Officlal Prospect thread

TheProdigy · Post #261 » by **TheProdigy** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:50 am

Updated board with tiers

1. John Wall
2. Derrick Favors

3. Wesley Johnson
4. Evan Turner
5. Cole Aldrich

6. Ed Davis
7. Xavier Henry
8. Willie Warren

9. Al Farouq Aminu
10. Solomon Alabi
11. Jarvis Varnado
12. Larry Sanders

13. Donatas Motiejunas
14. Greg Monroe
15. Devin Ebanks
16. Jerome Jordan
17. Paul George

18. Kyle Singler
19. Patrick Patterson
20. DeMarcus Cousins

Johnson and Turner are a toss up, but for now Johnson is on top since he's healthy.

This draft is DEEP at power forward. I wouldn't be surprised if Kahn took best player available(a PF) with Charlotte/Utah's pick and traded them away. Kind of like last year when we traded Ty Lawson to Denver.

hotshotschamp · Post #262 » by **hotshotschamp** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 5:55 pm

I was watching Willie Warren last night on Espn U. Holy cow did I come away impressed. His shot was just beautiful, and he was so active out there on the court, making great passes, and played a real good game.

I know we are not really in the market for a 6"3 i'sh combo Guard, but some team may get a player outof him. He's kind of got lost in the shuffle with Griffin leaving and his team not that great, but this kid can really play. He has a NBA body, and plays FAST.

I've heard the Ben Gordon comparisons, but he's a much better passer than gordon, and can be that explosive 20 pt scorer Gordon can be also. Again, not an ideal fit for the twolves in the top 5, but I was impressed!

Post #263 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:06 pm

panth181 wrote:
- I'm not convinced Ed Davis is a high-upside, Top 5 type of prospect. But to me there's not much downside, either. He will be a serviceable NBA player for a long time.

I was thinking this. I mean, don't you have to be some kind of offensive threat to be a top 5 pick?

Post #264 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:09 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
panth181 wrote:
- I'm not convinced Ed Davis is a high-upside, Top 5 type of prospect. But to me there's not much downside, either. He will be a serviceable NBA player for a long time.

I was thinking this. I mean, don't you have to be some kind of offensive threat to be a top 5 pick?

Not if you are Hasheem Thabeet

Post #265 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:17 pm

Ok, lets add the caveat that you're not over 7 feet.

hotshotschamp · Post #266 » by **hotshotschamp** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 6:49 pm

I don't like Ed Davis, luckily we have Jefferson/Love and don't need another PF.

Well unless it's Favors perhaps!

Ed davis seems very mechanical and slow on the court. I think some NBA PF's may eat him up.

Casperkid23 · Post #267 » by **Casperkid23** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:00 pm

DaKidKG wrote:Updated board with tiers

1. John Wall
2. Derrick Favors

3. Wesley Johnson
4. Evan Turner
5. Cole Aldrich

6. Ed Davis
7. Xavier Henry
8. Willie Warren

9. Al Farouq Aminu
10. Solomon Alabi
11. Jarvis Varnado
12. Larry Sanders

13. Donatas Motiejunas
14. Greg Monroe
15. Devin Ebanks
16. Jerome Jordan
17. Paul George

18. Kyle Singler
19. Patrick Patterson
20. DeMarcus Cousins

Johnson and Turner are a toss up, but for now Johnson is on top since he's healthy.

This draft is DEEP at power forward. I wouldn't be surprised if Kahn took best player available(a PF) with Charlotte/Utah's pick and traded them away. Kind of like last year when we traded Ty Lawson to Denver.

I'm sorry, but how on earth did you come up with these rankings? Patterson at 19 while Varnado and Sanders are higher than him? Jerome Jordan that high? What? Explain for me please, because I'm at a loss.

Also, what's up with all the tiers?

PeeDee · Post #268 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:04 pm

I think he just means how he ranks them for the Wolves, not where they'll be picked in the draft.

wildvikeswolves · Post #269 » by **wildvikeswolves** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:06 pm

Im really likin Xavier Henry right now. He is just what we need at the 2

Krapinsky · Post #270 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:11 pm

I like Warren, I think he belongs in the second tier with Johnson and Aldrich. The NBA is suited for his game. He's undersized, but I wonder how his measurements compare to Gordon's and Mayo's?

hotshotschamp · Post #271 » by **hotshotschamp** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:27 pm

Agree, while watching Willie Warren yesterday I was floored at just how talented he was. He was all over making plays, passes, throwing up 3's, mid range game, making steals.

He's not a pure fit for the wolves, our back-court would be way too small, but he's gonna be a VERY good nba ball player.

cpfsf · Post #272 » by **cpfsf** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:59 pm

I think NBADraft's mock draft is terrible. They have us drafting Motiejunas, Turner falling to 9th with Toronto (this was before his injury btw), and Aldrich by Memphis at 7th. I think Cole Aldrich should be available at the 5th spot just because New Jersey, Memphis, and Washington won't be drafting a center any time soon.

I think Aguilar would be a decent pick in the second round. He's a 20 year old Spanish prospect we could stash overseas until we give LAC our pick. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Pablo-Aguilar-1392/

hotshotschamp · Post #273 » by **hotshotschamp** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 8:06 pm

nbadraft net mocks are usually pretty brutal.

I don't put much stock in mock draft sites, but Draft Express is pretty good.

Turner at 9 is a joke, unless is back somehow is never the same, and motiejunas at 2 lol... A guy who plays 10 mins a game off the bench for his Euro team, and is skinnier than Brewer. Yeah we need a raw project who is 4- 5 years off.

Wall, turner, favors, wes johnson, aldrich, xavier henry.....I'm fairly confident one of these players will be a timberwolve

Foye · Post #274 » by **Foye** » Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:17 pm

cpfsf wrote:I think NBADraft's mock draft is terrible. They have us drafting Motiejunas, Turner falling to 9th with Toronto (this was before his injury btw), and Aldrich by Memphis at 7th. I think Cole Aldrich should be available at the 5th spot just because New Jersey, Memphis, and Washington won't be drafting a center any time soon.

I think Aguilar would be a decent pick in the second round. He's a 20 year old Spanish prospect we could stash overseas until we give LAC our pick. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Pablo-Aguilar-1392/

Speaking of international prospects we could pick up in the 2nd round. German Robin Benzing is also a pretty decent prospect we could pick up. I don't know if he declares but I'd be all over picking him up with a 2nd or late 1st. He's got a lot of work to do, but also nice potential.

TheProdigy · Post #275 » by **TheProdigy** » Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:28 pm

Casperkid23 wrote:I'm sorry, but how on earth did you come up with these rankings? Patterson at 19 while Varnado and Sanders are higher than him? Jerome Jordan that high? What? Explain for me please, because I'm at a loss.

Also, what's up with all the tiers?

Those rankings are based on talent and how they'd fit on the Wolves. If the rankings were made for another team they'd look completely different. As you know we have Al Jefferson and Kevin Love on our team so a 6'8 power forward like Patterson wouldn't fit at all. I like his game but he would get no playing time on this team unless there were major changes. You're probably wondering then why Favors is ranked so high. Well if we have the opportunity to get a talent like him then you make accomodations.

Varnado and Sanders are high on the list because they both provide length and defensive potential which is something that we need. Varnado is averaging over 5 bpg this year and Sanders supposedly has a 7'7 wingspan which seems realistic if you've seem him play.

The tiers represent a gap in the talent level/fit with the Wolves.

Krapinsky · Post #276 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 5:20 pm

DaKidKG wrote:
Varnado and Sanders are high on the list because they both provide length and defensive potential which is something that we need. Varnado is averaging over 5 bpg this year and Sanders supposedly has a 7'7 wingspan which seems realistic if you've seem him play.

The tiers represent a gap in the talent level/fit with the Wolves.

But what's their ceiling? Tyrus Thomas with less offense?

Look at the kid from Marshall. Hassan Whiteside. He's under the radar right now, but at 6'11" he's someone with legitimate upside.

GopherIt! · Post #277 » by **GopherIt!** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 8:53 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:I like Warren, I think he belongs in the second tier with Johnson and Aldrich. The NBA is suited for his game. He's undersized, but I wonder how his measurements compare to Gordon's and Mayo's?

Yeah, I'd like to see his measurements too. He belongs in the discussion with that second group.

Post #278 » by **revprodeji** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:06 pm

I disagree. If his measurements are not a red flag then he is in the top-group. If they are not then he is off the board. Feast or famine there. Kid has all the talent in the world for the Sg but only if he can play sg.

Unless you want him defending the pg with rubio defending the sg.

Krapinsky · Post #279 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:13 pm

revprodeji wrote:I disagree. If his measurements are not a red flag then he is in the top-group. If they are not then he is off the board. Feast or famine there. Kid has all the talent in the world for the Sg but only if he can play sg.

Unless you want him defending the pg with rubio defending the sg.

I think his measurement's are a red flag regardless, the only question is to what extent. He's 6'3" in shoes. I've heard he's got long arms, but not Eric Gordon long. I think he's maybe as tall as Gordon, but with arms like Mayo -- in the 6'6" range.

Post #280 » by **revprodeji** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:18 pm

ok, I admit I fall in love with Euro players. They are typically better coached and have been against better talent then our AAU high school students.

That being said, I mentioned Donatas Motiejunas a couple years ago here. I read that he is playing more physical. He is a legit 7ft and JonW compares him to Gasol not Bargs. I wonder if with Rambis experience with Gasol we should be keeping our eyes out here. Rambis/Kahn seem to like players that can pass and create. Having theDon and Love as our posts would give us an interesting flare.