro everyone else.

When we drafted we didn't know who are coach would be or what system we were going to run, so it's hard to blame him for not picking Curry. I disagree however that Curry will be any better than Flynn or Rubio in the long term.

[B Calrissian]

http://sportsbybrooks.com/former-hornets-gm-still-defending-bryant-trade-23078

Here's the story.

Seems he refused to work out for a number of teams, much like OJ did not want to work out with us. However the only teams mentioned that he did work out for -- NJ and Phili -- passed on him for Iverson and Kittles. It's unclear his reasoning why he didn't want to work out for New Orleans, but I still think the idea of any late lotto pick being able to orchrestate a trade is absurd. As the story says, Kobe was largely unproven at that point and to many an unknown commodity. The Hornets simply preferred Divac.

I stopped reading that linked article when I saw the title "Former Hornets GM Defends Kobe-For-Divac Deal". What is he going to say? "I am an idiot for trading Kobe" ??

[sfernald]

Curry won't be successful as a SG on a "normal" team.

Check his stat line. The kid is just a flat-out player. His stats show that he is going to be a complete player, and he is a smart kid. God just wait till his shooting touch finally arrives. He would have done just fine in your system. He is exactly the kind of player you want and need in the triangle.

It appears you are just anti Timberwolves and pro everyone else.

When we drafted we didn't know who are coach would be or what system we were going to run, so it's hard to blame him for not picking Curry. I disagree however that Curry will be any better than Flynn or Rubio in the long term.

Khan should have had a Coach in place before the draft, so the picks would fit his system. He had time to do so, but he choose not to, for whatever reason.

I'm not anti-timberwolves, just a bit baffled by their management. I think Rubio will end up great when he comes, but I don't think he'll fit any better (or worse) than Flynn in the triangle. He's not a shooter and he needs to move the ball around like jennings (and flynn) to utilize his talent. So he's probably trade bait.

Khan should have got Rambis signed before the draft and Rambis should have tailored the picks to his system, instead of just going for "Assets". It's that simple. I think Flynn was a fine pick, not arguing that. It's the other picks I am more concerned about. Looking forward, instead of in the past, though is more useful. I hope, really hope, he makes the right choices with his draft picks this coming year, and lets Rambis get people who will fit his system (instead of the best "Asset"), and doesn't just trade them away in a swirling dervish of wheeling and dealing.

[funkatron101]

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/sp ... .html?_r=1

Bryant foreshadowed his gall. In 1996, Bryant, a teenager exiting high school for the N.B.A., was not the first pick, but he exuded self-importance when he refused to play anywhere but Hollywood.

With the 13th selection, with a deal to trade Bryant to Los Angeles in pocket, Charlotte chose him. But there was a point where it looked as if the Lakers’ Vlade Divac would retire rather than take part in a trade that would send him to Charlotte for Bryant.

Couldn’t Bryant be a Hornet? Could he grow to love Southern sweet tea?

“That is an impossibility,” Bryant’s agent, Arn Tellem, said at the time. “There are no ifs. It would not happen. He is going to be a Laker, and that’s the only team he’s playing for.”

[Esohny]

Curry is not a starting SG on a contending team. Casspi is not a starting SF on a contending team. All I see here are suggestions for how to have a team forever fighting for the 8th playoff seed and drowning in mediocrity.

[Krapinsky]

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/sports/29roberts.html?_r=1

Bryant foreshadowed his gall. In 1996, Bryant, a teenager exiting high school for the N.B.A., was not the first pick, but he exuded self-importance when he refused to play anywhere but Hollywood.

With the 13th selection, with a deal to trade Bryant to Los Angeles in pocket, Charlotte chose him. But there was a point where it looked as if the Lakers’ Vlade Divac would retire rather than take part in a trade that would send him to Charlotte for Bryant.

Couldn’t Bryant be a Hornet? Could he grow to love Southern sweet tea?

“That is an impossibility,” Bryant’s agent, Arn Tellem, said at the time. “There are no ifs. It would not happen. He is going to be a Laker, and that’s the only team he’s playing for.”

Ha. This makes me hate him even more. But I wonder if that quote is out of context and was made after a deal with New Orleans was already in place.

[Krapinsky]

Sfernald

If he did a coaching search before the scouting process he wouldn't have had time to scout the players. He was hired on as a GM only so much time before the draft.

I also don't know that we can say our players don't fit Rambis's system. it's just that our player's aren't very good.

[cpfsf]

Sfernald

If he did a coaching search before the scouting process he wouldn't have had time to scout the players. He was hired on as a GM only so much time before the draft.

I also don't know that we can say our players don't fit Rambis's system. it's just that our player's aren't very good.

Yet somehow Foye and Miller make us a playoff threat.

[C.lupus]

Khan should have had a Coach in place before the draft, so the picks would fit his system. He had time to do so, but he choose not to, for whatever reason.

I'm not anti-timberwolves, just a bit baffled by their management. I think Rubio will end up great when he comes, but I don't think he'll fit any better (or worse) than Flynn in the triangle. He's not a shooter and he needs to move the ball around like jennings (and flynn) to utilize his talent. So he's probably trade bait.

Khan should have got Rambis signed before the draft and Rambis should have tailored the picks to his system, instead of just going for "Assets". It's that simple. I think Flynn was a fine pick, not arguing that. It's the other picks I am more concerned about. Looking forward, instead of in the past, though is more useful. I hope, really hope, he makes the right choices with his draft picks this coming year, and lets Rambis get people who will fit his system (instead of the best "Asset"), and doesn't just trade them away in a swirling dervish of wheeling and dealing.

Kahn was hired one month before the draft. He had to get his staff together and prepare for the draft. Where is all this time you say he had to do a thorough coaching search? First you say he should have spent more time scouting players, then you say he should have spent all his time finding a coach. It doen't work that way sport. Hiring takes time. Scouting takes time.

[john2jer]

Curry won't be successful as a SG on a "normal" team.

Check his stat line. The kid is just a flat-out player. His stats show that he is going to be a complete player, and he is a smart kid. God just wait till his shooting touch finally arrives. He would have done just fine in your system. He is exactly the kind of player you want and need in the triangle.

Golden State is not a normal team. They're a run and gun, unconventional, defense be damned, Nellie-ball team.

Curry is a point guard, not a shooting guard, and Flynn is putting up better numbers, in less minutes, on a slower paced team. You fail, hard.

And as far as having a coach in place, Kahn was hired a month and a half before the draft. He didn't fire McHale until 3 weeks before the draft. Hiring a coach takes time, as does scouting players. You'd be whining about kneejerk decisions if Kahn found away to accomplish all that in a short period of time.

And when you consider that Flynn is putting up better numbers in a less than ideal offense for him, right now, than everyone besides Jennings, and even BJ is starting to come back to earth, then I think Kahn did a damn good job of scouting.

Admit it, you have nothing to contribute besides the same blind hate that uninformed non-fans have "contributed".

[Al n' Perk No Layups!]

Here's one idea that would certainly change the way teams rebuild:

1) All of the money from television/internet is accumulated into a pool and paid out to only playoff teams.(this is supposed to be the big incentive to make the playoffs).

2) Playoff teams get no draft picks.

3) The draft order of the teams left is in reverse of their record (ie, the team with the best record without making the playoffs, gets the first pick). This will encourage teams to always build the best possible team they can each season and play every game to win.

How's that for a three-minute makeover?

That's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard about anything. This idea destroys what little parity this league has. It leaves the bad teams in the cellar forever with no legitimate way to improve. How are you gonna climb out of the basement when the teams better than you are getting all the talent in the draft and have all the money to sign free agents? What's Mike Miller (if you can even afford him since you have no money) gonna do for you when you competition grabs Kevin Durant?

There's also no way this will encourage teams to try there best. The tanking that would result would be much worse for the game. If you're running a team would you rather get the top pick in the draft or grab the eighth seed and get swept in the first round and to add insult to injury you get left with no draft pick. Hmm... let me think about that... I'll take the pick. The last few weeks of the season would be an absolute tank fest between teams that are supposed to be battling for the playoffs.

Giving the bottom dwellers the high picks is the most equitable way to run a sports league that's been thought of so far. It's the only way to keep the sport competitive.