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Post#21 » by Da Schwab » Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:36 pm

I have a question:

Is Kansas really that good or is Bill Callahan really that bad of a coach?
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Post#22 » by A.J. » Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:40 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:I have a question:

Is Kansas really that good or is Bill Callahan really that bad of a coach?


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Post#23 » by A.J. » Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:40 pm

Colt McCoy is having a sophmore jinx.
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Post#24 » by Da Schwab » Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:44 pm

Kansas is really impressive though.

Imagine if they somehow matched up vs. Arizona State for the National Championship?
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Post#25 » by A.J. » Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:45 pm

gunnabdaschwab09 wrote:Kansas is really impressive though.

Imagine if they somehow matched up vs. Arizona State for the National Championship?
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2 cinderella stories in the BCS Championship.

I'd love it.
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Post#26 » by Da Schwab » Sat Nov 3, 2007 9:11 pm

It just wouldn't sound right (not that I'd mind, because I hate the BCS). But, it just seems like a Champs Sports Bowl matchup rather than a NC one.
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Post#27 » by El Turco » Sat Nov 3, 2007 11:01 pm

manningham is a beast. more we get closer to big day scarier he gets, especially after the secondary's mistakes today.
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Post#28 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 1:11 am

LSU without question the luckiest team i ve ever seen
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Post#29 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Nov 4, 2007 1:37 am

ElTurco wrote:LSU without question the luckiest team i ve ever seen


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Post#30 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 1:50 am

i was very pessimistic on Oregon but more i see them play, more i am a fan of their game.
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Post#31 » by UrbanLegendMD » Sun Nov 4, 2007 3:04 am

Oregon are nice. So fast if they meet Ohio State in the title game it will last year deuce. Buckeyes better pray Boston College goes undefeated.
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Post#32 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 3:38 am

i much rrather play oregon then oklahoma or LSU
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Post#33 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 4:06 am

well, BC goes down and another one bites the dust. 2 more down and that leaves, OSU, LSU, OUx2, kansas and missouri with a realistic chance to play for NC. West Virginia will be left behind unless all these teams ends up losing two games(or OSU loses) which is unlikely imo. Also, Dixon has to be a front runner for heisman after "stellar" 3-int performance by Matt Ryan.
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Post#34 » by cmaff051 » Sun Nov 4, 2007 4:31 am

West Virginia should be ahead of Mizzou and perhaps Kansas. Of course, at this point the bottom 4 (OK, WVU, Kansas, Mizzou) are longshots for the National Championship game at best.

And another overrated ACC team goes down...Virginia Tech belongs nowhere near the Top 10 either.
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Post#35 » by Klomp » Sun Nov 4, 2007 5:19 am

It would be fun to see a Kansas-UConn bowl game.
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Post#36 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 5:20 am

if mizzou or kansas win rest of their games-big 12 title-they ll be placed over w.virginia no matter what mountaineers to rest of the way. Here s how i see it. (in terms of BCS standing, not my preference)

Unbeaten big-12 champ>Unbeaten Big Ten champ>One loss SEC champ>One loss pac-10 champ>One-loss big 12 champ>One loss Big ten/big east champ
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Post#37 » by cmaff051 » Sun Nov 4, 2007 6:37 am

ElTurco wrote:if mizzou or kansas win rest of their games-big 12 title-they ll be placed over w.virginia no matter what mountaineers to rest of the way. Here s how i see it. (in terms of BCS standing, not my preference)

Unbeaten big-12 champ>Unbeaten Big Ten champ>One loss SEC champ>One loss pac-10 champ>One-loss big 12 champ>One loss Big ten/big east champ


Are you joking? An unbeaten Big 12 team over an unbeaten Big 10 team? Seriously?

First, either Kansas or Missouri is going to lose a game. They play each other in the last game of the season. If both win out up to that game, and then Kansas wins that game, they will obviously surpass WVU. But if Mizzou wins that game, you are going to have a hard time convincing me that Mizzou is going to surpass WVU seeing as WVU has a sizable advantage in BCS points and WVU just faced (presumably a Top 15) Uconn the week before.

And of course, if WVU wins out, one of those teams will have to beat Oklahoma in the Championship game or they don't have a chance to surpass WVU. The BCS isn't taking a 2 loss Mizzou and they are not going to take a 1 or 2 loss Kansas just coming off a championship game defeat.

If Kansas, Ohio State and LSU win out, Ohio State and LSU will be in the National Championship game with the Jayhawks most likely going to the Fiesta Bowl. I have no idea how you say that the Big 12 has supremacy over anybody in the BCS rankings, regardless of whether Kansas is undefeated.

That being said, I highly doubt Kansas runs the table.
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Post#38 » by Nemesis21 » Sun Nov 4, 2007 7:13 am

FSU upset # 2 BC ! :clap:
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Post#39 » by El Turco » Sun Nov 4, 2007 7:24 am

cmaff051 wrote:Are you joking? An unbeaten Big 12 team over an unbeaten Big 10 team? Seriously?


yep, if kansas wins out they would be beating missouri and most likely oklahoma. if they beat both these wins better than anybody OSU have to go thru. As much as i am a homer of Big Ten and OSU,no doubt in my mind, as a conference Big 12>Big Ten and its champ certainly deserves to be placed better as long as overall records are comparable.

First, either Kansas or Missouri is going to lose a game. They play each other in the last game of the season.


that s why i used "or".

If both win out up to that game, and then Kansas wins that game, they will obviously surpass WVU. But if Mizzou wins that game, you are going to have a hard time convincing me that Mizzou is going to surpass WVU seeing as WVU has a sizable advantage in BCS points and WVU just faced (presumably a Top 15) Uconn the week before.


i wouldnt place mizzou above WVU after a win over Kansas but i would certainly put them over WVU if they manage to win the Big 12 championship game(again most likely against Sooners) as they would ve beaten 2 top six teams back to back at that point which should put them over WVU in BCS points also other polls since 2 top ten wins(kansas&oklahoma)>>>1 top twenty win(UConn). That being said none of this going to matter as Sooners pretty much locked Big 12 imo, no matter who they play in the championship game.

The BCS isn't taking a 2 loss Mizzou and they are not going to take a 1 or 2 loss Kansas just coming off a championship game defeat.


i stated if they run the table. running the table obviously includes Big 12 title game.

I have no idea how you say that the Big 12 has supremacy over anybody in the BCS rankings, regardless of whether Kansas is undefeated.


supremacy obviously isnt that important at BCS standings. Unbeaten Big Ten team is currently placed over one-loss pac-ten and SEC teams even though there is no question that those two conferences better than big 10. up until this week unbeaten ACC team-which is arguably the worst BCS conference-was also placed one-loss SEC and pac-10 teams. There would be no difference if Big 12 team goes unbeaten which i ll be shocked if that happens.
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Post#40 » by Da Schwab » Sun Nov 4, 2007 2:55 pm

After yesterday, my Top 5 would look like this:

1. Ohio State
2. Oregon
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5a. Kansas
5b. West Virginia

I've been on Oregon's jock all season, but I still truly believe that if anyone east of the Mississippi matched up with them, Oregon would crush them (including the Buckeyes).

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